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That will be 'iPhreak' to you, Ms. Gray...

Feb 29, 08 - 09:33 am Comment from: ron

Danuta Gray is da nutter. Da freakin' nutter.

Feb 29, 08 - 09:34 am Comment from: aaplsaur

My iPhone feels snappier and freakier!

Feb 29, 08 - 09:34 am Comment from: HolyMackerel

Someone should tell the Rugby captain that you touch the glass side, not the silver back. Maybe it should have been embossed "Use other side" on the back.

Steve Jobs is a control freak.
Rick James was a super freak.
What kind of freak is Danuta Gray?

Feb 29, 08 - 09:37 am Comment from: IKON

that freaks me out!

thanks Amp, I didn't know what sex a Danuta was. I still don't!

Feb 29, 08 - 09:47 am Comment from: IEEE1394®

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Why don't you just allow the content to load before the ads?! Holy Jebus, dudes! You are obviously having the ads load-in before the content or everything would just load when it came in naturally. And what about that "promise" to have an iPhone version with less ads, or perhaps text-based ads?

We all know you need to make money, and that is fine, but you are the ones always talking about "what flies in the face of what consumers want...", right? Well, I have been here for a long time and am really starting to be put-off by how much bandwidth is taken-up in the name of advertising before I can even get to the content. Very frustrating.

I'm a Web application designer and developer who would be willing to work with you guys pro-bono to help you come up with a better solution, one that would still allow you to make the same money you are now but which also doesn't alienate your true customers, the readers of MDN.

Feb 29, 08 - 09:48 am Comment from: MCCFR

The problem with the printed word, whether on paper or on a blog, is that the context and subtlety of language can be lost, either unintentionally or deliberately.

And what we have here is MDN deliberately stripping context from a quote in order to generate clicks, which generate ad revenue.

Not big and not very clever, especially when there are real stories in circulation that would be of real benefit to Mac users when confronting Windows bigotry like the recent revelation that Microsoft deliberately misled consumers regarding the minimum equipment configuration for Vista. Or even the involvement of Apple's Final Cut Pro in the Coen Brother's multi Oscar-winning "No Country For Old Men".

My son posted this on boards.ie (a popular irish site) & late on yesterdays MDN, so I thought i'd post it for him on this today (he's at collage & a huge Mac fan). Apple Insider forums had many similar comments.

O2 ripping us off in the Republic of Ireland

Whether you like the iPhone or not this is simply another case of being ripped off in Ireland. In every other country the iPhone has been released, they have had unlimited data plans also usually supported by an agreement for use of wi-fi hotspots such as AT&T;'s wi-fi spots in the US and O2's own wi-fi hotspots in the UK. In the UK iPhone subcribers also have access to cloud wi-fi network which is a nationwide wi-fi provider inclusive in their O2 tariff.
What is interesting here is that the iPhone is only available in the UK on O2 and in Ireland on O2. This gives us a direct comparison between pricing policies in the UK and Ireland via the same company, for example: high tariff UK is £75 (€105) Vs €100 in Ireland. In the UK you get 3000 minutes of calls but in Ireland you get 700 minutes. In UK you get 500 texts and in Ireland you get 250. In UK you get unlimited data and wi-fi (O2 hotspots and cloud) and in Ireland you get a 1GB limit, 2c for every additional 1MB and no deal with any wi-fi hotspots. And also in Ireland, additional calls are 20c per minute which is pretty high and additional texts are 10c per text, also relatively high.
Even a tech-related article I read today states this:
"Fees will start at €45 per month under an 18-month contract; users will not however have access to unlimited data, the cap being set at 1GB for all plans. Similarly, Visual Voicemail is not being supported in the initial deployment, though it may arrive later. Both of these changes will make the Irish iPhone distinct from that in any other country."
Also, quoting the O2 website:
"Unused inclusive minutes and texts cannot be carried over to the following month." and
"*** Visual voicemail is not currently supported".

We are the only country so far with no unlimited data plan. O2 are also launching this product on St. Patrick's day March 14th. It is nice to know that O2 are sending us a happy Paddy's week gift by ripping us off.

Feb 29, 08 - 09:57 am Comment from: Zune Tang®

'Freaks' is being kind. MAC dorks are brainwashed fanboys, cultists, lemmings and sheep.

If you MAC-tards can put aside your insane prejudice and simply compare an I-Phone and, say, a Motorola Q you're talking about the same thing. Actually the Q is better because it runs Microsoft's wonderful Windows Mobile.

Your potential. Our passion.™

My bad
Post should say St. Patrick's week of March 14th.
Sentiment is the same though.

Feb 29, 08 - 10:06 am Comment from: HolyMackerel

I find it a shame that while the iPod is able to cross all racial, age and economic barriers, the iPhone's cost (purchase and plan) is causing it to become and remain (in general terms, so please don't flame me) an upper-middle class, rich white man's tool.

Where are the iPhones for 'the rest of us'…

Feb 29, 08 - 10:10 am Comment from: JAYGEE

I guess he is right.

Feb 29, 08 - 10:12 am Comment from: cptnkirk

Ireland's Population: 4,109,086
Greater Toronto's population is 4682897

The city I live in has a greater population than Ireland!!

BUT THERE'S STILL NO iPHONE IN TORONTO NOR IN CANADA WITH EARLY 10 TIMES THE POPULATION OF IRELAND!!!!

I would gladly be an iPhone freak! But I can't.

Feb 29, 08 - 10:18 am Comment from: gzero

ZuneTang,

In most parts of Europe, being called a "freak" is a positive thing.

Feb 29, 08 - 10:21 am Comment from: Zune Tang®

Ampar, how did you get my picture?

Your potential. Our passion.™

@ cptnkirk

BUT THERE'S STILL NO iPHONE IN TORONTO NOR IN CANADA WITH EARLY 10 TIMES THE POPULATION OF IRELAND!!!!

Thats because Apple's AMEA HQ is here in Ireland !!!

(actually because the European Hq is here, we're amazed Apple did this crappy deal with O2. We had hoped it would be a game changer with our rip off mobile companies.
Alas cptnkirk, you've got Rogers!)

Feb 29, 08 - 10:35 am Comment from: Ampar

Maybe Danuta is just getting her spreang on?

It's all just shades of gray anyway.

Feb 29, 08 - 10:43 am Comment from: TowerTone

lost in translation

Feb 29, 08 - 10:56 am Comment from: ron

@cptnkirk. That is - "You've been well and truly ROGERED!

Feb 29, 08 - 11:06 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Ampar

Did I miss something, or did you get baleeted?

Feb 29, 08 - 11:20 am Comment from: Ampar

C1: Yes. But it's o.k. There was a weird time stamp issue but it's all good now. On the plus side, I got to find out what later this afternoon looks like.

Feb 29, 08 - 11:22 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Ampar

Did you get any stock market charts or sports scores in the deal?

Feb 29, 08 - 11:24 am Comment from: shen

Ampar, so did you check the stock while you were there (then?!?)?

Feb 29, 08 - 11:25 am Comment from: shen

hey great minds think alike!

that has nothing to do with those two posts, but still, i have heard, great minds think alike!

Feb 29, 08 - 11:32 am Comment from: Ampar

To C1 and shen:

I wish. But Biff got away . . . again. Dammit ! ! !

Feb 29, 08 - 11:51 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ shen

No they don't!!!

Or do they?

My mind doesn't feel so great today.

Feb 29, 08 - 11:52 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Ampar

Whoa Doc, that's heavy.

Feb 29, 08 - 11:57 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

Oh yeah...

@ MAC dorks

Suck on that!!!

Feb 29, 08 - 12:01 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

Before he got away did he wash your car? I mean really wash your car. He didn't pull your leg did he?

Your potential. Our passion.™

Feb 29, 08 - 12:20 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ ZT

Are you calling me 'chicken'?

Feb 29, 08 - 12:40 pm Comment from: Ampar

C1: I think it's his density.

Feb 29, 08 - 12:50 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Ampar

Great Scott!

Feb 29, 08 - 12:52 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

And since we're on a movie quote kick, I think it should be pointed out that LEON IS GETTING LAAAAARGERRRR...

(I couldn't resist)

Feb 29, 08 - 12:52 pm Comment from: macireland

And Danuta Gray is a real freak if she thinks that we Mac lovers who have held out in pain for the iPhone introduction in Ireland are going to be ripped off like she wants.

One either side of an invisible line in Ireland separating North/South O2 charges:
North: £35 (€45) a month tariff for 600 minutes, 500 txts, unlimited data, free wifi at hotspots, visual voicemail all on a 18 month contract.
South: same person for €45 a month will get 175 minutes, 100 txts, 1gb data, no free wifi access, no visual voicemail and on a 18 month contract too......wonder why all my friends are going to unlock???

Feb 29, 08 - 01:29 pm Comment from: Denny

This is starting to "freak me out".

Feb 29, 08 - 01:36 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

"This is my happening, and it freaks me out!"

(anybody that knows that one - WITHOUT looking it up - gets a lolly)

Feb 29, 08 - 01:57 pm Comment from: Ampar

"There's juice freaks, and pill freaks, and then everybody's a freak! What you need is grass or a downer or something."

Feb 29, 08 - 02:20 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Ah ah aahhh.... "Superwoman".

You must be serious! It means NOTHING if you are not serious!

Canadians should boycott Rogers until they bring the iPhone to Canada. Don't buy any Rogers-on-Demand movies, don't subscribe to Rogers Home Phone, don't sign up for any contracts but stay month-to-month (they hate that), don't buy your next handset from Rogers, instead get an unlocked phone and use it on their network. Do not expand your services with Rogers. Don't spend any more money with them than you have to. This is the only thing that will make them pay attention.

Feb 29, 08 - 02:31 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Rogers-On-Demand? Do people call them "rods"?

"Honey, make some popcorn, I've got 2 rods downloading."

I mean that's just comedy gold.

Feb 29, 08 - 02:42 pm Comment from: Ampar

"Z-Man? There is no Z-Man, varlet. And indeed, it's not a game we play."

Feb 29, 08 - 02:47 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

"Languid Roxanne finds beauty, that delicate pinch of feminine spice with which she oftens flavors her interludes."

Feb 29, 08 - 02:49 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

BEST. MOVIE. EVER.

Feb 29, 08 - 02:56 pm Comment from: Ampar

Not LOTR?

Feb 29, 08 - 03:01 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

On my personal list? No. It's behind BTVOTD, Short Bus, Shindler's List, Mulholland Drive, Amelie, Fear and Loathing..., and Altered States.

But it's pretty close.

Feb 29, 08 - 03:06 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

It is, however, the first movie on my list that isn't about drugs, lesbians, or France.

I trust my Republican colleagues would approve.

Feb 29, 08 - 03:21 pm Comment from: Ampar

Love those gay, French addicts. THAT'S a party.

Feb 29, 08 - 03:39 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Mot.

Feb 29, 08 - 07:28 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

À votre mère.

Votre potentiel. Notre passion.™