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Who is surprised that the iPhone was going to be copied? The mobile phone designs has become stagnant anyway. They need a change.

By the time it's out iPhone will be on version two. The one to watch out for is Google Phone (aka gPhone - with hot spots)

That is some sincere flattery

What a crummy accent - "Nahkia", "simplar"... that, plus the usual buzz words (e.g. "elegant").
Rubbish.

Well I'm sure the new Nokia phones are running OS X.

At least make the outside look a little different...Nokia...do you have any class at all? Seems you just took apart the iPhone and copied each little part note for note. Do you have any pride at all?
Billions of dollars, and you just copy it?
Never thought I would say it, but the Zune has at least a little image of its own compared to this!!

Here come the morons with their "Apple ripped off LG first" nonsense.

i bet you can use this nokia phone with verizon, unlike att's monopolistic agreement to make it the only official carrier for the iphone

Good artists copy, Great artists steal.

So I guess Apple will actually have to do something to differentiate the iPhone? The UI (basically the iPhone's only feature) is too easy to duplicate.

So, how about unlocking the potential of the OS X that's under the hood.

Otherwise, my guess is the Nokia's and others to copy the "style" of the iPhone will be offering much more substance as well.

It's a big market. At this moment Apple is the main player with this interface.

The secret will be seeing how much more the design will advance with V2 and whether Apple will introduce other models (like they did with the iPod)...

Apple has a head start as they did with the PC GUI, let's see if they can hold it this time.

Why didn't they just show an iPhone and say, "This is what we're gonna make some day" rather than some video full of special effects?

"unlike att's monopolistic agreement"

Inigo Montoya: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

it's not an iPhone

Too expensive ..and no keyboard!

In the same page you can read this:

This was done with a REAL Nokia N95, using a Nokia SU-W8 Bluetooth Keyboard and was filmed by a Nokia N93. It was of course, done as crudely as possible (No video effects, no pre planning, no post editing, no fake nokLa, no preloaded video) just with an out of shot wireless keyboard that controls the phone.

For more details, click the link on this video's description. The same video description that's been there since this was uploaded telling explicitly this video is a spoof.

Trouble for Nokia is they are just a mobile phone maker. No wider ecosystem, no OS, just Symbian and anything else they can knock up, and of course, no innovation.

But they must take 'pride' on being able to copy at least as fast as the Chinese do..

560 Euros is $765 US. It will be interesting to see what the carriers will be willing to subsidize.

By the time Nokia's phone line hits the market, won't iPhones be even cheaper?

MDN MW: coming... not even a wet dream!

Speaking of blatant rip-offs:
http://www.engadget.com/tag/minione

How the hell did they get that touchscreen? That's got to be daylight robbery of an Apple patent!

Hmm, my first thought was, I wonder how many of Apple's patents have been violated for this.

Then MDN beats me to the punch, "It's tIme to start vigorously defending those 200+ iPhone-related patents, Apple."

With crap like this, the iPhone hackers will have Apple's legal department protecting much bigger things than people figuring out how to get a phone working on a decent wireless network.

Come on. Those were superimposed videos on top of the iPhone. None of that was real. Look closer!

Apple's 200 patents are mostly centered around the technology behind the multi-touch screen. Anybody can copy the design and they all most certaintly will.

Nokia ought to be completely ashamed of themselves. Sad thing about it is that most people won't care.

Back in january Steve Jobs said that the iPhone was years ahead of the competitors and predicted they would soon try to copy it because they had no better ideas....
Yay, who said that wasn't true and mobile phone companies were doing well and being innovative????

Touch screen is nothing new. It existed before the iPhone. What Apple patented is the multi-touch screen.

I can only see this as some competition with the iPhone and hopefully a price war which would make the iPhone price go down and the choice of other carriers.

"i bet you can use this nokia phone with verizon, unlike att's monopolistic agreement to make it the only official carrier for the iphone"
I could have sworn it was - and is - Apple who is insisting on a single carrier per market, or per model per market. I understand why more than a few people hate AT&T;, but they were the first to agree to Apple's terms - though not the first to be asked.

Dave

next year

apple will kill

Smithers... Release the Lawyers

I wonder what's going to happen when Apple enforces its patents....

when you can't think for yourself, why not let others do it for you

..not sure but isn't that about the same thing Richard and Dominic just tried to do but took a run through the woods instead. When you run people in helicopters start chasing you but if you're boldly cavalier about it then no one's really sure how far over the line you stepped so they wonder ..so Nokia is just standing there staring down at the pit bull knowing that if they start running they're going to lose some of their ass ..I think, what the f*k do I know ..the knock-offs just seem such a slimey thing to do ...slimey and dirty ...makes me want to look away ..but I can't. I have to look at the slime.

Nokia:

"My name is Inigo Montoya (a.k.a. Steve Jobs). You ripped off my iPhone. Prepare to die."

Peace.
Olmecmystic

Per Gizmodo, Nokia says its demo was strictly for the interface, and the hardware is fake.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/vaporware/nokias-future-iphone-killing-concept-like-a-fake-vaporous-picasso-294730.php

from the tech site: "Nokia presented some cool cells today and also slipped this concept video of a future iPhone-clone. Nokia has confirmed that this demo is strictly for the UI, not the device: the hardware is not real and the LCD's images are overlaid. Yes, it's not even a working prototype, as you will see after the jump."

Differentiation? I'd be willing to bet that that Nokia demo was a real bear to develop, and that developing the individual component services on a Symbian phone will likewise be a real exercise.

Apple's using the Cocoa environment, with a UI kit simple enough to use that people have already managed to figure out for themselves, without documentation, how to develop against it.

If this Nokia is coming out next year, imagine the distance Apple can put between itself and it with the powerful tools used to develop iPhone apps.

Imagine also how active a third party development community each phone would have were Apple to officially open the iPhone APIs - there'd be a hundred small shops delivering iPhone customizations for every one shop shipping Nokia customizations, just by virtue of the ease of developing iPhone apps.

Looks like it time to let go with Apple's Legal Department....

Those guys must have lots fun doing there jobs...

The only problem is that it doesn't have one of those little buttony QWERTY keyboards. Otherwise, BRILLIANT!

"The one to watch out for is Google Phone (aka gPhone - with hot spots)"

gSpots?

I wonder what One Guy from Finland thinks? Seriously, I think Apple, Google, VW, and Nokia should collaborate and conquer the world.

On an off topic, but none-the-less topical subject, at this point I am a little pissed. Apple voted for OOXML. Shame on Apple. At least IBM voted with principle.

Wow. With all the current features on the N95 on this machine. I don't think V2 of iPhone will even come close to it. Looks like a winner here for N95. I love my iPhone, but I'm dumping it if this new Nokia really comes out next year with that huge screen and all the bells and whistles Nokias are known for. Very nice.

APPLE Needs This... the iPhone is incomplete: no MMS, Video Recording, GPS, Built in IM, Video IM ... I hope companies like Nokia succeeds which will force APPLE to push even further... competition like this is good for all of us.

Nokia = Mobile phones
Ericksson ≈ Before
USA? Nokia rules and Ericsson kicks ass. Qual..kökö... well... you know...

Don´t forget the NMT,GSM and UMTS.

"It's what Nokia always has, and always will, deliver."

Always has... deliver?!

Verb tense disagreement. Their ad agency needs to learn English grammar.

NSFY
You remebered! (the quote)

Also, I don't recall anyone saying Apple couldn't sell iPhones to Nokia, and THEY sell them to everybody......

MW:far, as from likely

Looks like an iClone to me, the knockoff from China, except the iClone works

I never did care for Noka. Prepare for the interface patent wars. Apple has plenty of cash and lots of staff lawyers on crack to defend their design.

Nice take MDN, but..Apple copies the UI for Mac from Xerox, then M$ and Nokia copies Apple.

They are all derivative losers in some respect..

When you pronounce it, put the accent on the NO in nokia and then you've gotten it right. Kia means 'I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground' in sinoscandieuroasiatic jibberjabber.

The new Nokia will only play WMA files

From thei press release

Tracks are typically delivered in high quality 192Kbps audio in Windows Media Audio (WMA) format. You can easily transfer your purchased songs to your Nokia device using Windows Media Player or with the new Nokia Music PC client available later this year. The Nokia Music PC client enables reverse synchronization of playlists, ripping from a CD to your device and PC simultaneously, as well as auto-synchronization of your purchased music and direct access to the Nokia Music Store.

OK, The problem with the iPhone is that it is only 8 gig and it only works with ATT. I won't buy until it gets at least 60 gig and is with a phone company that doesn't suck. Guess I won't be getting an iPhone so back to my flip phone.