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Sep 30, 09 - 03:20 pm Comment from: Macdoc

"Pre" was such a Gay name..

I played with the Pre and it does a lot of cool stuff right. I think it's a damn shame to hear people are losing their jobs..

/lost my job back in may

//freelancing FTW

Sep 30, 09 - 03:28 pm Comment from: Anonymous©

Wow, 11 weeks, that's almost a whole quarter's worth of inventory. That's almost what I would consider channel-stuffing.

And for those who want to know about Apple, they typically keep 4 to 6 weeks of inventory in the channel, and they update the analysts on inventory levels each and every conference call.

Sep 30, 09 - 03:34 pm Comment from: Jersey_Trader

Sorry, but the people at Palm should have been looking for a new job long ago. This battle was lost to Apple long ago. Those that think differently are delusional.

The difference in applications for the iPhone and iPod touch (and soon the Mac tablet) is about 1,000 to 1 for other (almost) smart phones. With a much smaller spread, Microsoft Windows took market share from Apples Mac 15 years ago.

Apple is now on to the book and magazine market. What market will be next?

This article is not completely fair because Palm is probably letting Windows Mobile programmers & designers go. Nevertheless, Palm is still nothing more than acquisition bait, probably for either Nokia or RIM.

@Jersey_Trader: Palm was losing the smartphone battle long before the iPhone came out; as MDN so often says, they've been "running on fumes" for years.

Sep 30, 09 - 03:45 pm Comment from: Jersey_Trader

Did you all read the number 1 and 2 positions in the AdMob stats. http://www.macrumors.com/

"When all types of 'handsets' are included, Apple's iPod touch grabs the second spot behind its iPhone sibling. While not a mobile phone, the iPod touch is included in the survey because it runs the iPhone OS and accesses the same content being served to smartphones and other handsets."

Why would any programer develop apps for any other device?

Sep 30, 09 - 04:42 pm Comment from: MDmac

@ Macdoc We don't really need that kind of juvenile crap here!

Sep 30, 09 - 04:56 pm Comment from: qka

So is Bono selling off his stake?

Hypocritical fsck probably needs the loss as a tax dodge.

Honestly, I hate these articles on MacDailyNews, there is nothing more pathetic than sneering at people losing their jobs, you do nothing but reinforce the idea of Mac users as condescending, patronising fanboys, you don't need to do this.

GhostCop: Normally I agree; but Palm is getting slammed on merit.

That's right Palm. Fire the workerbees for the foolishness of the wannabees.

@ MDmac

Anything you need to tell us?

Sep 30, 09 - 07:31 pm Comment from: jambo

I think it was impossible for Palm to compete. Apple has a very specific Jobs quality mindset that is ingrained into the culture. It starts at the top and runs to the bottom.

Palm is trying to be Apple, but because that fanatical mindset is not ingrained into the culture, their products will end up as wanna-be's. At this point, they are shipping a product to meet marketing's numbers, praying things will be OK.

They never had faith or confidence in their products, and the market has decided their fate.

Sep 30, 09 - 08:09 pm Comment from: NotYou

MDN, why don't you have a "schadenfreude" tag for all these posts that just ridicule or bash away on Apple competitors (and often just perceived competitors)? That way I could set up a feed that excludes posts with that tag, and then maybe I could spend more time reading actual Mac News, Daily. Of course, that custom feed would omit about 75% of your posts...

Sep 30, 09 - 08:10 pm Comment from: NotYou

And do you have a macro set up so that you don't have to type the word "beleaguered" 20 times a day? I hope you do. It'd save you quite a bit of time.

Sep 30, 09 - 09:03 pm Comment from: alansky

But I thought the Palm Pre was going to demolish the iPhone and usher in a brand new day for Palm shareholders...

What happened? :-(

Sep 30, 09 - 09:09 pm Comment from: alansky

@NotYou:

You obviously don't understand how richly deserved Palm's decline appears in the eyes of the Apple faithful. You won't see MDN readers going off on RIM like this. And if you do see that, then those contributors are morons. There's intelligent competition, and then there's impotent, mean-spirited bluster. Take a wild guess at which of these two labels applies to Palm.

Is there any group of people more filled with hate and vitriol than Apple fan boys?

Sep 30, 09 - 10:40 pm Comment from: montex

B...b...b...b...but multitasking!

/standard reply on all Pre stories.

@ishkabibble.

You dont like it here, carry your whining ass

how mature X. Thank you for proving my point. Spectacular job.

But in the UK the BBC still describes it as an iPhone killer.

O2 must be reading this with alarm - and alerting their lawyers, because they take it on this month, probably the reason for Apple giving the iPhone to Orange and Vodacrapfone.

Ouch all round.

@ ishkabibble

You write: "Is there any group of people more filled with hate and vitriol than Apple fan boys?"

Yes indeed there are, Microsoft Windows community, Palm community, etc. who FOR YEARS have declared their utter contempt for everything Apple and its users.

A few barbs thrown at a smug, complacent, arrogant company like Palm is like nothing to what Apple users have been used to.

Where was the Mac desktop app for Palm when Palm was king of the hill? How different was the Mac "version" compared to the Windows full fledged full featured version?

Basically, things come back to roost, and we don't forget history in the computing industry.

Why else do we want MSFT dead? Dell too.

@ ghostcop2000 ; Agree.

Oct 01, 09 - 08:30 am Comment from: Think

History.
How quickly people forget. There are many companies that just despised Apple and left them alone or worse, said screw you! Well, times are a changin and any long time (15 or more years) Mac users know what kind of hate and scorn was heaped upon us over the years.
Much of it undeserved.

Just because we picked a platform that actually was better, PC users and the like just ripped us for being different. Very few actually educated themselves about the Mac, the ones that did, usually did an about face and were nice to Mac users. I still run into IT departments filled with these people. I can't wait until Windows dies and OS X moves into corporate world big time. Some of these guys I will laugh in their face when it happens.

I have no patience for closed minded people. In this industry you have to always learn and educate yourself much faster than any other industry. The lazy ass IT guys that don't, they deserve a pink slip.

Apply this lesson to Palm.

Wow! Imagine that! Apple misleading the public into thinking a competitive product is doing really bad! Who would have thought???

Get a life and stop posting negative and false information regarding Palm. It's obvious you didn't do your homework, or maybe you did but decided to word your article the way you did only to stir up anger in others.

Palm did state that they may let people go, but it's in the Windows Mobile department, not because of poor Pre sales. They're going to focus full force on webos.

You remind me of lawyers who twist words around to suit your agenda.

Do everyone a favor and just focus on your own world. Stop trying to smash others just because they're viable contenders in your arena. I'm not saying the Pre is any better than the iPhone, but all you apple fanboys have been posting nothing but negative reviews on the Pre just because you're worried it may compete. If the phone really meant nothing to you, why bother writing about it at all?

Hmm, I wonder how much money Palm has wasted on this iTunes sync court case. Surely it'd have been a lot cheaper for them to just write their own software.

Also, as a big Apple fan, (three Macs and an iPhone at home) I don't understand why so many Apple fanboys belittle Palm. Competition is good, and the Pre pushes Apple to improve the iPhone. It's good for us consumers.

Saying "oh but people have been giving Apple uses a hard time for years" is childish. Rise above that kind of school yard tactics people, and show a little class.

I hardly come to MDN these days because the fanboy comments are so negative.