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Orange denies paying people to line up for Apple iPhone launch in Poland
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 02:07 PM EST

"Newswires have been buzzing with reports that Apple's 3G iPhones might not be selling as briskly in Poland as they are in the U.S., noting that the company's telecom partner in the country, Orange, has hired people to stand outside stores and create phony lines. A juicy story, except for one thing: Orange says it isn't true," Beth Snyder Bulik reports for AdAge.

"An Orange official wrote in an e-mail response to queries from Ad Age today that this was not the case, and included a statement 'in response to the rumors in the Polish press,'" Snyder Bulik reports. "'As part of the excitement around the launch of the iPhone, some of our team have been joining customers outside our shops. Their aim is to welcome people to the Orange shop, share in their excitement and give information about Orange tariffs,' wrote a spokeswoman from parent France Telecom Group, which owns the Orange brand."

Snyder Bulik reports, "She added that while the company does not disclose figures, 'sales are strong and we are happy.'"

Full article here.

[Attribution: MacBlogz. Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader "Aviv" for the heads up.]

MacDailyNews Take: You mean that everything we read from The Associated Press (and everywhere else) might not contain total (or sometimes even a kernel of) truth? Say it isn't so!

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Aug 27, 08 - 01:15 pm Comment from: x

Didn't buy into the bullshit in the first place.

The media is a corrupt pile of shit, especially the liberal lefty loons, led by asshat NBC.

Aug 27, 08 - 01:16 pm Comment from: R2

Nice job, Orange. It's only been what, a week?

Aug 27, 08 - 01:18 pm Comment from: LastOneStanding

"'As part of the excitement around the launch of the iPhone, some of our team have been joining customers outside our shops. Their aim is to welcome people to the Orange shop, share in their excitement and give information about Orange tariffs"

If the team members were on the clock, then Orange did pay people to stand in line.

Aug 27, 08 - 01:40 pm Comment from: Anonymous©

Standing in line is far different than welcoming people, sharing in their excitement and giving information about tariffs. Maybe their was a Polish translation error somewhere?

Aug 27, 08 - 01:42 pm Comment from: Anonymous©

See! My Polish translation machine gave me "their" when it should have been "there".

Aug 27, 08 - 01:43 pm Comment from: y

"especially the liberal lefty loons"

Your anger is the poison that will eventually choke you to death.

Aug 27, 08 - 01:44 pm Comment from: Nutcracker

Rules for when caught doing something naughty:

#1 -- Deny it

If accuser claims they saw you doing it, go to rule #2:

#2 -- See rule #1

Periodically respond to their accusations with the following phrase: 'What?' or 'Huh?' or 'sales are strong and we are happy.'

Rinse & repeat until the accuser walks away, mumbling to themselves.

Remember, plausible deniability is the key. Be sure to work on your "This is my bewildered look", look...

It has worked for others, it can work for you too. raspberry

Aug 27, 08 - 01:45 pm Comment from: Passerby

"Stand in line" "Work the line" Different. You need a pre-existing line to work it.

"In Poland, people are getting paid to line up," Chris Borowski reports for Reuters."'We have these fake queues at front of 20 stores around the country to drum up interest in the iPhone,' a spokesman said."

Borowski continues, "As part of a marketing campaign ahead of the iPhone's Friday launch in Poland, the country's largest mobile operator Orange is paying dozens of actors to stand in queues."

These claims are not equivalent to paid Orange employees "joining customers outside our shops. […T]o welcome people to the Orange shop, share in their excitement and give information about Orange tariffs."

If Orange's current claims are correct, then the original article cannot be defended as accurate simply because it happened to also use the words Orange, Poland, pay, line, Apple, and iPhone.

Aug 27, 08 - 01:49 pm Comment from: AppleJack

If you've ever been to an Apple opening, store or product, you'll remember that staff, in their tee shirts, come out and greet, and cheer on, the people in line. That's usually anywhere from 10 to 40 employees, but they are all in uniform. Sounds like there was a little international FUD. . . . Did the story start with the BBC?

Aug 27, 08 - 01:49 pm Comment from: Nutcracker

Passerby...

It depends on what the definition of "is" is....

wink

Aug 27, 08 - 01:51 pm Comment from: Passerby

Nutcracker,

Everyone knows that. The definition of "is" is "is not".

Aug 27, 08 - 02:05 pm Comment from: lurker

It took a week to find the people who paid people to stand in line and pay them to deny that they paid anyone. Oh the tangled web …

Aug 27, 08 - 02:10 pm Comment from: Passerby

Or not.



See, that was supposed to be really clever, but MDN gave me nearly 20 minutes of "cannot accept your post at this time." :(

Aug 27, 08 - 02:41 pm Comment from: ron

It is Poland after all!

Aug 27, 08 - 03:22 pm Comment from: JohnLee

x - "The media is a corrupt pile of shit, especially the liberal lefty loons, led by asshat NBC."

As opposed to the lying clowns on Fox. You're an idiot.

Aug 27, 08 - 06:26 pm Comment from: AlanAudio

When this story broke on Aug 21, I posted the following comment on this site -

"Reuters have something of a track record for making up stories, they've also done it with Apple stories before now.

It will be interesting to see if this story holds up to scrutiny."

Aug 27, 08 - 06:39 pm Comment from: Mac User since 1984

Apple stores in the US sent their employees out to work the lines as well, mainly to tell people what they needed to have in order to actually get their hands on a 3G, to pick up trash and to suppress potential riots over the 7 hour plus waits that people endured on day one. (Don't get worked up. I waited 7 hours and have no regrets.)

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