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Pioneer Press: Windows Vista shows ‘Apple is an innovation engine; Microsoft, not so much’
Monday, January 29, 2007 - 12:14 PM EST

"I praise Microsoft's new Windows Vista operating system, and I also curse it," Julio Ojeda-Zapata reports for The St. Paul Pioneer Press.

"Vista certainly is pretty. PC users long used to the dowdy Windows XP will do a double take at Vista's translucent images and groovy 3D effects. Vista also is crammed with powerful, useful new features, like lightning-fast file searching, photo organizing and movie-DVD burning," Ojeda-Zapata reports.

"But after waiting five years — as in half a decade — for this thing, I think I should get something revolutionary, a PC operating system so astonishing it makes the competition look laughably primitive. The almighty Microsoft made this, right? So Vista — being released to consumers Tuesday — has to be jaw-droppingly superior, right? Well, it's not. Vista hardly rocked my world during weeks of testing. It's a fine Windows upgrade, but it's also a shameless rip-off (and not quite the equal) of another major operating system, Apple Computer's Mac OS X," Ojeda-Zapata reports.

Ojeda-Zapata asks, "That begs the question: Why not just use OS X?"

"Those upgrading from XP likely will have to get a new computer anyway because Vista doesn't work properly on most older PCs. So, instead of purchasing a Windows PC, they could — and typically should — get an Apple Macintosh computer running OS X," Ojeda-Zapata reports. "Apple is about to release an OS X upgrade, nicknamed 'Leopard,' that will make Vista look archaic... It's also important to note that Apple has offered OS X upgrades at roughly yearly intervals during the half-decade that Microsoft has labored on Vista. Apple is an innovation engine; Microsoft, not so much."

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Jan 29, 07 - 12:20 pm Comment from: S. Ballmer

Looks like I'll be needing to use Vista to order some more chairs online...

Jan 29, 07 - 12:21 pm Comment from: CG5Addict

Hear,hear! Waste half a decade just to look like a mac? Just get a Mac! smile

Jan 29, 07 - 12:23 pm Comment from: Bill Gates\' Legacy

And yaay, he looked on what he had created, and he called it . . . subpar.

Jan 29, 07 - 12:24 pm Comment from: The MacDaddy-Oh!

"Apple is an innovation engine; Microsoft, not so much.

He should've wrote:
Apple is an innovation engine; Microsoft, not at all - or does a cheap, copy engine account for anything?"

Jan 29, 07 - 12:24 pm Comment from: Jim - the independent voter

"Zune Tang, paging Zune Tang, please come to the white courtesy phone..."

Jan 29, 07 - 12:24 pm Comment from: Petersen

I was once an engine.

Jan 29, 07 - 12:25 pm Comment from: Ballmers Ball Bag

Colts 31, Bears 17

You heard it here first.

Jan 29, 07 - 12:29 pm Comment from: Triumph the Insult Comic Dog

You know, this reminds me of that bit I did on Conan with all those Star Wars nerds. You know de one, where I got Spock to come out at the end and give them all de finger.

Yeh-heh-hehesssssssss . . .

Except in this case, he\'d be giving de finger to all the pathetic losers who buy Vista.

Hey, I keed. I keed because they\'re lame.

Jan 29, 07 - 12:29 pm Comment from: Ragu

The Truth shall set you Free!

Jan 29, 07 - 12:32 pm Comment from: Oh Danny Boy

first post - from the desert

Jan 29, 07 - 12:33 pm Comment from: M.A.D.

Bears 27
Colts 21

Ballmer is always wrong!

Jan 29, 07 - 12:36 pm Comment from: jay

I agree with the article 100%, but does anyone notice the similarity to what MDN has written 100 times before? When the mainstream press starts sounding like MDN, you have to realize that civilization as we've known it is over.

Jan 29, 07 - 12:45 pm Comment from: ron

"Apple is an innovation engine; Microsoft, not so much.

He should've wrote:
Apple is an innovation engine; Microsoft, not at all - or does a cheap, copy engine account for anything?"


How about, "He should have written?"

Word police.

Jan 29, 07 - 12:56 pm Comment from: Zune Tang

I've said it before. Vista supports Zune. OS X does not.

The two OS's are otherwise virtually equal.

Zune tips the scales.

Soon everyone will realize this.


Welcome to my social.

Jan 29, 07 - 12:59 pm Comment from: pr

Microsoft is beholden to giant corporations and many other tentacles they have deployed. They CAN'T innovate much without completely BREAKING the connection they have with a huge community of users, developers and more importantly sales organizations. Apple has more flexibility here but truthfully Apple faced similar challenges in the past and powered right through them. From the 68000 series chips to PPC to intel, from OS 9 to OS X, and several other changes less visible or at least less well known. It's called Creative Destruction and nobody does it better than Steve Jobs.

well worth reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_destruction

Jan 29, 07 - 12:59 pm Comment from: Cubert

No more yearly upgrades of OS X for Apple. It seems they are getting onto an every two year cycle.

10.5 -> Spring 2007
10.6 (Lion?) -> Spring 2009(?)
OS 11(?) -> Spring 2011 (?)

OS 11 in 2011? That would be nice.

"But our OS goes to 11."

Jan 29, 07 - 01:10 pm Comment from: The Unreal Steve Ballmer

Hey, get this quote to advertising - PRONTO!

Windows™ Vista®: ... a PC operating system so astonishing it makes the competition look laughably primitive. - Julio Ojeda-Zapata, The St. Paul Pioneer Press

Jan 29, 07 - 01:12 pm Comment from: john

grin Apple is an innovation engine; Microsoft, not so much."
He's got that right!

Jan 29, 07 - 01:14 pm Comment from: pr

Cubert,
They already used Lion...it was one of the earliest iterations of OS X back in 2001...pre-jaguar...
but I suppose they could bring it back since it did not get much play at the time.

Apple also announced a while back that they would no longer be so MacWorld dependent in terms of OS updates and were intentionally slowing down the update schedule (many people found the pace a bit too breathless). You may be right however about the timing of OS XI

Jan 29, 07 - 01:17 pm Comment from: drew_ill

@ Zune Tang

They made the Zune in brown for a reason...big piece of poo that looks great flushed down a toilet...

Welcome to my morning ritual...

Jan 29, 07 - 01:18 pm Comment from: Joe Blow

I have read countless articles that claim Vista is not really too great. Many compare it to OS X and point out that Vista is much the lesser of the two. I have not found a single article so far that compares Vista to OS X and says Vista is much better, somewhat better or even almost as good as OS X. At best, they just say that Vista is better than XP. wow (lower case intended).

Jan 29, 07 - 01:18 pm Comment from: drew_ill

I meant, Welcome to my hershey squirt...

Jan 29, 07 - 01:19 pm Comment from: petervrdk

anyone seen any line-up of windows-vista-fans eagerly waiting for the big event tomorrow - camping out in front of the stores???

grin

Jan 29, 07 - 01:23 pm Comment from: drew_ill

@ Joe Blow

"I have not found a single article so far that compares Vista to OS X and says Vista is much better, somewhat better or even almost as good as OS X."

That's because Dvorak hasn't gotten around to it yet. He's too busy buying Hawaiian shirts online...

Jan 29, 07 - 01:28 pm Comment from: ibookfast

pr.... just to set the record straight... from Wikipedia:
"Mac OS X versions are named after big cats. Prior to its release, version 10.0 was code named "Cheetah" internally at Apple, and version 10.1 was code named internally as "Puma". After the immense buzz surrounding version 10.2, codenamed "Jaguar", Apple's product marketing began openly using the code name to promote the operating system. 10.3 was similarly marketed as "Panther". Version 10.4 is marketed as "Tiger". "Leopard" has been announced as the name for the next release of the operating system, version 10.5. It could be noted that while "Panther", "Tiger" and "Leopard" are registered as trademarks of Apple, "Cheetah", "Puma" and "Jaguar" have never been registered. Apple has also registered "Lynx" and "Cougar" as trademarks.[18]

Looks like Lion is still available.

mw:clearly

Jan 29, 07 - 01:30 pm Comment from: macaholic

Apple is an innovation engine, Microsoft is a photocopier that is low on toner!

Jan 29, 07 - 01:31 pm Comment from: Yours Smugly

pr:
"They already used Lion...it was one of the earliest iterations of OS X back in 2001...pre-jaguar..."

Huh? Pre-Jaguar OS X's were codenamed Puma and Cheetah. Lion hasn't been used yet. At least not prominently.

Jan 29, 07 - 01:36 pm Comment from: macaholic

I am waiting for OS X Clouded Snow Lepoard, or maybe Ocelot

Jan 29, 07 - 01:37 pm Comment from: Rainy Day

“Apple is an innovation engine; Microsoft, not so much.”

“Not so much,” as in “Not at all.”

Jan 29, 07 - 01:50 pm Comment from: Unsquirted

Not to be too catty but, you don't want people saying, "I think you're Lion" about the Mac OS. There's too much denial going on now.

" . . . you have to realize that civilization as we've known it is over."

Dr. Peter Venkman: "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria."

Jan 29, 07 - 01:59 pm Comment from: spyinthesky

It must be just so depresssing for the developers (or should I say copiers) to have worked so hard to get almost zero praise, a bit like inventing the wheel a century or so after someone else made it de rigeur. Worse still, just imagine the responce they must be getting from Steve Bullshit himself over the protracted and rather underwhelming results of their efforts. Hey guys there are better places to work you know, if you truly are up to it of course.

Jan 29, 07 - 02:05 pm Comment from: Too Funny

Under CNET's article on "Your complete guide to Windows Vista", the Mac Mini Core Duo is shown as one of the Windows Vista-ready desktops. Too funny.

Jan 29, 07 - 03:48 pm Comment from: Dan The Man

I like ocelots an awful lot.

This guy forgot to mention Windows on a Mac...flame him, FLAME HIM!!!!

Jan 29, 07 - 04:49 pm Comment from: Cubert

Thank you iBookfast and YoursSmuggly! You saved me from hitting up Wikipedia.

Jan 29, 07 - 04:55 pm Comment from: Unsquirted

Apple is an innovation engine; Microsoft is a 1970 Chevy Nova engine.

Jan 29, 07 - 07:16 pm Comment from: Irish Dude

Jay: I was thinking that was rather humourous myself actually. wink

Jan 29, 07 - 08:16 pm Comment from: Stab the Man (the surreal one)

I have to say that Apple has done a wonderful job of switching the tables on Microsoft. Now they are the niche company, relegated to the mundane office spaces of America. Macs are everything else. Wonderful job the marketers at Apple are doing. And I've waited years to be able to say that.

Jan 29, 07 - 08:37 pm Comment from: Cubert

And the first, Stab the Man.

Sounds true to me.

Jan 29, 07 - 08:47 pm Comment from: Less is More

Wonder what's on the pipeline for OS XI</i>...?

Jan 29, 07 - 10:52 pm Comment from: SKY LARK

Dan The Man

I thought that was illegal in most States.

and i ain't talk'n about flaming.


I tell ya, those MDN folks are wacky, the Magic word is "behind" .............

Jan 29, 07 - 10:55 pm Comment from: Crabs

Just a quick comment on OS XI. I can't remember where I heard it, so don't go screaming at me for sources, but I read somewhere that when asked when OS would go to 11, he said something to the effect of possibly never, maybe going to OS X 11.0, but OS X becoming the name of the operating system, instead of Mac OS. kinda seems possible with the fact that on the iPhone, they dropped Mac out of the operating system name.

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