President Bush shows off his Apple iPod (link to video)

“Ever wondered what the most powerful man in the world listens to in his spare time? In a rare departure from formal media interviews, George Bush has revealed what is on his personal IPod. Andrew Wilson reports on the President’s favourite tunes,” Sky News reports.

President Bush gets out his 4G iPod and reads some of the songs contained within: The Beach Boys, The Beatles, Alan Jackson, The Archies, Aretha Franklin, “Dan McLean,” upon which Bush was corrected “Don McLean” by Brit Hume, and more. Bush also has an iPod shuffle for bike riding. Bush also says U2’s Bono showed him the new Apple iPod 5G. “My iPod is a clunker, the newer version is much lighter” compared to the new 5G video-capable iPod, Bush said.

The video can be viewed here.

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132 Comments

  1. so, the Bushbashers would rather have that wanking coward kerry in the white house? “mark” got it right; if that putz was in power, the frogs would be dictating American foreign policy; saddam would still be in power; the taliban would still be raping afganistan; and we’d be “enjoying” vastly higher taxes. W may be a little strange, and out of his depth sometimes, but there is no doubt that he was the vastly better choice over that smarmy butt-buddy of little teddy.

  2. Just another GW distraction giving the Bush administration enough time to pick your pockets clean. It’s definitely going to be a Merry Christmas for the haves and the have mores.

  3. oh yes billysmoronmom. What’s best for the USA is to have the Chinese finance tax breaks for the rich in this country all while in a time of ‘war’. If you don’t have a 7-8 figure net worth you should never vote for a neocon.

  4. To bvdecicco
    >So he’s not completely a moron. Mostly, but not all moron. Just a teeny bit not a moron. Well, he is still all moron, but at least he likes his iPods.>

    Do you have an MBA? Can you fly a jet?

    You probably couldn’t be president of a toilet. Yeah, the handle is for flushing.

    Get real, you maroon.

  5. Those who call Kerry a coward should stand in line for options on the Brooklyn Bridge. I am holding the auction next month.

    Gullible morons!

    I love Apple but I could give a rats that GWB uses anything made by them.

  6. I bet you’ll be really excited to know that Bushy probably has a video of you and all your fudge packing, bush loving friends on his video iPod. You know, the one the NSA drops off to him so he can spy on Americans first-hand now? Bush is ruining this country, even without the war!

  7. A classic piece.

    This is a clunker compared to the newer version.

    I got the shuffle … lightweight … [thumb-press gesture] … crank it on … <u>and</u> you shuffle the shuffle.

    Put in in my pocket … got the hits[sic], uh ear-things on….

    And if you don’t like it, you hit … the next button. Pretty hi-tech stuff.

  8. The Archies??? Aretha Franklin??? WTF! This is bad! The Archies, that’s the Monkees minus Peter Tork. I thought they went out of business 35 years ago!
    Looks like his music taste was frozen during his college time. That’s what juvenile binge drinking does to you.

  9. Yeah most cowards I know went to Vietnam when they didn’t have to, saw combat and recieved 3 purple hearts. Then again, I also know a bunch of anti-American fags who try to strip people of their combat experience, purple hearts, etc., because of political bias. Such people almost always never went to war for their country, and somehow claim to be patriotic when in fact they spit on the American flag and everything it stands for when they try to call a bonafide soldier a “coward”. You hypocrites make me sick.

  10. Herbert: Looks like his music taste was frozen during his college time. That’s what juvenile binge drinking does to you.

    If you watched the whole piece, he also had Alison Krauss. No prettier, more tasteful music has ever been recorded this side of heaven. I’d say he possesses some excellent taste in music.

  11. Anim…
    Kerry spent 3 months “in country” and later spent the entire election campaign trying to convince the American public he was “Rambo.” Kerry is just a toady to that drunk from Mass riding his brothers’ fame.

  12. doncha just love these MDNs open invitations to bash Bush ? …
    (not that he hasn’t given us ample opportunity to bash him)

    But what is even more strange, is the lack of the right wing-nuts (posting here) who are bashing the Bush bashers !!

    MDN MW: “Party”
    as in … party on !!

  13. Yeah, all this Bush bashing is like liberals getting that little rubber medical hammer hitting their “funny bone”. Course such an instrument would not be used on their spine because of the obvious reason that their species doesn’t have one. Anything the man says or does is fodder for their cannons. Go Bush, Go iPod…

    MDN word: society Oh the irony!

  14. Well done Mark, great line there… “George Bush is awesome! Thank god the french democrats aren’t running things. The terrorists would be running things by now.”

    Just wait for history to run its course… because when Iraq is free, democratic and an example to the rest of the Middle East – in a year or two – people will have to shut up about the ‘war’ and how wrong it was.

  15. Amazing, the President of the United States doing a free ad for the iPod.

    We should all be real happy.

    (And you notice how even knew how it worked and the different models. Apple fan or what!)

  16. I would think that everyone wants Iraq to work out. That’s the difference between *REAL* patriots and fake ones. The real ones saw all the lies and bullshit and incompetence of Bush’s plan to invade Iraq, and called ’em out on it, but at the same time hoped that in the end it DOES work out for this country and the world. The fake ones ate up all the bullshit like lemmings and are more concerned about “being right” than being truthful. And that goes for some leftists as well. Most people on the left that I know *want* Iraq to make it to a stable democratic government. I know it’s hard to imagine for an idealistic neo-con that eats up all the bullshit they are fed on Fox news nightly, but most Liberals are more patriotic than you can imagine.

  17. Kerry spent 3 months “in country”

    Good enough for me. How many months did you spend “in country” to give you the right to call our soldiers “cowards”. Is your MO to undermine brave US soldiers? Are you working for the terrorists?

  18. you can always tell those who actually believe Fox News is actually “real” news…. These are the ones who blame all of our countrys ills on those “darned liberals” …

    I’ve got news for you kumquats …. the liberals aren’t the enemy here !
    Our country was founded on a free exchange of ideas ! .. This means that both the liberal and the conservative points of view are equally valid and equally important for our country to grow !

    And those Fox News watchers, who would have you believe otherwise, are not only dangerous to the American way of life .. but they are also showing their ignorance !

  19. I’m Nick’s leaking ass. I can tell you that I’d MUCH rather have a hummer-receiving, philandering, sycophantic, wife-hating, missle-launching, flip-flopper in the White House who actually said that “we can’t give that money back to the people, we’re not sure they’d spend it correctly.”

    No thanks, Nick’s Leaking Ass — I’ll take George Bush any day, you CNN suckhole.

  20. At least Bush freely comes out and says he uses an iPod.

    If it were Kerry, he’d take a poll before the interview and make sure he had an iPod, a Creative, and some other POS player in his pocket so he wouldn’t “offend” anybody with the wrong choice.

    Spineless liberals deserve their spineless “leaders” (Nancy “Harpie” Pelosi) and their gutless, sell-out, spineless allies (France).

  21. Hey, Spank, lemme help you: “Kerry spent 3 months ‘in country’… and THEN tried to MAKE like it was much, much more than that. At the very least, the guy posed (during his fifteen minutes) as a war hero, when clearly he was anything BUT. Plenty of folks have spent time “in country” and not lied about it. Now, about Fox… and the “bullshit” they supposedly feed us, Mr. I’m-Not-Biased. What do YOU watch, CNN? Or do you prefer the network that Dan Rather called home? Lovin’ that NYTimes are ya? So… can you tell me exactly which story Fox has “fed” us recently that was erroneous, or even biased? (I’ll double your output while limiting myself to any other network.) Clue: There’s a REASON why folks have made Fox #1… and it ain’t because we’re all “righty-tighties,” either. Somebody needs to call you on your own bullshit.

  22. mac dood, you seem to know soooo much about Fox, and all their doo-doo head watchers who actually believe Fox is presenting “real” news. Same question we gave Sir Spanks-A-Lot goes to you: Where do YOU get your news? Please help those of us too ignorant to figure out when we’re getting FAIR reporting, will you? First off, anybody who believes everything they hear is an out of the closet moron. And if you’re going to hold up a mainstream network over Fox, in my humble opinion, you not only drank your liberal koolaid… you’ve been standing upside down with your head in a toilet full of it for a while now. But if you’ve got facts, well… let’s have ’em!

  23. stinker …

    “Fair and Balanced”….. How can it be ? .. when Fox News uses the term ” Liberal” as a curse word ? …. Balanced ? …. whats your definition? ….. Fair ?? …. to whom ??

    “Real Journalism” …. Do you even know what that is ??
    There is an award for “Excellence in Journalism” given out every year …. its the “Oscar” for Journalism …. and its called .. “The Edward R. Murrow” award ….

    Has Fox News ever achieved this standard ?
    Have you ever wondered why ?

    So, you go on your rampage about those “darned liberals” .. and coninue to spread the hate spewed by Fox News, and forget the fact that our forefathers actually wanted “The People” to keep a close eye on those in public office … pointing out their faults, calling them on their lies, etc.

    Remember, …. no one died, when Clinton lied !

  24. Try as you might to call one of our troops who fought in Vietnam a coward, stinker, you just can’t get around it. You are shitting on a guy who went to Vietnam, fought and risked his life in honor of our country, recieved 3 purple hearts, and saved another soldiers life. Maybe you should move to Iran, I’m sure plenty of people over there would agree with your blatant disrepect for our soliders.

  25. Wow, I’m impressed that anyone of the President’s generation gets it! And, he’s exactly right, if you have an older iPod, the 5G makes it look like a “clunker”!

    What I really dislike about the public discourse is the lack of civility and respect. Regardless of where you stand upon the issues, the ad hominem attacks are just rude.

  26. i will forever be amazed at how some people interpret things. Someone here claimed that MDN posting this news story was an invite to bash Bush. For those who have already forgotten the headline, here it is:

    President Bush shows off his Apple iPod

    Pray do tell: is it not obvious to you that it is your insecurities and preconceptions talking rather than MDN?

    Now, if the headline had been … ah, forget it. There’s enough chum in the water as it is.

  27. Hmm? Let’s see. You’re comparing someone who VOLUNTEERED to go to Vietnam to someone who got into the National Guard to AVOID going to Vietnam. The first person has a silver star and a bronze star; the second, a missing year of service – also known as AWOL.

    And if you want to try the Swift Boat route on these facts, let’s talk about their coordinator, Karl Rove – soon to be indicted TRAITOR in a time of war.

    Yep, Bush can use an iPod; not so much luck on a Segway or a variety of mountain bikes.

    Let’s just hope his staff subscribes to Newsweek podcasts in iTunes. He has said he doesn’t read the news – listening might be his only option.

  28. “……….mac dood, you seem to know soooo much about Fox,……”

    Well, I do know that Fox News is owned by Rupert Murdock … one of the most devout right wing-nuts in this country !
    (google him)

    I also know that a viewer isnt supposed to know the political affiliation of a news anchor …. but do we know which party 99% of the people on Fox News belong to ??

    (now thats a no-brainer)

    I invite you to take a bonehead Journalism course at your local Junior College …

    You will be surprised to learn that a proper news story contains the following information …

    • The Who
    • The Where
    • The Why
    • The When
    • The How

    Nothing more…nothing less … The minute you insert your opinion into the story, it is no longer “news”…. it becomes… just your opinion !!

    Facts are facts …. Fox News … isnt news !!

  29. Yes while GW is an idiot, retarded definetly at least Jon Ive’s design is flawless even and yes you guessed it an idiot can use it without even knowing what the right words are for listening and using an iPod.

    Go Apple go!!

    Isn’t it just great to be a Mac user in the early 21st Century!!!

    Sky News is the British sister station to Fox News and both owned by News Corp and Rupert Murdoch.

    MW ‘europe’ as in where else in the world do the smartest people come from – Europe.

  30. At least Bush married for love. No way did Kerry. His wife is a strange rich witch.

    As for Europe, if there are any smart people there, it is only because we save their butts every quarter century. No thanks necessary, its like helping a cripple, anyone would do it.

  31. OK, you stinking liberals. Ever ask yourself why viewership and readership of main stream media is down?

    Dishonest reporting at the NYTIMES, USA Today, Chicago Trib, et al. (Jayson Blair ring any bells?)

    Dishonest reporting at CBS new by Dan Rather (Trying to effect an election with phony docs).

    All doom and gloom and US bashing on Iraq by Evening news shows that refuse to show all the positive things that have happened as a result of the US getting rid of an evil regime.

    Taliban is gone. Saddam is gone. Al Queada gone soon.

    You libs are a bunch of wankers. Why don’t you hear what some Iraqis feel about it.

    http://thepoliticalteen.com/video/gotohell.mov

    You won’t get this on the evening news. Chumps.

  32. hey “TheMacDude”…

    lemee ask you something …..

    Why did GW give the Taliban (and OBL) a 3-month head start before invading Afganastan ? ….

    And while Im on the subject .. just where is OBL ??

    And just why isnt OBL on Bush’s radar anymore ?? … Wasnt he the guy who was responsible for 9/11 ??

    Could the reason be because GW has been financed by the Bin Laden family all these years ??

    uhhh … never mind … I’m probably asking the wrong person anyhoo

  33. To all my free thinking anti-Bush friends. Stop arguing with these idiot Bushies. First this to do when arguing with an idiot is to stop, they just make you look stupid too.

  34. mac doo, answers to your silly questions.

    >>Why did GW give the Taliban (and OBL) a 3-month head start before invading Afganastan ? ….

    Would you have preferresd indiscriminate bombing? Of course, if Bush would have done so, you’d be the first screaming. You stupid Democrats and the UN gave Saddam 13 months to get rid of his WMD evidence with silly debate on intelligence that was cited by the Clinton admin way back in ’98-99. Look it up. You may want to also look up Madeline Albright and Sandy Berger on their Iraq WMD comments circa 199-2000.

    Mainstream media makes you dumb.

    >>And while Im on the subject .. just where is OBL ??

    OBL is more than likely at cave temperature due to precision bombing from the good guys. Our US military.

    >>And just why isnt OBL on Bush’s radar anymore ?? … Wasnt he the guy who was responsible for 9/11 ??

    >>Probably because he is dead and his desparate partner in Evil, Al Zarqawi is the focus now.

    Could the reason be because GW has been financed by the Bin Laden family all these years ??

    >>You obviously suffer from Michael Moore disease. How old are you? 14?

  35. “…….You obviously suffer from Michael Moore disease. How old are you? 14?…..

    oh…. and just because he mentioned this well known fact in one of his movies… this makes me a teen ager ?

    No, I am not a teenager, I am a Viet Nam Vet… I’ll leave it to you to use a calculator (if need be) to figure my age …

    OBL is at cave temperature ?? … Thats good…. not likely true… but a good line nonetheless ..

    >>”you stupid Democrats and the UN gave Saddam 13 months to get rid of his WMD evidence”….<<

    And how did he accomplish this miracle while the entre world was watching him ?

    >>”Mainstream media makes you dumb.”<<

    And Fox News isnt “Mainstream” ?? …. oh, but they DO make you smart, dont they ?

  36. Hey, The Dude — well said. Let’s revisit:

    “Stop arguing with these idiot Bushies. First this to do when arguing with an idiot is to stop, they just make you look stupid too.”

    Okay, liberal retard, let’s see how it SHOULD read:

    “Stop arguing with these idiot Bushies. First THING to do when arguing with an idiot is to stop. THEY just make you look stupid too.”

    Who’s the idiot now, douchebag?

  37. All I wish is that people would get on. Planet Earth is a wonderful place, with us, the human race, who llive within it. My stance? Forget all this rubbish. If you want to talk, then talk. If your want to fight then walk away, then think about what you quarrel over and a way to both get what you want. Simple issues interest people. Things that make you happy – providing for a family, making tough decisions, doing SOMETHING you are proud of. Something that makes you feel invincible. If we all learn to live in this world and work together we could create an opn source human race. Not some Bill Gates/George W. Bush/Ibrahim Al-Jaafari/Clinton/Blair/Major/Cheney ideology, but a world that is communicating internationally but NOT relying on International produce/money/oil to run day-to day business.

    Self-sustainability. Some day we will all have to learn this skill.

    Peace brothers, Mac Lovers.

  38. You obviously suffer from Michael Moore disease. How old are you? 14? What are you talking about? All this Michael Moore Bashing about him being a liberal is non-sense. Michael Moore is a Republican.

    Next. Why argue about Bush. There is no way we can get him out so why are you pro Bushers so addiment on defending him. Be smart, shut up. You won’t sound so dumb. He’s now a lame duck president that has maneuvered himself in to a corner with the vast mistakes he has made both domestically and abroad. He’s a disease that no smart politician wants to be associated with. The last election showed us that when a Candidate actually lost a race for governorship with his support.

    Kerry Bashing? Lol. Jeeze guys, he didn’t get in and won’t. Get over it.

    Clinton? He’s going down in history as the Greatest president we have ever known. Americans Prospered when he was in office. Besides every president has shared a bed with other than his wife and it has never been a prob. Every president has lied and it has never been a problem. People have more problems with Clintons messy dress scandal than they do with The Kennedy Bros. bedding all of Hollywood. AND THEY LIED. At least to their wives.

    We have all found out what intelligence we have. There is no way anyone could hide nuke mass destruction weapons and sneak them out of the country. Not without witness. Can you say Satellite surveillance? A movement like that would have been seen.

    If you know of a weapon that hits the targets that they are suppose too let me know, K? Smart Bomb? Where is it? We hit schoolhouses fool. Smart bomb was something our government told people so that they would inspire confidence in us, the American public and to scare the enemy away. Now we all know that monster doesn’t exist.

    How about satellite guided weapon we could launch and it would hit a gnat from clear across the globe? If that exists, why are we involving 16 and 18 year olds to die in this war. ALL LIES. Like the saying goes. “No one died when Clinton lied.”

    OBL. He’s a friend of Bush, how could he destroy him? All of you need to back away from the TV and read. Bush is a fool that is just going through the motions. He is and always has been a knee jerk reactionist. He has done more to take away our freedoms than any other president.

    Here’s the big one. Why did Bush announce he was going to war after 911? What he should have done is said nothing and sent a secret force to find the terrorists. OBL would have thought that we were the passive Americans again and just stood still where he would have been caught. But Bush wanted to go to war as well as warn OBL. He wanted fame as a war president. He even called himself a war president in one speech when it is a matter or record he avoided military service.

    Bush switched gears awful quick from OBL to Saddam. Iraq has never been a country that has ever attacked us. Corrupt maybe but face it. If we went after every corrupt government we’d have to be at war forever. And what happened to the three-month war that overtaking Iraq was suppose to be? They weren’t that easy to overtake were they?

    Am I liberal? Am I conservative? NO, I’m an observer and because of that I have no affiliation. Is Bush a bad president? He certainly isn’t a leader. He’s a coward and too quick to decide. Liberals. Celebrate he only has three more years. Conservatives. Take comfort in the fact he’ll be there awhile longer and there is nothing the liberals can do about it. What’s the Argument? Bush hasn’t stained any ones dress. Then, who the heck wants him? Better to stain a dress with Clinton than to stain a reputation with Bush.

  39. Bad Tool is more like a Bad Fool.

    Your not fooling anyone here but yourself. I could rebut all your silly assertions but why bother. For example, If Mr. Moore was a Republican, why was he a special guest during the Demo convention. Sat next to another traitor, Jimmy Carter.

    Again, you fool no one. I could go on but why bother.

  40. bvdecicco: “So he’s not completely a moron … Well, he is still all moron, but at least he likes his iPods.”

    I think it’s time to propose a new law, let’s call it Margret’s Law, that goes like this:

    If any online discussion mentions G.W. Bush or those who voted for him, the probability of an assertion that the President is a moron (stupid, retarded, any other of a number of reduced-IQ epithets) instantly approaches 1.

    And, as has been traditional with Godwin’s Law, the logical corollary:

    Whoever says Bush or his supporters are stupid automatically loses the argument.

    ————

    Enough already. Bush talks plain and has had the courage to take action where none of his predecessors dared tread. Bush thinks different. And he’s cured the despotic pathology of the Middle East as a result. Some of you may not be able to see it now, but I and many others see it as clearly as we see Apple’s ascendance in the technology landscape of the future.

    It wouldn’t be the first time a visionary was initially ridiculed…

  41. Why do some people insist on bringing their politics into every conversation? It is flat out disgusting how tasteless these attacks on the President are. It must be because liberals hate to see this country do yet one more great thing that other countries were too afraid to do. I think I’ve finally figured out liberals have no vested interest in seeing our country remaining a leader in the free world. If it were up to them, we would all be living in a socialist utopia with a dictator who took away all our firearms, told us we could only speak on liberal controlled media aka CNN, NYT, etc, force us all to use Linux, because of course any AMERICAN product such as an Apple computer simply isn’t good enough for them… And of course when there are other countries under oppression, we are supposed to support the dictator of the country, not the poor oppressed people. I say to hell with liberalism. If all they care about is power and greed, and can’t cut through the political bullshit and realize that what we are doing in Iraq is literally saving the lives of millions of people in the United States and Iraq, then to hell with them…

  42. Well put Joe, I agree, and congrats on no typos!

    Also, I gotta think that the femara ad is a big waste of time. “first and only approved extended adjuvant treatment for postmenopausal women with early stage breast cancer”

    show of hands boys?

  43. Why do some people insist on bringing their politics into every conversation? It is flat out disgusting how tasteless these attacks on the President are. It must be because liberals hate to see this country do yet one more great thing that other countries were too afraid to do. I think I’ve finally figured out liberals have no vested interest in seeing our country remaining a leader in the free world. If it were up to them, we would all be living in a socialist utopia with a dictator who took away all our firearms, told us we could only speak on liberal controlled media aka CNN, NYT, etc, force us all to use Linux, because of course any AMERICAN product such as an Apple computer simply isn’t good enough for them… And of course when there are other countries under oppression, we are supposed to support the dictator of the country, not the poor oppressed people. I say to hell with liberalism. If all they care about is power and greed, and can’t cut through the political bullshit and realize that what we are doing in Iraq is literally saving the lives of millions of people in the United States and Iraq, then to hell with them..
    ——————————————————-
    Pull your head out of your ass.

  44. Margret has it absolutely right: Bush is instantly ridiculed whenever his name is mentioned in any internet forum. However, Ronald Reagan was also ridiculed in much the same way (obviously not on the internet as it didn’t exist in it’s present form at that time). Reagan was painted by the media and the liberal intelligensia to be a simpleton who’s war-mongering ways were pushing us toward WW III. The Europeans decried the Pershing missiles and domestically Reagan was ostrasized by the media for confronting the communists rather than appeasing them.

    However, history has proven the liberals wrong and even Reagan’s biggest detractors (ala John Kerry who’s only consistancy is that he has always been on the wrong side of history) now concede that he was right.

    I’m a Republican, but I don’t always tow the party line and I frequently disagree with Bush on certain issues, but on the whole, I think Margret is right, history will be kind to Bush just as it has been (and will be) to Reagan. Liberalism is essentially vailed socialism which is a system that has proven bereft of any benefit.

    Mark

  45. Your ignorance is their power. They need your drunken patriotism to pick your f’ing pocket. Iraq is not about democracy it’s about neocon cronies taking the US treasury for all it worth. 9 billion + missing in Iraq. Were’s the money a$$hole. They don’t give a $hit about democracy, it’s about the money. It’s about Brownie doing a heck of a job giving contracts to his good friends. How many more Brownies are there out there? A lot you D1ck. Your ignorance is their power. Holy Crap, you probably believe there’s an attack on Christmas. Well Goddamn Merry JesusMas to you. Have fun shopping for your love ones at Walmart, because Jesus loves shopping at Walmart. Keep waving the flag and putting “support our troops’ bumper stickers on your G’damn car, because that’s what it takes to be righteous in this land, a f’n sticker.

    Everyone please support the people at http://www.fisherhouse.org/,
    a truly amazing organization.

  46. Joe. You start off your post with “Why do some people insist on bringing their politics into every conversation?” then bring in very thing you complain about, politics. I knew my comments would bring commentary but none so hypicritical as this? Keep fighting, I’m watching?

    Oh, I will add one thing. Bush said he was a uniter and he has done more to divid this country. I’m not either a liberal or a conservitive BUT he banties librilism around like it is a cuss word. I’m not saying that librals don’t do the same but if he was such a uniter why does he banty his prejudice like a flag. Liberals aren’t bad guys. When we hang and shoot them all we will look back and see they were just Americans like the rest of us. Something Bush should learn if he is such a uniter.

    TheMacDude, step up. I just read you could dispute everything I said but talk is cheap. I can say the same but unless I do it’s a useless claim.

    Oh, for the record. You mentioned Michael Moore as an issue. I meerly mentioned he wasn’t. So I will agree with you, he’s an issue. lol

    He’s a Jounalist/Film Maker. Why do you put so much importance on him? When you do you validate him. That makes everyone think that he is telling the truth and you are afraid of him. K? He does have thoughts that are interesting but they are just a spin, a view. He is no smarter or better than any one of us nor does he hold any rank but you make him sound like a political threat. Good thinking.

    For those who don’t know, Michael Moore is a card carrying member of the NRA and I don’t mean Nationla Cash Regester Association. So if he is a liberal and you think liberals are against guns, explain that one.

  47. It is just amazing how the liberal Kerry/Chirac/Shroder supporters are now spinning like mad (top marks to G Spank) as they know they’ve lost all the arguments. The so-called ‘war’ was right and necessary and has brought huge benefits, with many yet to come.

    In all of this remember that Clinton would have gone into Iraq if he hadn’t had his power base removed by getting his dick attended to by Monica.

    As for George W, I wish a few more of his generation were willing to give this stuff a try. Don’t know, but I seem to remember on MDN someone saying he did use Macs. So perhaps he could be an MDN contributor – obviously not G Spank though!

  48. I find it very interesting to read many of the above comments. Most of you pacifist must have failed your history classes. You truly believe that if we do nothing and sit on our hands peace will brake out in the world.

    One of the greatest pacifists is Jimmy Carter. Look at what he did or did not do. Communists invade Afghanistan, starting some of the problem that Bush has be cleaning up. You pacifists have such a small mind thinking that the UN or France can chance the world. You really think that just talking to your enemy is all we need to do for peace to break out in the world.

    To all you pacifists who think the freedoms you enjoy were just handed to you are stupid! Your freedom was paid for by lives in wars. Millions have died so you pacifist can say dumb things on this very web site.

    Go read your history books, because you’re repeating history.

    WMD

  49. We’re now seeing the evidence that the Iraq war was right and good; Bush will soon be hailed for his wisdom and perseverance. America-despising libs will be hating life, but of course that’s the one thing they’re good at.
    Go Bush! (Though you spend like a drunken Dem.)

  50. Bad fool,

    OK, I just read your post. Boy, you are out there. Can anyone say lunatic fringe? BTW, you brought up Michael Moore. I repudiate him not validate him. Also, where is your evidence that every Pres has slept around? And where did you get the notion that our weapons are not accurate (liberal orgs probably). These comments demonsrate who you are and I again say, you fool no one.

    Your comment about Bush being a divider shows how ignorant you are. If you would have listened to his speeches and not the mainstream press you would have known that one of his goals was to bring a “new tone” to Washington when he took office. He has worked with Democrats on a host of issues one example is the education bill with super lib Ted Kennedy. He’s spent like a Democrat too! He’s done his best to work with them but like “Rush Limballs” here, you can’t because their hateful types. They hate everything American.

    Iraq never a country that has attacked us? Hmmmm, look up “no fly zone” after Gulf War I. Did Germany attack us in WWII? These points you make come straight out of the Democrat anti war movement. Again, you fool no one so please quit saying you are neither liberal or conservative.

    Modern Democrats are no longer the loyal opposition. Example, they just filibustered the Patriot act. Now we can go back to pre 9-11 when terrorists had a free hand to conspire to kill and murder Americans. Good luck NYC, LA, SF, Chicago and other large liberal metropolises.

    BTW, I served 8 yrs in the military, boo-yah. Most under Reagan. I served overseas when the communist threat was at their doorstep. We Americans were much appreciated then. Now that there is not a major threat, Europe kicks us to the curb. We’ll have to go save their butts again. The cycle continues.

  51. Reality Sphincter — Put aside your personal hatred for a person and judge that person’s ACTIONS and ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

    Clinton — Good at getting blow-jobs and desecrating the White House with cigar pussy insertions whilst simultaneously treating every terrorist attack as a police matter and neglecting to pick up Bin Laden while bombing aspirin factories to divert attention from getting IMPEACHED!!!

    Bush — Kicked the fucking shit out of Taliban shitskins and rebuilt Iraq into what history will judge as the first blow against totalitarianism in that part of the world. Oh yah, and as a small business owner he CUT MY FUCKING TAXES!!!!!!!!

    Imagine that — Clinton was FUCKING IMPEACHED!!!! Quite a fucking accomplishment.

    Go BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  52. TheMacDude….“…..Iraq never a country that has attacked us? Hmmmm, look up “no fly zone” after Gulf War I. Did Germany attack us in WWII?

    No, Germany never attacked us…. but at the time Japan attacked us, we were going through (the waning part) of a period known as “The Depression”… and we were itching to get involved in the War, to aid our economy…. What this fact has to do with the current situation in Iraq is beyond me…

    “No-Fly-zone” ??? …. Gee… wasnt that a stuation where we had Saddam completely isolated ??? ….. Whatcher point ?? … Saddam wasnt going anywhere …. so, why did we attack him ? … Especially when we could have been putting the bulk of our troops where it could have done the most good …in Afganastan… against the people who really attacked us !!

    But… instead…. your Prez Bush decided that serving justice on those who killed over 3,000 people in NYC, plus those at the Pentagon were LESS important…. than going after Iraqs oil !!
    And make no mistake… Iraqi Oil is the basis for the war there !!

    “……Modern Democrats are no longer the loyal opposition. Example, they just filibustered the Patriot act. Now we can go back to pre 9-11 when terrorists had a free hand to conspire to kill and murder Americans. Good luck NYC, LA, SF, Chicago and other large liberal metropolises…..”

    This statment is riducous !!

    Obviously…. like most Fox News watchers …. you have NEVER even read The Patriot Act !! ….. I suggest you Google it… and try to read it … I know its complicated in parts… but if you can (possibly) get your head around its true meaning… as well as its implicaions…. even you might be frightened at some of YOUR civil liberties which were magically taken away … under the guise of “securing our country” ….

    While I agree, SOMETHING should have been done to secure our country… The Patroit Act wasnt it !!

    The funny thing about your posts are mainly the way you attack people who dont share your pro-Bush point of view…. and dismiss them as Liberals … !!

    Fact is …. you dont have to be a Liberal to question Bush’s motives .. or his actions…. Fact is …. Like most Pro-Bush Fox News watchers …. you havent a clue what a REAL Liberal is …. Just because you heard that Liberals believe such and such (on Fox News, of course) ….. doesnt make it so !!

    For example …. most Pro-Bush people actually believe that the Liberals .. “want to take our guns away from us”…. Well, I know quite a few people who have arsenals in their basements… and I .. for one… am damn glad they have them !! …. Because… should the time ever arise … where I feel the need to aquire a gun …. at least I’ll know where to go !!

    Fact is … history will show Bush to be the fool in this war against Iraq …. because… Iraq wont be able to sustain a democratic form of govt WITHOUT the presence of American troops…. and even when we finally leave .. (think at least 10 years) ….. We’ll leave WITHOUT the oil !!

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  53. I love all the Bush bashing…he is a two time Governor and a two time Presidnt…indications of stupidity and incompetence??? I think not. What is it all you whiners do for a living? What have you accomplished in your miserable lives? Don’t start with the he’s elected by the rich Neo-cons crap…do you really think they would entrust their fortunes and futures to a moron. Grow up!

    I’m sure it tears him up at night thinking you students and Blockbuster clerks don’t think he is smart enough for the job. You liberal nut bags crack me up!

  54. Clinton is cool. So he slipped up — personally — like millions do because we are hard-wired to respond to nature’s calling. Anyway, he came down under and gave a speech that was moving in its vision and broad scope. Sure, his speechwriters played a big part in that, but that applies to most presidents; the content and performance doesn’t.

    I knew we the world was heading for trouble when the US took a swing to the right, aided and abetted by the evangelical movement and supported by the pro-Israel lobby; and I knew the trouble would come from the Middle East. I don’t begrudge the US or Israel for their national security aspirations, just as I don’t begrudge the Palestinians for wanting a home. But every action has its consequences. Moving towards the center moves your opponents towards the center; moving towards peace does the same. You take a hard line when you’ve exhausted the gentler options — and the whole world would be supportive then.

    The Clintons are cool. Bush needs to show he has his “own” agenda, not somebody else’s. One thing is obvious though, the neo-christians are nudging the country back towards the dark ages.

    As for Murdoch and FoxNews; you misunderstand the man. He’s just a businessman — giving the people what the people want — a sure-fire success formula. Don’t consume it and the fare would change. Quickly.

  55. Aussie …

    Finally, someone with a brain !!

    Hats off to ya !!

    I would caution you tho, those right wing-nuts in our society have been taught … (by Fox News et al) to hate anyone with an opposing view … (Im sure youve noticed) ….

    It kinda harkens back to the days of the KKK and the Nazis …. they both preached hate as well !! …. And both were successful (to a degree) .. with their hate campaigns…

    What these right wing hate mongers fail to realize is … BOTH sides of the fence have some valid points !! …. Instead of trying to find common ground, they would much rather spew hate at “those darned Liberals” …. as if those who can see the failings of our Chief Executive should be dismissed as idiots …

    To those of whom I speak … I would like to ask if they also think that compitition is good for democracy…. or not ???

    If you can agree that it is good for democracy…. then why do you consistantly turn a blind eye to the multi-billion dollar no-bid contracts awarded (by Bush) to VP Dick Cheneys Company …. Halliburton ??
    (should this act be investigated …or not ?)

    What lesson can a new (so-called) Democratic Iraq … draw from this ?

    Peace

  56. Hate, anger and the unwillingness to believe what you see and not what you hear is what is being presented.

    To begin with I’d like to know where this liberal news report is. Face it, news doesn’t’ care about you, it doesn’t care about me. It cares about money. There is no news any more. It is all hype and it goes to the highest bidder. If there is a liberal president all the hype will be liberal. Get real. That’s why I told you READ. NEWS FLASH. What goes down in print will be history, not what is on TV or Radio. I used to work in the news industry for TV. I was a journalist. TV News is an entertainment market. Think of the catch phrases used in news. “If it bleeds it leads” “If it dies it flies” “violence sells” You can that responsible news?

    You can share my arsenal of weapons if we ever get attacked. I am friends with both liberals and conservative views but I don’t address them as such nor do I hate either one. I take issue on views WHEN we talk of it. I know many liberal that own weapons. That is not only our right it is our responsibility. We are asking 16 and 19 year olds to die. We should be willing to die for our cause also instead of hiding behind the military to “Save us, ewww, ooo, save us.” I will say that I know conservative people who are against them and she hates being classified with the liberals’ thank you.

    If you just had one thought in this country (liberal/conservative, choose one) we would not have a freethinking America. I’m glad there are two or more sides. It’s part of our checks and balances and it works and has worked for over 200 years. Remember, Saddam excuted freethinkers. Is that what you want?

    I’m not afraid of being wrong and to that I must say that I have to retract what I said about not being the first to mention Michael Moore. I was late last night when I posted and I did not re read my original post. But that was in response to a quote and I didn’t remember thinking Michael Moore. My Bad. But I still stick to the notion that Michael Moore is not how all Americans’ should think nor is it the way all liberals’ think. I’m not saying Michael Moore is wrong. I’m saying is points are interesting.

    But I can also admit another mistake. I voted for Bush and I find myself sorry for having done so. Right now we find ourselves in the worst economy because of this mistake. We believed in him. Which comes to another point. Not all that voted for Bush are happy with him.

    In reference to Bush’s uniting. I’ll admit he talked the talk. But in actions he did not walk the walk.

    Remember Beta Max/VHS. Beta ran faster and faster produces better quality but VHS won out. Remember vinyl/Cassette. For a time cassette won out though vinyl gave fuller sound. Not better, more convenient. Now CD/MP3s. You don’t own MP3s for your information. You rent them. How about Mac/PC PC may not a better way to go but it is the most popular. Guess what? Popular doesn’t mean good. The two/two term for Bush is not an excuse to love him. Clinton won two terms too. Let’s love him. People are scared of change so they vote incumbent.

    And I agree this is all whining but I will not be back. This was all done on a dare. I was told that if I posted I would get posts I would not believe. I’m sorry people, he was right. Assumptions and hate driven protests is not a way to win an argument or to get a point across. You post these things here to incite anger and to those sucked into it you do accomplish just that. There are better things to get angry at and try to fix. Like I said. Love or hate, Bush is in for three more years. He neither needs your support (he’s done what he set out to do) nor your bashing (he’s painted his own corner, he’s a lame duck). Those are the facts kids.

    It might surprise you to note that I have taken allot of what you said and considered it. It was fun, it was different and an eye opener. At the end of the day no ones mind was changed here. And as far as personal facts, they are not believed either. Here comes an assumption. Since you are willing to pull them on me.

    TheMacDude, I don’t believe you believe anything you say. You are one of many people who take this as a video game and are more interested in arguing a point even if it is wrong just to see how many people you can get excited. I see that most people here don’t fall into that trap. It doesn’t work, give it up. Yeah I know, I did but like I said, I’m new at this and will not return. I’m not nor ever was interested in these kinds of posts.

    Aussie:
    If you really are from Australia I am embarrassed that you have to see this mindless hate because of a political view. You see from affar what people can’t see in the eye of the storm. Maybe we should all step back. Great Post

    mac dood:
    Great Post. We be good.

    Thank you. Good Health and a Merry Christmas to everyone.

  57. Uber-Liberals — AND Uber-Conservatives — are BOTH sickening.

    Clinton wasn’t as bad as conservatives claim, but Bush is NOWHERE NEAR as bad as liberals say he is.

    Stop judging people by how well they speak in public or by how much they like blowjobs. Many of our greatest leaders were not accomplished public speakers, and even more of them enjoyed blowjobs.

    Having said that, I do believe that Clinton’s legacy will be viewed less positively in the future than it is now, while Bush’s will be viewed more favorably than it is today. Clinton had a questionable young adulthood and was impeached. Bush had a questionable young adulthood and invaded a nation.

    In the future those respective facts will tarnish Clinton’s record more than anything questionable that Bush has done (so far).

    Besides . . .

    . . . LIKE MOST PATHETIC TAX-AHOLIC SOCIALIST-LEANING BIG GOVERNMENT LIBERAL PUKES WHO WERE NEVER SUCCESSFUL IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR CLINTON IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SELF-SERVING EGOTIST WHO PUTS HIS OWN DESIRES BEFORE ANYONE ELSE’S AND HAS JEOPARDIZED THE SAFETY OF AMERICA FOR POSSIBLY DECADES TO COME. HILLARY HAS HIS BALLS IN A SACK AND THAT F-CKIN ASSCLOWN FUCKHEAD IS THE BIGGEST POSER THE WHITE HOUSE HAS EVER SEEN. SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT BUSH BUT THE MAN DOESN’T TAKE OUT HIS DICK EVERY TIME TO SEE WHICH WAY THE WIND’S BLOWING IN ORDER TO TAKE A STAND ON AN ISSUE.

    F-CK CLINTON, GORE, KERRY, KENNEDY, PELOSI, DEAN AND ANY OTHER F-CKFACE WHO THINKS THAT THEY ARE THE GOVERNMENT AND NOT US!!!!!!!!

    AND F-CK ALL YOU LIBERAL SKANKS AND SCUMBAGS ON THIS BOARD!!!!! TWO F-CKIN’ TERMS, BWAAAAAAA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

  58. You brand yourself as all-mouth and no-brain by your LOUD rant — the kind of post readers don’t bother much with; proof perhaps of Aussie’s point about sliding back toward the dark ages. As for a blowjob, I bet you’d be the first to pull down your pants.

  59. Am I the only one who just thought it was nice to see the President of the United States, regardless of name or party, messing around with an iPod…just like the rest of us? Why can’t we just say, “Cool! Look who else has an iPod!” and leave the rhetoric and propaganda in more appropriate forums?

    What has become of us?

  60. Troll. Take heart. When profanity is used in any statement whether frivolity or serious only the profanity is heard. To get your point across you don’t want to change languages especially from English To Anglo-Saxon.

  61. The President using Apple computers and all else makes sense, good sense. Can’t have the President’s computer hacked or spyware infected. I wouldn’t want anyone in government using anything but Apple.

    As for this comment:
    “Is that the same one that was under his jacket during the Kerry debates?”
    Anyone heard of Photoshop? I wouldn’t put anything past the press. Bush isn’t perfect but the other choice, Kerry, was far more frightening in these turbulent times than electing Bush. Can’t believe there are people that actually think you can strike honest agreements and deals with terrorists. Please. It is a sad fact that some groups of people only understand force and won’t honor civilized treaties.

    Ted Kennedy is a joke. The young Dems today don’t remember Ted’s DWI driving his car with a young female aid Mary Jo Kopechne into a river then fleeing–and not for immediate help. He’s got his own skeletons in his closet of scum.

    Primary reason I left the Dem. party years ago they stood for too many bleading heart give-aways to people too freakin’ lazy to work. (some being some distant relatves of mine). Or supporting people stupid enough keep having babies even though they were dirt poor to begin with, or had 4 more babies after they were complaining about not having enough money when they had the FIRST one. I’m sick of watching my hard earned money going to the lazy and the stupid.

    Admittedly, I do still side with the Democrats on environmental concerns.

  62. Well, Mac Fool, I don’t usually engage in arguments with insane people like yourself but your post certainly warrants a rebuttal being that you put words in my mouth that were never posted by me.

    Let’s start from the beginning.

    >>Hate, anger and the unwillingness to believe what you see and not what you hear is what is being presented.

    Hate comes from the many posts here calling our Pres all kinds of names using profane and filthy language. You liberals refuse to believe what you see with your own eyes, partly due to the mainstream liberal press. There was an historice election in a now free Iraq. What did you get from the news headlines…..winter storm reports and the liberal NYTimes compromising national security by telling the terrororists that the Pres authorized monitoring of interanational communications. NOTHING about Iraq. So you knuckleheads get played by the mainstream press, meanwhile I get the real scoop from blogs. Since you stated you were a news journalist, there’s more reason for me to question your motives here.

    >>To begin with I’d like to know where this liberal news report is. Face it, news doesn’t’ care about you, it doesn’t care about me. It cares about money. There is no news any more. It is all hype and it goes to the highest bidder. If there is a liberal president all the hype will be liberal. Get real. That’s why I told you READ. NEWS FLASH. What goes down in print will be history, not what is on TV or Radio. I used to work in the news industry for TV. I was a journalist. TV News is an entertainment market. Think of the catch phrases used in news. “If it bleeds it leads” “If it dies it flies” “violence sells” You can that responsible news?

    Thank you for making my point. Ever hear of all the good things we have done for Iraq and Afghanistan? No, nothing but doom, gloom, and body counts. The mainstream media bias against America is woefully transparent to the average viewer. That’s why Fox is gaining share. Thanks again Fool.

    >>You can share my arsenal of weapons if we ever get attacked. I am friends with both liberals and conservative views but I don’t address them as such nor do I hate either one. I take issue on views WHEN we talk of it. I know many liberal that own weapons. That is not only our right it is our responsibility. We are asking 16 and 19 year olds to die. We should be willing to die for our cause also instead of hiding behind the military to “Save us, ewww, ooo, save us.” I will say that I know conservative people who are against them and she hates being classified with the liberals’ thank you.

    Again with the weapons. I noticed you mentioned earlier that your friends have the weapons. So WHERE DO I GO to get a weapon after your Democratic party is finally successful in banning them? Huh? This is what many tryannical despots do to enslave a nation? Does Saddam Hussein ring a bell? You ARE a fool. And a dangerous one at that. BTW, why don’t you read the US Constitution. ARTICLE 1, Section 8. A military force is what protects this nation and keeps us free. Is this so hard to understand or do I need to send you a SchoolHouse Rocks DVD.

    >>If you just had one thought in this country (liberal/conservative, choose one) we would not have a freethinking America. I’m glad there are two or more sides. It’s part of our checks and balances and it works and has worked for over 200 years. Remember, Saddam excuted freethinkers. Is that what you want?

    You are insane!! I never said anything about EXECUTING (get the f-ing spelling right) ANYBODY!!!!. I just think your way of thinking is wrong and endangers my way of life. That’s it. I have every right to do so. Moron.

    >>I’m not afraid of being wrong and to that I must say that I have to retract what I said about not being the first to mention Michael Moore. I was late last night when I posted and I did not re read my original post. But that was in response to a quote and I didn’t remember thinking Michael Moore. My Bad. But I still stick to the notion that Michael Moore is not how all Americans’ should think nor is it the way all liberals’ think. I’m not saying Michael Moore is wrong. I’m saying is points are interesting.

    Yup. You’re a moron.

    >>But I can also admit another mistake. I voted for Bush and I find myself sorry for having done so. Right now we find ourselves in the worst economy because of this mistake. We believed in him. Which comes to another point. Not all that voted for Bush are happy with him.

    Worst economy? Where did you get this new? Let me guess, the liberal media. The economy is kicking ass right now, mainly due to the tax cuts that Pres Bush enacted a couple years ago. Look up the unemployment rate. Gosh, you’re an idiot.

    Continued…..in next post.

  63. Continued…..

    >>Remember Beta Max/VHS. Beta ran faster and faster produces better quality but VHS won out. Remember vinyl/Cassette. For a time cassette won out though vinyl gave fuller sound. Not better, more convenient. Now CD/MP3s. You don’t own MP3s for your information. You rent them. How about Mac/PC PC may not a better way to go but it is the most popular. Guess what? Popular doesn’t mean good. The two/two term for Bush is not an excuse to love him. Clinton won two terms too. Let’s love him. People are scared of change so they vote incumbent.

    WTF? I don’t LOVE Bush. I LOVE that he defends my free way of life. You and the Democrats don’t. I love Apple and the Mac because it’s the best computing platform. Simple. I have to add that you also mentioned earlier that I didn’t know anything about liberals. Well, let me inform you that I was born and raised in the Bronx, NY. NYC!!!! The mecca of liberal crap. I know what the F I speak of. Again, you’re a moron.

    >>And I agree this is all whining but I will not be back. This was all done on a dare. I was told that if I posted I would get posts I would not believe. I’m sorry people, he was right. Assumptions and hate driven protests is not a way to win an argument or to get a point across. You post these things here to incite anger and to those sucked into it you do accomplish just that. There are better things to get angry at and try to fix. Like I said. Love or hate, Bush is in for three more years. He neither needs your support (he’s done what he set out to do) nor your bashing (he’s painted his own corner, he’s a lame duck). Those are the facts kids.

    Typical liberal pap.

    >>TheMacDude, I don’t believe you believe anything you say. You are one of many people who take this as a video game and are more interested in arguing a point even if it is wrong just to see how many people you can get excited. I see that most people here don’t fall into that trap. It doesn’t work, give it up. Yeah I know, I did but like I said, I’m new at this and will not return. I’m not nor ever was interested in these kinds of posts.

    I had a feeling you were 14. This last paragraph reflects that.

    >>Aussie:
    >>If you really are from Australia I am embarrassed that you have to see this mindless hate because of a political view. You see from affar what people can’t see in the eye of the storm. Maybe we should all step back. Great Post

    Ask the Aussie if he appreciates Muslim rioters? You liberals will not only get yourselves killed but also me and my family. That’s why I vehemently disagree with you idiots. Like the Iraqi lady Betty Dishawa said, “Anybody that doesn’t appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell”

  64. I just have to say, liberals are the most gullible people on the planet as they can be easily convinced that good is evil.

    War for Oil? Hmmmm. if that was the case, why didn’t we take Kuwait’s oil when we liberated them from Saddam Hussein in Gulf War I?

    You liberal people will believe anything. Just another observation for you. Ever wonder why liberal judges always tend to release criminals that are a danger to society? Theses criminals usually go out and commit the same crimes. Gullible, gullible, gullible. They’re the ones that will believe the “dog ate my homework” alibis.

  65. “……I just have to say, liberals are the most gullible people on the planet as they can be easily convinced that good is evil. …”

    This is just insane …..

    Lemee ask you ….. just WHO are the gullible ones that voted for Bush ??

    This is the same guy who gave compitition a major setback when he decided to pad Cheneys wallet with those billion dollar no bid contracts to Halliburton ??…

    The same guy who promised Americans …. “…. And the people who knocked down these buildings will be hearing from us soon….”
    (NYC – several days after 9/11)

    Then proceeded to sit on his hands for 3 months while OBL and his Talaban friends… took off for the Afganastan hills… then, after 3 months .. send in only 11,000 troops who’s main mission was to install a puppet president (Karzai ) … who previously was a liaison for Unocal ….. (isnt THAT interesting ?)

    And to top it off … (Bush) pressured his underlings to …”Find a Saddam connection to 9/11″ … so he can justify his invasion / occupation of Iraq … !!

    And you think all of this is bunk ??? ….

    Oh…. I could cite many more incidents for you…. but why bother ? …

    you wear those horse-blinders very well !

    TheMacDude …. methinks it is YOU … who are the gullible one here !!

    I challenge you to justify any of the above …. if you can !

  66. I said I wasn’t going to come back but this deserves response. TheMacDude, I’m flattered. I made you so angry I got three different post from you. Thank you. And you call me an idiot. LOL.

  67. No, Mac Fool, it took that many posts to rebut your stupidity.

    BTW, you wankers that don’t believe in liberal media bias, try reading this 10 year independent study.

    http://www.newsroom.ucla.edu/page.asp?RelNum=6664

    “While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper’s news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left.”

    Read it and weep. I expect denial to run deep within the liberal posters here.

  68. mac dood — You are truly blind.

    Uber-Liberals see nothing wrong with their choices. They are unquestionable. Inviolate. If you dare challenge anything they say, you are branded as unsympathetic, uncaring, and worst of all, greedy.

    This is a far, far more insidious disease than exuberant patriotism because it feeds on the seemingly well-educated yet oblivious among us — those who can’t (or refuse to) discern that the feel-good bleatings genuinely do no good for the causes invoked, except to make the uber-liberal feel better about him or herself for taking some (misguided) action.

    They rail against energy waste whilst insisting on owning an SUV so their children are “safe” on the roads. They bemoan tax cuts because they’ll “hurt the schools” yet they’d never consider cutting the bloat that is the NEA or even their local or regional administrative morass. But perhaps most telling, as a group they give far less than their conservative counterparts to genuine charity and benevolent organizations that utilize donated funds to actually reach the disaffected. Better to occasionally write a $10 check to the Sierra Club to assuage feelings of guilt whilst living in a wood-frame house and buying refrigerators full of food containers made of plastic.

  69. Perpetual Motion…

    “……mac dood — You are truly blind….”

    On the one hand, you dismiss me as being “blind”… and on the other hand you go off on some diatribe… using nothing but stereotypical metaphors, for some “Uber-Liberals” who may.. or may not even exist in the world !

    Is this the kind of tactic Fox News-watching, pro Bush people use to evade questions they would rather not answer ??

    You never addressed one single point in my previous post !

    Instead, you would much rather carry on the doctrine of attacking the point of view of at least 49% of the people of our country ….
    Is this the true American Way ?

    Fact is…. our country was founded on a free exchange of ideas …. lest you forget … and both sides of the asile.. have valid ideas to bring to the table !

    But, from what I see…. the pro Bush people, refuse to even acknowledge this …

    So… WHO .. is blind ?

    And… to refute you on a couple of your points ….

    I have never owned an SUV …. all my kids survived just fine riding in a 6-cylinder sedan …
    Yes, my house is wood framed … uhhhh … is there any other kind ?
    I have never written a check to the Sierra Club …and my fridge DOES have some plastic containers inside … but I’d be willing to bet… yours does too !!

  70. “I have never owned an SUV …. all my kids survived just fine riding in a 6-cylinder sedan …”

    Bully for you.

    “Yes, my house is wood framed … uhhhh … is there any other kind ?”

    Kind of nearsighted there, eh? There are MANY other building methods — full brick, metal frame, insulated concrete form, straw bale, concrete, etc. Who’s mypoic now?

    “I have never written a check to the Sierra Club …and my fridge DOES have some plastic containers inside … but I’d be willing to bet… yours does too !!”

    Yah, but I don’t complain about the environment so much with every other breath like uber-lib’s.

  71. “….Kind of nearsighted there, eh? There are MANY other building methods — full brick, metal frame, insulated concrete form, straw bale, concrete, etc. Who’s mypoic now?..”

    Yes, and the Indians used deer skins for their teepees, too !
    But what does this have to do with building standards in different parts of the country ?

    For example … You wouldnt want to use brick to build a house anywhere near the part of the country which suffers from earthquakes… but brick is great for houses built in tornado alley !!

    Fact is… for most purposes ’round the country, wood framing is the standard for construction… or… I guess you just like to pick nits, huh ?

    “….Yah, but I don’t complain about the environment so much with every other breath like uber-lib’s….”

    Where have I complained about the environment ?? …. You still are evading the more important points I have raised here, by using the old “bait and switch” method …

    You seem to think that if you rail against the “Uber-Liberals” long enough… the points I have raised here will magically go away !!

    “Myopia” must be your middle name !!

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