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Report: Early Microsoft Longhorn beta slips
Friday, February 18, 2005 - 10:37 AM EST

"Looks like the Longhorn client code that Microsoft will likely release at its Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC) in very late April in Seattle will be a "preview" (a k an alpha of Longhorn client). Will Microsoft still be able to deliver Beta 1 in the first half of this year? We're skeptical," Mary Jo Foley reports for Microsoft Watch.

Foley predicts the release of the first beta of Longhorn around the time of the Professional Developers Conference this coming September.

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Working for "Microsoft Watch" has got to be what the Devil created especially for "Apple Watchers" who fail to atone. Shudder! Lately, watching Microsoft has to seem like watching a Mack Sennett movie.

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Feb 18, 05 - 10:58 am Comment from: DakRoland

Microsoft = Keystone Cops...

I like it! It works!

Feb 18, 05 - 10:59 am Comment from: John

Slip sliding away. Isn't that a song by Paul Simon.
Very appropriate for Microsoft and Longhorn AKA stubby now. Basicly an XP update nothing else so I don't know why there having so much trouble.
That's why I'm glad I use a Mac. Tiger here we come.

Feb 18, 05 - 11:04 am Comment from: Buffy

It slipped because they thought Apple was gonna release Tiger by now. With nothing new to copy, they have nothing new to write! Hell, they have already taken out all the "new and innovative" features, what exactly are they doing? Cant they just send all their developers a Copy of XP for the longhorn beta? Ad a couple of new background artwork and new icons and WHAM, Longhorn

Feb 18, 05 - 11:06 am Comment from: Buffy

Lets change the name again Longhorn = stillborn

Feb 18, 05 - 11:10 am Comment from: Al

I hear the XBox is a hot product for Microsoft right now.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

C'mon Billy, light my fire.

Feb 18, 05 - 11:18 am Comment from: maczac

Does anyone have a outline/timeline of Longhorn, meaning from first announcement and features to slipping release dates and removal of features. It would make for a good laugh right about now.

Feb 18, 05 - 11:18 am Comment from: ABQ Peter

maybe they will have to rename WinHEC to WinHELL.

Feb 18, 05 - 11:21 am Comment from: Jimbo von Winskinheimer

Wow! When I first read the headline, I thought it said "ships" instead of "slips". Imagine my shock. Once I focused the eyes a bit, it all made sense. I thought to myself, "This is not news."

My magic word is "try". That is the word MS should use. We will "try" to get Longhorn out sometime before the end of the decade.

Feb 18, 05 - 11:23 am Comment from: Jack A

"Sennett's films, rarely more than one or two reels long, were slapstick comedies noted for their fantastic chases and custard pie warfare."

Seems to me I saw Bill Gates starring in one of Mack's custard pie warfare flicks.

Feb 18, 05 - 11:25 am Comment from: NoMacForYou

Glorious Longhorn will make Tiger look like a *&@!£% kitten. You are all %&* and you should be "!&*@ thankful Bill Gates and Microsoft invented the PC and innovated everything in personal computing without which there would be no 0.1% Mac market share.

Feb 18, 05 - 11:29 am Comment from: Don.

Buffy: No offense but I've heard your sort of comment a lot and... ya know I'm really sure that MS has at least ONE developer with a subscription to Apple's dev program, considering they make Office on the Mac, etc... so they already DO have copies of Tiger, and the devs already know what's included in it. No reason to wait til it ships to copy, they can go right on ahead right now. Unless you're suggesting that they are still keeping new features hidden that will be added after the Betas are done? Possible buggy landmines there, better to have the devs testing all that stuff right now.

Feb 18, 05 - 11:36 am Comment from: Less is More

Oh no! A security audit of Longhorn failed and it can't be released even in its hobbled XP+ state. It's gonna be a Windows 98+. And it'll still leak.

Feb 18, 05 - 12:01 pm Comment from: java

it is like waiting for Godot

Feb 18, 05 - 12:12 pm Comment from: AL

Didn't MS announce XP SP2 will be out this summer?

Isn't Longhorn just XP SP2?

or is it SP3 now?

Feb 18, 05 - 12:16 pm Comment from: Buffy

All those company ITs that suggested buying into the MS guarentee upgrade program are all looking REAL smart right now, a real money saver

Feb 18, 05 - 12:32 pm Comment from: BSOD

AL: Bonghose is XP SP2.1

Feb 18, 05 - 01:09 pm Comment from: Jim S.

WinHEC must mean "Win the HEC is this thing going to be released?!"

Feb 18, 05 - 01:49 pm Comment from: BSOD

Longhorn Milestone 9 (M9) and platform complete
March 2005

Longhorn Beta 1
Late May 2005

Longhorn Beta 2
October 2005

Longhorn Release Candidate 0 (RC0)
Late February 2006

Longhorn Release Candidate 1 (RC1)
April 2006

Longhorn release to manufacturing (RTM)
May 24, 2006

Feb 18, 05 - 02:17 pm Comment from: NoMacForYou

Looks like BSOD is the real Wintel fanboy.

Feb 18, 05 - 02:25 pm Comment from: BSOD

What are those last few posts about?

Can MDN please implement a simple login validation procedure? I've used Expression Engine before, so I know it's a very simple parameter to set. This would eliminate the anonymous posting as other people and make the comments section much more relevant and digestable.

Thanks.

(And as a side benefit it might ward off the child-trolls like NoMacForYou, Ben, lisa, ron, etc.) Where is Sputnik when you need him???

Feb 18, 05 - 02:44 pm Comment from: BuriedCaesar

BSOD - wasn't the question from MacZac more along the lines of when did M$ FIRST ANNOUNCE that they were working on Longhorn, and officially gave it that name? (Sorta like when OS X was first announced, and then it took a few years before we even saw the beta release - our own personal hell, that - but not anymore!)

Feb 18, 05 - 02:58 pm Comment from: jfbiii

But they're releasing a new Longhorn "Slips For Sure" logo and ad campaign next week.

Feb 18, 05 - 03:35 pm Comment from: Artisticulated

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Feb 18, 05 - 03:38 pm Comment from: mike

Ehm.. we already know that the actual longhorn, ie all the stuff they said would be in it.. will be LONG after 2006... they announced they were delaying a few features (how innovative) to be 'plugged-in' later.

In other words, snip snip.. this cow's getting neutered as we speak.

Feb 18, 05 - 04:17 pm Comment from: b

by the time they release Longhorn, it should be called XP super security patch, because that's how it's going to differ from XP.

Feb 18, 05 - 07:37 pm Comment from: MacEdge

Buffy wrote:

"Hell, they have already taken out all the "new and innovative" features, what exactly are they doing?"

Good question. Perhaps selling stock and brushing up resume's?

"Cant they just send all their developers a Copy of XP for the longhorn beta? Ad a couple of new background artwork and new icons and WHAM, Longhorn"

That's what's causing the delay. MS can't even do a simple brush-up.

Longhorn. WHERE'S THE BEEF?!?

Feb 18, 05 - 08:58 pm Comment from: NoMacForYou

MacEdge: Longhorn. WHERE'S THE BEEF?!?

I got your "beef" right here.

Feb 19, 05 - 10:39 pm Comment from: Tempus Fugit

Longhorn=vaporware

the entire computer community should be giving MS hell right about now. XP is a security nightmare, SP2 (SuperPatch2) caused nearly as many problems as it was supposed to solve and XP is STILL getting breached, Longhorn has had several delays and by the time it's released it wont be anywhere near the OS they promised and the company, instead of PROVING that with their thousands of programmers they can create a better OS resorts to smear tactics against the open source community. why more people and companies don't just switch over to any or all of the Unix flavors is just beyond me.

Feb 20, 05 - 04:32 pm Comment from: toolazytotell

Heres a few things I could find about LongWaits history

Build 3683 – Leaked Nov 19 /02
Build 4008 – Leaked Feb 28 /03
Build 4015 – Leaked April /03
Build 4029 – Leaked Sept 23 /03
Build 4051 – Leaked Oct 25 /03
Build 4053 – Leaked March 1 /04
Build 4074 – Leaked May 4 /04

Feb 20, 05 - 04:44 pm Comment from: toolazytotell

One of the really fun things to read is the recommended "avergae" config for a LongHorn PC http://windows.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,1995,1581842,00.asp

Microsoft is expected to recommend that the "average" Longhorn PC feature a dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit, built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times faster than those on the market today.


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