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That's insanely expensive! here in sweden you can get 8Gb for about 400$dollars and that's including our communistic 25% sales tax

Jun 11, 09 - 12:27 pm Comment from: MrScrith

@emil

Is that actually for DDR3 1066MHz laptop memory? Or is that standard computer memory sticks? Maybe a lower memory spec (DDR2, lower frequency)? It's something you have to watch, there are a ton of different memory chips out there once you factor in form factor (laptop vs desktop), frequency, and standard, etc... it isn't easy...

Jun 11, 09 - 01:45 pm Comment from: qka

@ emil

But you benefit from your communistic, socialized medicine, etc.

Win some, lose some.

Crucial 8GB kit(DDR3 PC3-8500) for Mac pro=$959

Google search for 8GB PC3-8500 shows prices from $589 to $933.

Seems OWC is right in the normal range-8GB of DDR3 memory for either laptop or desktop is expensive now.

http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010205714.aspx
Currently you have to pay 7,90 swedish kr for 1 us dollar.

2x 1250/7,9 = 316,45 $us for 2x4Gb

@qka, healthcare in sweden is a joke even though we pay 30+% income tax and then 25% sales tax.

I've ordered a 2.66GHz 15" mbp but I think i'll spend some money on an SSD instead of more RAM

emil,

Look at the specs carefully. It looks like from the part number that the item you linked to is for 2x2gb memory modules. If you bought 2 of those, you would end up with 4 pieces of 2gb modules. That same item is about $125 in the US. The price of DDR3 skyrockets at 4gb modules.

Jun 11, 09 - 04:49 pm Comment from: theloniousMac

@qka

And yet we get a large number of wealthy Swedes taking "Health Care Vacations" in the U.S. Come to the United States, purchase decent health care, avoid the socialized medicine of home, and visit Disneyland.

We just brought my cousin to America to have her baby. She's full of horror stories about people being tossed out of the hospitals just a few hours after giving birth.

I'm not saying that all people shouldn't have access to medical care, however it's very clear from the never ending stories from countries like Canada, Sweden, and Great Britain that socialized medicine only seems to lower the quality of health care for everyone.

Even here in the United States where a system just to take care of our Veterans is in place, the quality they receive is quite possibly the worst in the western world.

Once the government is involved, things get worse, never better.

thelonius, you're political/economic understanding has always been moronic, but, nevertheless, your illogic continues to amaze me.

You have seen rich people from around the world take "Health Care Vacations" in the U.S.? Well, WOO-FRIGGIN-HOO!! What does that prove?! That, "socialized medicine . . . lower[s] the quality of health care for everyone", as you say? I think not- there's not enough evidence in your argument to justify your conclusion.

Let me provide you some counter evidence: I, personally live in Montana, and yet I have traveled across this country, to Chicago, and to the Mayo Clinic in Rochester MN, to get medical help. Now, was this travel caused by socialized medicine here in Montana? Nope, the doctors in Montana still have big homes and nice cars, they're just not as good as the best damn doctors in the world, hence, I decided to travel.

Another counter to your international travel argument: How many Americans do you think would drive across our northern border if they could get Canadian healthcare? How many free nations that have passed nationalized healthcare have tried it out, and, post-experience, voted to go back to the "freedom" they had before? HAVE ANY? I wonder why the hell not?

I could go on and on- hell, I even have more/better arguments, but I think I'll end it, I'm sick of your spittle. "Once the government gets involved . . . ", ack!

" How many free nations that have passed nationalized healthcare have tried it out, and, post-experience, voted to go back to the "freedom" they had before? HAVE ANY? I wonder why the hell not? "

Uh, vacuum brain, it's called TYRANNY. The proper question would be, "how many would go back if the could?"

There are MANY instances of folks driving across the border FROM Canada to the US to get care that they cannot get, or must wait for for ages in Canada.

Once government gets involved, it ruins everything. It's a fact. And it's sad... like you.

Jul 19, 09 - 01:31 pm Comment from: kne0

Socialized medicine historically is an abysmal failure.
Waiting in "cue" for inferior medical attention is needless to say a ridicules option. I spend a considerable amount of time in Scandinavian countries and know first hand how poor their medical system really is. I also am aware of the games citizens of these countries play to get their country to pay for medical attention in the United States.

The proposed changes in U.S. health care will NEVER resemble what's offered in these countries.

Though not a fan of "Government Intervention", the wolfs have been in charge of the hen house long enough.