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New iMacs from Apple in three weeks? (plus 1997 Apple-Microsoft deal explained)
Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:40 AM EST

"The latest word is that the brand new iMac will make its debut on Tuesday, August 7, just in time for production to ramp up to meet back-to-school needs, " ThinkSecret reports via PC Magazine.

"Published reports indicate Apple will include a new keyboard with the iMac, a sensible decision given the iMac's fresh aluminum enclosure," ThinkSecret reports.

"Think Secret sources have also cautiously suggested that Apple's next iLife suite may find its way onto the new iMacs, as well... Surely more by coincidence than anything else, August 7 will also mark one decade since Bill Gates, then Microsoft's CEO, took the stage at Macworld Expo Boston to announce Microsoft's renewed commitment to the Mac. That event, which many Apple watchers likened to a scene out of 1984 with the giant projection of Bill Gates appearing behind Apple CEO Steve Jobs onstage, had been attributed to reviving confidence in Apple at the time, which many had left for dead following several consecutive struggling quarters. Gates at the time also announced a $500 million investment in Apple; the stock has since appreciated roughly 20-fold," ThinkSecret reports.

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Note: Microsoft invested $150 million in Apple, not $500 million. At the time, Apple had $1.2 billion in cash on hand and a stock market value of about $3.3 billion (Apple's market value today is $121.4 billion); the investment amounted to about 4.5 percent of Apple and was largely symbolic. The $150 million was in non-voting shares and was reportedly divested by Microsoft in 2000-2001 (bad investment move to sell, MS). More importantly, Apple and Microsoft entered into cross-licensing agreements for patents (not for technology), Microsoft committed to Office for Mac for a period of five years (ended 2002, Office for Mac continues to be developed), Apple agreed to inflict Internet Explorer as the default Mac browser (long since expired, thankfully), and Microsoft paid an undisclosed amount to Apple to settle ongoing lawsuits. Because the stock did not confer voting rights, Apple maintained complete independence from Microsoft.

Macworld Expo Boston 1997 - Steve Jobs revs up the RDF and grins and bears it while explaining the Microsoft deal:


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Jul 19, 07 - 09:44 am Comment from: d_cooper

here's a glimpse at the new iMac...

http://www.dogsolitude9.com/imac/

enjoy.

Jul 19, 07 - 09:52 am Comment from: John

MDN: come on, admit it. Microsoft saved Apples bacon. S.J. Said as much recently in their joint interview.

Jul 19, 07 - 09:54 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

Hope so, my dad needs a new machine to replace his old Rev. C iMac and he's getting itchy. He almost tried to do something stupid (buy a Dell)

-c

Jul 19, 07 - 09:54 am Comment from: AP

That's a nice rendering. I remember Apple followed the design cues of the iPod to create the current look of the iMac. I can assume they would do the same with the new iMac and the iPhone. Although Multi-touch will not be coming to the new iMac.

Jul 19, 07 - 09:55 am Comment from: andy

wow nice site and mockups d_cooper

Jul 19, 07 - 09:56 am Comment from: BustingTheSkullsOfIdiots

John, please tell me based on the facts noted above how M$ "saved Apples bacon". You do know how to reason, right?

Jul 19, 07 - 09:57 am Comment from: Connor MacBook

AAPL has appreciated twentyfold in the past three or four years. And I was too dumb to get in on the action back then.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:00 am Comment from: Macromancer

I've had people argue with me breathlessly that Bill Gates owns Apple because of this event. Amazing how the uninformed can miss out on details and stories like this can become ingrained in people minds even 10 years later.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:10 am Comment from: MB

I will be first in line for a new IMac. That was a beautiful mockup, I hope the real thing looks as good.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:11 am Comment from: mike k.

jeeprs d_cooper -- if that is your site you have some rather impressive design skills.

well done

Jul 19, 07 - 10:16 am Comment from: Connor MacBook

Just broke $140. I considered buying at $7 (split-adjusted). Woe is me.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:17 am Comment from: M.X.N.T.4.1

Why is a new keyboard sensible because the thing is going to be aluminium? What are Mac Pros and their displays made of?

Jul 19, 07 - 10:22 am Comment from: d_cooper

thanks for the compliments, but it's not my site. belongs to a good friend of mine. he's the one with the impressive design skills. i just cut and paste.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:22 am Comment from: me

ARGHH, iMacs are for old ladies. In fact it's become obvious to me ove r the past months that Apple's entire product line is gay except the MacPro.

If you are as upset as I at the fact that the switch to Intel has not yielded a more affordable Core2Duo headless/desktop/tower then please go here and voice your opinion in a polite way.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html

Even if you're not frustrated personally, I'm sure you know someone who would buy a Mac if only there was an affordable headless option. They would love to us OSX but need Windows and they wouldn't buy a computer with a built-in display and integrated video.

As a long time user and stock-holder I am in the unfortunate position of potentially having to switch to XP due to Apple's/Jobs's stubborn unwillingness to fill out their product line with a reasonably priced tower. Screw iMacs and iPhones and all this iCrap. Jobs is milking this iGarbage for all it's worth.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:24 am Comment from: Hotinplaya

Whats up with all this Mac stuff??

Lets here about the iPhone

Jul 19, 07 - 10:25 am Comment from: Dave

Very nice d_cooper... I loved the President Ron Paul abolishes IRS headline... Go RON PAUL!
I am getting that iMac for my grandma.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:27 am Comment from: drew_ill

Sorry, don't see Apple releasing any new models until Leopard comes out. Once Leopard is released, you'll likely then see a new Mac product shipping with it installed. Doesn't make sense to sell a product that would need an upgrade in 3 months...

Jul 19, 07 - 10:27 am Comment from: wannabe

Argh. The black plastic part on the back of the iPhone is a compromise so that the antenna would work, not part of the designer's vision. Ive did a great job at making it look natural but it's still a wart in the design. You're not going to see it on an iMac where it's completely unnecessary.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:30 am Comment from: Twenty Benson

Great footage! Absolute classic piece of history, it becomes what it is talking about.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:31 am Comment from: iMaki

I really don't like the look of aluminum. I really hope there will be some shine white or black plastic on it. The cinema displays even have white accent; I would have to think the new iMacs would too.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:34 am Comment from: Gil

d_cooper

Should have put an iPhone right next to it.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:36 am Comment from: hotinplaya

@d_cooper

Your friend is very talented, I looked at this vidio he also did, funny stuff

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ui0-iJmjiSQ

I am not ready for a new iMac (yet) but I really would like to see a new keyboard

Jul 19, 07 - 10:45 am Comment from: M@c

@ d_cooper -

Is your friend's rendering of the new iMac based on some credible evidence, or is it his/her imagination?

Either way, very cool.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:53 am Comment from: Macaday

Was Gates put up on that big screen to show everyone that that was who they had to aim their hammer at??

Jul 19, 07 - 10:56 am Comment from: Escaport

@ M@c, Can you see how his new iMacs are Photoshoped stretched iPhones? Look at the bezel. It is just a horizontal iPhone with a modified version of the stand that the current monitors sit on.

Jul 19, 07 - 11:06 am Comment from: Stuart

More on the history at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer#1994_to_1997:_Attempts_at_reinvention

Jul 19, 07 - 11:12 am Comment from: Buster

Jobs was NOT wearing jeans.....will wonders never cease!

Jul 19, 07 - 11:14 am Comment from: Joe S.

Interesting read:

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/592FE887-5CA1-4F30-BD62-407362B533B9.html

Jul 19, 07 - 11:24 am Comment from: mugwump

Yeah, that Roughly Drafted article tells the tale of a secret $1 billion cash payout to Apple for Quicktime patents that Windows Media Player stole, and the promise by Microsoft to continue to deliver Office for mac. That's the deal that saved Apple.

Jul 19, 07 - 11:35 am Comment from: Woody

d_cooper, your friend has some serious skills. His iMac mockup is lust-inducing.

MW: Will we be seeing something that cool as soon as next month?

Jul 19, 07 - 11:41 am Comment from: R2

Wow, d_cooper that site is amazing!

Jul 19, 07 - 11:48 am Comment from: Cubert

"Sorry, don't see Apple releasing any new models until Leopard comes out. Once Leopard is released, you'll likely then see a new Mac product shipping with it installed. Doesn't make sense to sell a product that would need an upgrade in 3 months..."

It's called free upgrades for those buyers. Apple has done it in the past with other OS X releases.

I think they will release them in August because of the back-to-school buying season. September is too late. October is even worse.

Jul 19, 07 - 12:05 pm Comment from: solid

BustingSkull says: "John, please tell me based on the facts noted above how M$ "saved Apples bacon". You do know how to reason, right?"

Ironically, it was Gil Amelio who saved Apple's bacon by bringing Next and Steve Jobs back on-board, and mercifully stepping aside.

Jul 19, 07 - 12:15 pm Comment from: d_cooper

Escaport: yes, you're right, it it a stretched iPhone, but it's not done with photoshop. it's rendered from the ground up in a 3-D program called blender (with some final cut express thrown in,) as is the rest of his animation.

glad to hear you folks like it...

Jul 19, 07 - 12:18 pm Comment from: hmmm

Thanks for that link Joe S.

Its mention of Claris Works got me a little nostalgic for that old PowerPC. Amazing how many companies they've wiped from existence over the years.

I didn't think it was actually possible to hate MS Products anymore than I already do...

Jul 19, 07 - 12:25 pm Comment from: Ron Jeremy

Hmm, was that humiliating for Steve Jobs or what? I felt so embarrased for Steves sake that ..well, duh!

Steve *really* had to swallow his pride there to keep the speech fluent - but its all good tho, Apple is back stronger and more focused than ever.

R.J

Jul 19, 07 - 01:33 pm Comment from: CWEB

Maybe Apple will provide vouchers for free upgrades to Leapord with the purchase of a new iMac, taking a cue from Microsoft's marketing genius. We all know how well it worked for them and what desperate help Steven Jobbs needs when it comes to rolling-out new products. Separately, I would expect any bundled keyboard to incorporate Multi-Touch, either via a simple trackpad or another more robust way; we'll have to see what slick solution Jon Ives and the boys from FingerWorks came up with.

BTW, my misspellings and grammatical errors are intentional and hopefully serve to infuriate all of the spelling & grammar nazi's that frequent these pages...you know who you are. find a bigger bone to pick, or at least be nice about it.

Jul 19, 07 - 02:04 pm Comment from: Ryan

If I had a dollar for every time some bozo says "MS bought Apple" or "Bill Gates controls Apple now" because they heard that MS bought some Apple stock, I'd be rich.

I just hope these people aren't investing in the stock market, for their own sakes...

Jul 19, 07 - 03:21 pm Comment from: Brau

Wow! d_cooper's link looks very cool. The design is consistent with what the Ive team tends to put out and has a definite drool factor. I wouldn't be disappointed if this was the real end product. I guess if Apple were to demand it torn down, we'd know a little more.

Jul 19, 07 - 03:46 pm Comment from: Macman51

In reference to the $150 million that MS invested in Apple:

MS got caught with its hand in the cookie jar. They had hired the same Bay area coders that Apple had just subbed out work on QuickTime to. They ended up with some of Apple's code in their media player. This is the patented code that was cross licensed. Apple (and the stock buying public) needed some reassurance that MS would continue to support the platform with Office. Hence the deal. The $150 million was compensation for unlimited use of the highjacked code. Win-win. MS stays out of court, Apple gets a publicly announced five year commitment from MS to keep developing Office for Mac. Unfortunately, the public perception was either that MS "bought" Apple or that Jobs made a pact with the devil. In retrospect, it was a good deal.

Jul 19, 07 - 04:00 pm Comment from: Brau

With that 5 year deal to develop Office for Mac coming to an end (or ended?), I am very curious to see what the future will hold in this regard and if MS will try to punish Apple by no longer developing it as a Mac native product. It would be foolish not to, but I would not put it past the folks at Redmond to make Mac users shell out for Vista Premuim if they need it. Here's hoping products allowing the use of Windows apps without using Windows find their feet because right now Apple's Pages just doesn't mesh all that well and it can be a deal breaker if MSOffice is the buyer's main concern.

Jul 19, 07 - 04:01 pm Comment from: razor

steve admitting to being saved by microsoft?

right....

heres what you do.

step 1. go to your pill cabinet.
step 2. swallow pill.
step 3. watch the d5 conference again.

Jul 19, 07 - 04:11 pm Comment from: Brau

"step 3. watch the d5 conference again."

I had to laugh at the begrudging words Steve Jobs gave MS for their ability to "forge partnerships" when asked by Walt Mossberg about what they see as each other's strengths. It was a bit like asking him to put a positive spin on a band of thieves.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:27 pm Comment from: Joe S.

Love the video...reminds me of the 1984 commercial. I'm pretty sure that was what was intended by Jobs. Pure theater.

Jul 19, 07 - 10:37 pm Comment from: Joe S.

Your welcome HMMM. Plenty of interesting takes on tech on that site.

Jul 19, 07 - 11:11 pm Comment from: st1

Haha, what a lamer steve jobs is, kissing the pants of the one who saves apple at that time.. microsoft... asking 150M$ dollars, what a crap move.

I think he understood the crowds reaction on the IE shit, jobs is just a low life salesman in this movie to me... what a bad actor

Jul 20, 07 - 04:34 am Comment from: MB Guy

Video has been dugg!

http://digg.com/videos/animation/iMac_MultiTouch_Concept_Very_RAD_Fan_Made_Ad

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