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Apr 17, 08 - 12:59 am Comment from: Jim - TIV

My son is gonna be all over this like white on rice

Well they say it's good for 3D animation and rendering... I wonder if Maya will actually work right with this card without any problems. Seems like it's been near impossible to find a video card that maya will accept and everything will just work with out limitations such as no hardware render... such a pain.

Released just in time for the 9800s, good work Apple only one generation behind.

Anyway wouldn’t a pro user want a Quadro card instead of a GeForce gaming card?

Apr 17, 08 - 02:36 am Comment from: flappo

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/geforce8800/signatures.html

seems to have worked !

Apr 17, 08 - 06:32 am Comment from: macaholic

What the heck does "white on rice" mean anyway?

like 'flies on cow-flop" I understand, but white and rice? WTF?

Apr 17, 08 - 06:50 am Comment from: Ampar

". . . but white and rice? WTF?

Yep. That's a tough one.

:-p

@jtc

Maya works (almost) fine with the basic graphic card of MacPro rev 1.
But, rejoice, that 8800 will do much better job!

I'm hoping by the time I get a mac pro autodesk will have smartened up and made a lot better support for more video cards. Sadly, I almost resulted in getting a windows PC till I can drop a few grand towards a mac pro. Though my dual G5 with 8GB ram seems to do well might just possibly be able to find a video card that will do hardware render.

@jtc...that's what happens when an awesome program is bought out by a stinker biased against Mac company AutoCad. or _Desk, whatever. Truth is, their code is older than dinosaurs and Photoshop and rewriting it for OS X would poop their party. Another giant like this will fall eventually.

You know the "White on Rice" thing always bugged me too. Some rice is brown!

I just wish they would update the driver for the original card. I got an 8800 GT with my 8 core MacPro, and now I wish I hadn't.

Whenever I use my HD video capture card as part of the desktop (Blackmagicdesign Decklink), the 8800 GT turns off Quartz Extreme in it's second monitor output. I've read other places online that they released this card with a half-baked driver. I hope they spent more time on this retro fit card.
:-(

Forgive my ignorance on this subject, but I have to ask.

Why does the first generation Mac Pro need an "upgrade kit"?

Also, with the current Mac Pro, can you upgrade to an 8800 Ultra or 9800 GX2?

Apr 17, 08 - 12:06 pm Comment from: Mac-nugget

@rdvideo
Well you know that the ATI card just got a new driver and firmware not to long ago. I think they probably will be releasing something pretty soon since more people are to stumble into problems, since they just widened their target market with this new release.

Apr 17, 08 - 12:10 pm Comment from: Mac-nugget

@BSOD, you can get 8800 for the new MacPro, but the card is different for the prior MacPro, this is what just got released. So in other words, yes new MacPro old MacPro get 8800 support, through different cards. Now I am not sure about the 9800 GX2.

@Mac-nugget

I have always assumed that the drivers for Leopard were monolithic, like the ones for Windows. If they are, then in theory, a swap to 8800 Ultra would work.

I just did some double checking on nVidia's web site and they have monolithic drivers for each series (8 and 9) on Windows (Mac drivers are not downloadable their). Given these facts, we can safely assume that 9 series cards would not work in Leopard.

8 series drivers for Windows have not been updated since December. 9 series drivers were updated April 1.

Now the other question I have is why such tight control on Mac drivers? I can only assume that it is on Apple's part to maintain system stability. While I cannot fault this logic on the lower end systems and all laptops, I do with the Mac Pro. The Mac Pro is an expensive, high end machine that should be upgradeable.

The irony of this is that (and I am speculating here, since I have not actually tried) you can get a 9800 GX2 to run on a Mac Pro running Windows or Linux, but not Leopard.

I have the early 2008 mac pro with the 8800 GT card....its been hell for me. 9 out of 10 times the computer starts up with horizontal lines
on the monitors and the computer freezes and dont boot up. When it does start up everything runs fine. I have tried everything...i have upgraded to 10.5.2...installed the graphics update....cleared PRAM....even the power management thing. None work.Has anybody else had this problem?