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Frankly my dear... I dont give a damn.

Feb 16, 09 - 10:36 am Comment from: Fergman

You mean Gable!

Feb 16, 09 - 10:37 am Comment from: Big Al

When Steve said iPhone 1.0 was 5 years ahead of everything else, he wasn't kidding.

My Phone - your information in the cloud, literally, all over the internet (taking M$ security record into account.)

Yes, MS is 2 years behind in the consumer side, but they are about 3 years ahead on the business side. I still can't read my Office docs on iPhone nor is the core email experience as good as Windows Mobile which has been around for 3 years.

Also funny how this fan site left out one of the major points of the article critical of Apple.

"But I hope that Microsoft’s openness will help force Apple and others to rethink their arguments that they need to approve every application that runs on their handsets. It’s nice to see a company that treats people who simply want to use their own phones their own way as customers, not criminals."

Rob,

You are a liar.

iPhone viewable document types: .jpg, .tiff, .gif (images); .doc and .docx (Microsoft Word); .htm and .html (web pages); .key (Keynote); .numbers (Numbers); .pages (Pages); .pdf (Preview and Adobe Acrobat); .ppt and .pptx (Microsoft PowerPoint); .txt (text); .vcf (contact information); .xls and .xlsx (Microsoft Excel)

Oh, BTW:
Quickoffice’s MobileFiles Pro lets users natively edit Microsoft Excel files on Apple iPhone

Now STFU.

"But I hope that Microsoft’s openness will help force Apple and others to rethink their arguments that they need to approve every application that runs on their handsets. It’s nice to see a company that treats people who simply want to use their own phones their own way as customers, not criminals."

Microsoft's "Openness". MICROSOFT'S OPENNESS???!!???
Jesus Christ. This IS the company that was fined millions for monopolising, the company that locks it's customers into it's franchise, the company that claims it's next OS is going to be the next best thing and is coming in just a few years (10), right?
Just out of interest, what is it that we are missing that apple is restricting? Broken, malicious and porn filled apps? Damn you Apple for working hard to keep our iPhone's running well and safe. There's hardly a lack of content- over 500,000 apps and rising, isn't it? O, right.
Treats us like criminals? Are you sh*tting me? They do all the dirty work for us, barring the bad apps from even reaching the iPhone. Tell you what, let's all bathe in the awesomeness of Windows Mobile 6.5 for a while, and see the numerous, countless and unstoppable wave of badly coded, unnecessary, system breaking programs that come from Microsoft's unwatched store. Should be fun. .

Also funny how this fan site left out one of the major points of the article critical of Apple.

Yep, it's a fansite. MACdailynews. Got a problem with it, f*ck off and stop bitching about it, all it does is draw attention to your posts and the flames you clearly blatantly crave; what other reason could their be for you to be present on a site which is based on products you clearly detest?

"Unlike the iPhone and the <i>Palm Pre, Windows Mobile does not recognize gestures with more than one finger at the same time," Hansell reports.</i>

There's the new journalistic excellence! Compare the product being reviewed to a product that does not yet even exist!
I hope newspaper owners are not wondering why readership numbers are declining.

But then again, maybe this is a sign that the tide is truly turning.
In the past, only Apple products were reviewed negatively because they didn't compare well to devices featured in the "Popular Mechanics - Devices We Might See In The Future!" issue.

Feb 16, 09 - 11:11 am Comment from: DLMeyer

Yes ... even without Copy/Paste, five years ahead. Oh, and that's while allowing them to copy the iPhone!
Oh, and, Rob? Didn't someone just announce an app that will allow you to post to Excel? It seems I just saw that ... somewhere.

Feb 16, 09 - 11:19 am Comment from: Randian

Ooooh, Rob. Seems that you just got your analytical ass handed to you.

Your retort?

@Bruno....

You are absolutely right Bruno...

@ Rob, is that you Enderle????

Anyway, total bullsh*t what you are saying. Download MobileFiles, you can view all the crappy Word and Excel docs you want.

Hey, who's using my good name?
The first Rob is me, Rob, the second Apple bashing Rob is not me, must be Enderle.

Actually WM is behind, can you view .mov on WM?

And if you look carefuly, there's no porn on iPhone, yes, Apple's app policing has it's good sides too.

Feb 16, 09 - 12:11 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

You smug MAC lemmings have no idea what 'openness' is.

Just this morning I was listening to .WMA audio on my ride into work (one of Molly Hatchet's underrated ballads, thank you for asking) while reviewing .DOC and .XLS files before the day started. I had to touch up the new .WMF version of company logo for the updated company letterhead and export an .SNP file out of Access for my boss. For a little break I switched over to a classic 'Who's the Boss' episode in beautiful .WMV format.

Microsoft is open to using all of these formats. Why isn't MAC? Because MAC is proprietary. Dorks.

Your potential. Our passion.™

Feb 16, 09 - 12:18 pm Comment from: Derek in Milan

@ Truth Teller

YES!

Feb 16, 09 - 12:19 pm Comment from: Randian

@ First Rob:

"And if you look carefuly, there's no porn on iPhone, yes, Apple's app policing has it's good sides too."

Actually, there's plenty of porn on my iPhone, photos and movies! I think you meant "on iTunes," not "on iPhone."

Feb 16, 09 - 12:47 pm Comment from: DLMeyer

Zune Tang ... love that listing! Every one of them created(?) and owned(!) by Microsoft. A little tongue-in-cheek action there, as well. "beautiful .WMV" ... R I G H T ! Might have been a tad sharper if you had listed the "proprietary" .MP3 and .AAC formats typical for the iPod.
Keep it going, buddy.

Feb 16, 09 - 12:58 pm Comment from: Wingsy

"But Microsoft and handset makers have months to try to speed up the Flash experience."

They may want to think about getting Adobe onboard for this since it is their software that is to blame.

Feb 16, 09 - 01:08 pm Comment from: Cubert

Zune Tang,
That was a good one, but please don't sully Molly Hatchet's good name or else you'll be flirtin' with disaster.

Feb 16, 09 - 01:54 pm Comment from: alansky

So why is LG planning to install Windows Mobile on 50 of their latest phones? Are they nuts???

Link to NYTimes article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/technology/17soft.html

"Just out of interest, what is it that we are missing that apple is restricting?"

I'll come up with a couple, off the top of my head...

How about a chat client that will run in the background? (Or any app that will run in the background)
How about an app that does turn-by-turn directions?

Oh, and I'll even type in your response so you don't have to.

"Well, yeah, but who cares? And besides, I'm sure Apple is going to fix those shortcomings really soon! Just you wait!"

Email seems to work in the background, phone too. Music can keep playing, oh and I can browse the web while I'm on the phone too! So I guess that's not what you meant and you were just generalizing... yeah.

I'll come up with a couple, off the top of my head...

How about a chat client that will run in the background? (Or any app that will run in the background)
How about an app that does turn-by-turn directions?

Your first point about apps running in the background; Apple applications do run in the background, such as your music playing, the phone and Safari. However, I'm sure therefore that you can see why Apple would be less than obliged to want to have other companies running riot with background processes. It opens up the iPhone to security risks which Apple deems unnescessarily risky for just a few applications; therefore it has chosen, quite within its rights, to stop apps that run in the background from being allowed on THEIR App Store. Fair enough?
Your second point presents me with more of a dilemma- personally I am unsure as to why they haven't brought out this kind of app. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, .

Oh, and I'll even type in your response so you don't have to.

"Well, yeah, but who cares? And besides, I'm sure Apple is going to fix those shortcomings really soon! Just you wait!"

....Think before you type. Read the above post.

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Windows Mobile 6.5 will support Adobe Flash and Flash video...

Most of Microsoft’s changes to the operating system are meant to update it to work better on phones that people touch with their fingers..

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Actually I'm kinda with @peter on this one, Apple was supposed to bring the notification service to us months and months ago and people developed business models around this announced product. Not only has it not shipped, but it's been disappeared, with no word about it's replacement.

it's always seemed really strange to me that the inbuilt Unix ulimits aren't simply applied to app daemons on the iphone. You can limit CPU cycles, memory, all sorts of stuff, essentially allowing app developers to go nuts with their daemons... if they are poorly written then the OS can kill them off.

that said, I also agree with Peter's auto-responder. It seems likely that these missing application categories will actually be addressed by Apple at some point in the future. The App store has been running less than a year, so it's certain that Apple is going to tweak things in response to the faults found in the existing APIs... there is certainly a lot of history to back this up (cf multiple versions of OS X in the last 10 years). Compare to MS, who has had windows mobile for, like, a bazillion years, and only just figured out that an app store is a good idea. I mean, seriously...