MacDailyNews - Where Mac news comes first

The "BlackBerry nuts" are not unlike those embed into the Microsoft Windows and Vista only world. Facts and reality have nothing to do with way they believe that Mac with OS X can't compete with their PC. And as soon as they reboot or rebuild their PC they will prove it to you.

Dec 04, 08 - 04:29 pm Comment from: Cubert

At least just about every Mac user out there can say they have used Winblows and, therefore, are informed decision makers. The same cannot be said of many of the people who knock Apple products.

Dec 04, 08 - 04:31 pm Comment from: Willie G

I will say that I take a little satisfaction in RIM's recent pounding, but I do hope that it leads to them getting over their misplaced superiority complex, and drives them to actually be competitive.

As much as I love my iPhone, Apple needs stiff competition to keep from loosing its motivation to innovate.

@Willie G

“LOSE.” The opposite of “WIN” or “GAIN” is “LOSE,” for Pete’s sake. “LOOSE” is the opposite of “TIGHT.”
Every idiot who makes this mistake should be put up against the nearest wall and shot immediately. It’s not a typo; it’s viral dumbassery.

@doc

Agreed. Some people are dumb.

Dec 04, 08 - 04:41 pm Comment from: Superior Being

"Apple needs stiff competition?"

You mean, like with iPod+iTunes?

The iPhone itself was produced by Apple in the absence of competition; they weren't even in the market when they created it.

Apple is driven from within, not by a bunch of hopelessly outclassed dopes up in Waterloo, Redmond, over in Japan, Finland, or anywhere else on the planet.

Dec 04, 08 - 04:47 pm Comment from: ron

"There’s an even nastier one: the BlackBerry nuts."

SB, the Blackberry pits. They are the pits.

Dec 04, 08 - 04:49 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

RIM, like Microsoft, Palm and "fill in the blank" sat on their earlier success and failed to innovate, failed to create a truly next generation platform.

Apple's iPhone completely changed and expanded the "smartphone" concept as it's literally a pocket/handheld computer platform, in a way that Palm or Microsoft WinCE (or whatever name it is) failed to EVER become.

The iPhone OS and interface are years a head of anything else out there. Every product that has appeared to "answer" the iPhone has ended up being poorly thought out, designed and implemented. It's not just about putting pretty colors into the interface (like Windows) or adding a "touch-screen". There's so much more to it. Something that consumers get, but the phone makers clearly cannot even conceive of, never mind reproduce.

Apple was extremely smart to patent the bejeezus out of the iPhone from the ground up. Apple doesn't have a John Sculley to give away the royal treasure to Apple's enemies this time around, either.

Apple rules, period!!!

Dec 04, 08 - 04:52 pm Comment from: informed

MDN Writes: "CrackBerry nuts really need to relax, leave respected reviewers alone..."

Ya gotta love the double standard to which MDN remains oblivious.

MDN turns on "respected reviewers" at a moments notice when they say anything remotely negative about MDN's products. I still smile as I recall all the fanboy crap MDN spewed when Apple's infamous "home stereo reinvented™" was universally panned as overpriced and under-featured.

Can anyone say "hypocrite?"

Since when has Apple ever not innovated? I don't think that it is competition that drives them - I think that they think a little differently.

Dec 04, 08 - 04:55 pm Comment from: informed

Err, meant to type "MDN's *pet* products."

The Blackberry nuts are all part of the Anti-Apple-Taliban...

Pathetic.

Dec 04, 08 - 05:04 pm Comment from: Cubert

@informed,

See my comment from earlier.

Ironic handle, too.

Oh my, so Blackberry fans are even nastier than Mac fans.

On MDN you get called names and you intelligence questioned if you criticize Apple, you are a whiner if you want an enhancement, and are flamed for typos and errors in grammar.

Remind me to stay away form BDN, if there is such a thing.

Dec 04, 08 - 05:17 pm Comment from: cptnkirk

My favourite line: "The bottom line: BlackBerry has created the Zune of touchscreen phones.”

LOLOLOLOLOL!

@Informed, I was going to say the same thing. Can MDN iCal itself?

Don't know why MDN keep quoting David Pogue like he's some kind of objective commentator. He's got his head so far up Steve Jobs ass he's doing his talking for him.

@doc:

Thank you! That drives me nuts in the same way as the people that use apostrophes to pluralize words. Take a farking English class!

Dec 04, 08 - 05:49 pm Comment from: thethirdshoe

Reading the comments on The New York Times site for his story, one person mentions that you can now update the BlackBerry software from the shipping V.65 to V.75.

It does not have V1.0 software???
Seems people got sucked into buying beta version software.

Dec 04, 08 - 05:53 pm Comment from: ron

Jimithy, check doc again. I believe he used the apostrophe correctly. For Pete's sake. Meaning - for Pete his sake. Be nice!

Dec 04, 08 - 05:56 pm Comment from: ron

Also - it's not a typo, is correct. Go to the back of the class Jimithy and put on that pointed hat with a big 'D' on.

@doc: Whoose Pete?

seriously, agree with you that the use of "loose' for "lose" is rampant on the internet. you could just about find that mistake on any blog.

Dec 04, 08 - 06:05 pm Comment from: ken1w

"David Pogue" is a RESPECTED reviewer for MDN and others (including me) because he is well-informed about Apple products. He obviously reviews other tech products, but he generally does not make inaccurate statements (about Apple stuff) out of ignorance OR lack of attention to detail OR plain laziness to "look it up." He also does not spin the facts (or lie through omission) to suit whoever is writing his paycheck.

I don't know about his depth of knowledge for RIM products, but it is not a double-standard for an editorial (as in expressing a specific opinion) web site like MDN to "respect" some reviewers and call others idiots. If you want your news straight, without the editorial content, there are plenty of Apple news aggregation web sites that just link to the news item.

Personally, I like MDN more because they express an opinion, whether you agree with it or not. I tend to agree...

Ronald, I have read plenty of articles by David Pogue calling out Apple for shortcomings. While he has been a steadfast supporter of Apple over the years, what separates David from his contemporaries is not just his writing talent, but his insight. I've met David several times, sat in on seminars that he's conducted, read countless books and articles by him. David is a bright guy, and takes time to really understand his subject matter, instead of the drive-by garbage that passes as articles today. But if David sees a flaw, he'll cite it. He is a gentleman, and typically dishes out criticism politely. But his manner of doing so gets heard in Cupertino. That is why he is both trusted and respected.

That he slammed the Blackberry Storm should tell you something - that it reflects a product hastily brought to market in response to the tremendous reception to the iPhone.

Don't get me wrong. I use both a Blackberry and an iPhone. The Blackberry isn't the glossy, addictive device that the iPhone is. In fact, as soon as my contract runs out, I'll thank RIM and ditch it in favor of my iPhone. In my experience, my Blackberry does email well. Its keyboard is quick to use. But its browser is pathetic, and adding apps is a nightmare. Plumbing its depths is not for the weak of heart. In short, it's a great device for men who wear ties and heavily starched shirts.

But I have seen the future, and it's the iPhone. I've gotten up to speed with typing, and find the iPhone is a much more enjoyable email, calendaring and all-around mobile device. Its software is light years ahead of the Blackberry, period. Apps are a joy. It is far more reliable. In a very short period of time, my iPhone has become indispensable to me.

So to say that David Pogue is Steve Jobs' bitch, I must disagree. My experience (and I tested the Blackberry Storm - it was a nightmare) parallels that of David's. Spend some time with David as I have, and I think you could quickly agree with me.

Have a nice day.

@doc

Thank you, thank you, thank you for taking the words out of my mouth re: loose/lose. That drives me up the friggin' wall, too.

Dec 04, 08 - 06:36 pm Comment from: hagar57

What? Those RIM jobs are worse than us? We can't let this happen! Quick, let's flame Pogue! We want to be the worst, the most zealous, the most frightening group on the 'net.

Dec 04, 08 - 06:50 pm Comment from: Connor MacBook

@Superior Being, correct. Apple is one of the few companies that doesn't need competition to excel. It is always trying to outdo itself (the only true competition it has, anyway)

Don't forget "there" and "their", "then" and "than", "of" and "off".

Then there's that Motorola ad that actually used the phrase, "Who'd of thought" instead of "Who'd have thought".

Dec 04, 08 - 07:36 pm Comment from: since1985

The funniest comment posted on the NY Times article was the first one by Jared:

"David, David, David, when will you learn? There will always be a backlash when you say anything negative about products from companies named after fruit… "

- With respect to Mr Pogue (notice the double "that" in the first line)

I’ve always thought that that vocal sub-population of Mac and BlackBerry fans make up the world’s most watchful, most hostile grass-roots lobbying arm, but now I see that I was wrong.
There’s an even nastier one, the Despotic Nazi Spelling Nuts. - and they are on the loose!"

>Jimithy
@doc:
Thank you! That drives me nuts in the same way as the people that use apostrophes to pluralize words. Take a farking English class!<

Syntax. Take a farking grammar class! Jimithy.

>ron
Also - it's not a typo, IS correct. Go to the back of the class Jimithy and put ON that pointed hat with a big 'D' ON<

Is ron, is don, is good! is on on.

I may be Despotic but I am NOT nuts!

It's a usage issue, really. "loose" was spelled correctly...

and how do you know he didn't just type "o" twice by accident....maybe he typed that comment on his Storm, and the "click screen" stuck....

Yall spellin and grammar Natzi's is two uptite. U all need to drinks up some cool tall glass of Camel's Milk and take a laxative.

/* "As much as I love my iPhone, Apple needs stiff competition to keep from loosing its motivation to innovate." */

Apple has NEVER needed to be motivated to build quality products. They built a mobile phone like no other, a music player like no other, an OS like no other, a laptop like no other.

Dec 05, 08 - 11:35 am Comment from: EvilRonin

I have a Storm and an iPod Touch. I'd love an iPhone, but my work pays for my Verizon phone and AT&T;'s coverage where I live (in in a large suburb north of San Diego) is so bad I have no reception in my house so I couldn't really get one if I wanted to. The Storm was clearly rushed out the door to be out for the Thanksgiving holiday and does have a lot of issues. But the phone is not nearly as bad as it's being made out to be, especially with the newest build that was leaked out on the internet that will be officially release today. The new build cleans up a ton of the nagging things that the original reviewers complained about. Most of the other issues are also fixable with future updates. The click screen will either be loved or hated. If you like a "real" keyboard, it will never compare. If you want better feedback, it's not a bad thing - I am ambivalent about it.

I think Verizon will sell a lot of them, just because people like me can't or won't go to AT&T;and while it's not an iPhone killer, another release or two should keep people happy with it.

Loose the attitude there buddy and losen up!

"...AT&T;'s coverage where I live (in in a large suburb north of San Diego) is so bad I have no reception in my house..."

Check the zBoost line of indoor cellular repeaters for home and small offices by Wi-Ex. If you get a signal at all, they can improve your reception -- dramatically if you install their best antennas. One model works with both PCS and GSM cell phones. My brother has a basic model with only a small room antenna and swears by it. He is now upgrading the antennas to ensure solid coverage throughout his three-story house.