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Always fun to watch tap dancing weasels.

It looks like the PC (!) guys just walked in and figured it out.

I love how journalists conclude that since Apple has not said anything about Palm in particular (or any company in particular) then Apple must be intending to sue Palm.

How is Apple saying they will not stand for any theft of their intellectual property "mixed signals?" Because they haven't named any specific company? That's a pretty big stretch to go for "mixed signals."

It looks like the APPLE guys just walked in and figured it out.

Does anyone else have problems trying to get pages to load on this damn site. I'm using Safari on a mac so Im sure its been tested on this. Too many ads. Rant over.

Again, Apple has patent applications filed for multi-touch on mobile devices but Apple has not been granted a multi-touch patent from my research. If any of you have found a multi-touch patent owned granted in any country to Apple, list it here.

I'm rooting for Palm ... competition is good!

MDN readers are rebelling!

I think it's great that it's taken the Palm Pre to finally call MDN out on their BS. MDN, just realize that the Pre is just as good as the iPhone, and even better in some areas (yes, the iPhone is equally better in other areas). It's going to be OK!

Dude, seriously?

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u;=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=multi-touch&s2=multitouch&OS=multi-touch+AND+multitouch&RS=multi-touch+AND+multitouch

I guess the 30 seconds it took me to find on Google was too long for your "research".

Think again MDN. I sware to gawd you act like a childish fanboi. I only come here now to be entertained by you. Is MDN an entire team of fanbois by the way?
Anyways, the validity of the multi-touch patent owned by Apple is INDEED in question. The technology they BOUGHT from the fingerworks owners (Wayne Westerman and John Elias) may not have been theirs in the first place. The University of Delware may be the true owners of the multi-touch technology.
At this point I would bet a dollar that Apple does not DARE try to sue palm. Unlike Google, Palm doesn't owe SQUAT to Apple.

Palm: "Yo Apple, bring ittttttt!" "Yeah, thats right!" "Booyaaaa!"

LOL! I can see the guys at MDN stewing in their own juices! hahaha

Don't like Palm. Hope apple sues the sh*t out of them, so that they realise that they're don't rule the industry anymore.
End of.

It looks like what Apple thought was a 5 year lead in smartphone technology has been whittled down to only a 2 year lead. If they want to stay ahead of the game the only way they can do it is the way they have always done it before.........COME OUT WITH SOMETHING ORIGINAL!
This suing other companies for crap is how the average company operates. It should not be how Apple operates! I'm not saying that if someone has truly stolen their stuff that they should not sue. But its just that in this particular situation the legs on which their case stands on is kinda flimsy.

Apple needs to concentrate on their upcoming products and to make sure that they are better and rely on more technology that is developed in house as opposed to patents that they buy.

Feb 11, 09 - 06:14 pm Comment from: alansky

I would say that the signals Apple is sending are not mixed at all. On the contrary, Tim Cook is sending a message that is crystal clear. But that message has nothing specifically to do with the Pre (what a stupid name!), which isn't even out yet. It is simply a warning to the entire mobile phone industry that Apple will aggressively defend its intellectual property. And this much, at least, should be crystal clear to any "analyst" who made it past the third grade.

P.S. to @Olternaut: You're an idiot. STFU!

P.S. to @Jordan: The Pre hasn't even been released yet. You're talking nonsense.

Feb 11, 09 - 06:16 pm Comment from: alansky

"Don't like Palm. Hope apple sues the sh*t out of them..." —Bruno

Why are all the twisted f**ks coming to this website?

Feb 11, 09 - 06:37 pm Comment from: nekogami13

Didn't Palm hire a bunch of Apple iPhone programmers?
Now suddenly Palm has innovated something, when they have been stagnant for so many years.

Seems kind of fishy to me.

Feb 11, 09 - 07:11 pm Comment from: kevt

"Palm doesn't expect there to be any disputes with Apple over patents for multi-touch technology in webOS". I'm sure they don't. They have violated apple's patents, but they also know the iphone violates their's.

@PS - I too have occasional problem using MDN pages, Safari OS X Leopard.

Feb 11, 09 - 07:16 pm Comment from: bjh

I hope for Ed Colligan's sake that he is familiar with the provisions of Sarbanes-Oxley. He needs to be damn sure that there are no grounds for Apple to sue. If not, he is opening himself up to a slew of lawsuits from shareholders, as well as making himself liable for civil penalties.
had he kept his mouth shut, he could have claimed no particular knowledge. By making this proactive statement, he is effectively claiming he has considered the situation and has grounds for his belief.
Better get yourself a good lawyer, Ed.

MDN must be getting some traction and. More and more trolls are showing up here including some of the better (more subtle ones) and some who just try to drag down the tone in an effort to scare honest new visitors into not returning.

Feb 11, 09 - 08:57 pm Comment from: ken1w

> PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in.

The "PC" guys did just walk in and figure it out, because they were NOT constrained and limited by the existing mobile phone industry mentality. They actually did not want to "figure out" what the industry was doing and copy it; they wanted to "think different" and create a product that no one else can match.

Of course, if the "PC guys" are Dell, that statement would be absolutely true.

....ooops...
meant to say "MDN must be getting some traction and more eyeballs"
Apologies

If Palm has infringed upon Apple's patents, they should be sued for it. Why this has to be a religious war is beyond me.

I think what palm is saying that maybe they are infringing on apple patents, but apple is also infringing on palm'm patents (apperently thay have more than 1500 of those). So the end result will probably be that nobody gets sued. Everybody would get hurt.

@alansky

No you shut the hell up! Why don't you research more about mult-touch and the original inventors apple fanboi! Your the blasted idiot!
I hope to God that apple sues Palm so Apple's patent on multi-touch gets ruled to be invalid. Then I want to see you talk alansky.
I don't care about Apple or Palm. I care about what is fair, right and true. And right now I believe Apple is in the wrong because their multi-touch patent is invalid.

@Ako

Ultimately I think you are correct. There will be no suit.

Feb 12, 09 - 07:34 pm Comment from: alansky

@Otternaut:

Actually, there's no need for anyone else to point out that you're an idiot because you do such a great job of proving it yourself!

@alansky

I wish I could take pleasure in crushing your apple fantasies today but I can't. Something more important has come up and I can't think of any witty comebacks at the moment.
Enjoy your day in the sun......for now.