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Jan 07, 08 - 03:17 pm Comment from: AAPL

me kick their ass now

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Jan 07, 08 - 03:19 pm Comment from: deepdish

it is things like this that really make me hate microsoft.

Jan 07, 08 - 03:23 pm Comment from: loganson

scumbags

Pathetic. Can we all play that Ballmer video in which he says the iPhone will fail because it lacks a keyboard? Gosh gee look here, the copy cat W7 will use a virtual keyboard also. First he throws out FUD to scare people, then they copy the iPhone. LOL... Pathetic.

Jan 07, 08 - 03:25 pm Comment from: January 24, 1984

Wouldn't it be great if MSFT could just innovate - say develop a flawless voice actuation interface.

Can you imagine that abortion?

Jan 07, 08 - 03:25 pm Comment from: Ampar

Entire transcript of Ballmer's recent private meeting on Microsoft's innovation strategy:

Assistant: "We're out of toner."
Ballmer: "Should we buy a copier company?"
Assistant: "Or we could just order more toner."
Ballmer: "Huh. O.K. Here's $14 million. There's an Office Depot on 24th. And bring me a few dozen doughnuts and a tongue scraper while you're out."

Jan 07, 08 - 03:28 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

THEFT. It's what Microsoft does best!

This is ridiculous! They copied details right down to the .?123 button and the letter overlays over the keyboard button when you press it.

This looks just like the iPhone, only ofcourse, much uglier.

Can't say I didn't expect to see this.

That said, I can't wait to see how Ballmer is going to try to sell a device without a physical keyboard after everything he has said about the iPhone. What a joke the man is.

The good news is, there is no way they will be able to make this thing half as elegant and easy to use as the first generation iPhone is. And by the time they get it out the door, chances are we'll all have third generation iPhones in our pockets.

--mAc

PS: Apple, do the world a favor and sue them into the stone age.

Jan 07, 08 - 03:32 pm Comment from: jtsnyc47

The image in the center takes the cake. How do you exactly replicate prominent features of an Apple product like that - right down to the key callout?! It's not taking the concept and advancing it - it's flat out stealing it! Either the MS PR machine is broken or they're really so pathetic as not even TRY glossing over the fact that they're thieves.

When will Windows Mobile 7 be released? 2010???

Jan 07, 08 - 03:35 pm Comment from: MaLvado

This ticks me off.
Unbelievable how people continue to support such a weak company that only has a lot of money to throw at any market.

Jan 07, 08 - 03:36 pm Comment from: Ampar

Is that last image just highlighting or copy and paste?

Jan 07, 08 - 03:37 pm Comment from: Macromancer

This guy is the richest moron in the history of the world.

Jan 07, 08 - 03:39 pm Comment from: Madmax

Again M$ are planning to copy Apple; but also to cover all the possible hardware designs from Nokia, Sony et al - be it keys, touch-screen or stylus.

It is therefore going to be a long time coming, and lump of bloat-ware when it gets here.

If this is true then Apple should sue the pants off of Microsoft.

I'll never understand why MS insists on putting the Cancel button on the right side! Look there: Send / Cancel. Isn't it natural to reach for the right side by default? It is for me, but I've seen Windows users tend to expect the Cancel button there, strange.

It's wrong to say that Apple innovates and Microsoft copies. Both of them copies. They are no inventors...

Apple usually sees the opportunity of something and launch it in a fashinable way, and then Microsoft enters the game.

Nowadays, Microsoft tends to enter the game very very late (e.g. Vista), that's why I was asking "When will Windows Mobile 7 be released? 2010???"

Jan 07, 08 - 03:44 pm Comment from: Ampar

"If this is true then Apple should sue the pants off of Microsoft."

I'd go for their wallets and let them keep their clothes.

Maybe they should wait a week or two and see what Apple has at the Macworld show THEN begin the copying process. I hope that Jobs and the cadre of legal sharks are circling this new MS abortion.

Uncle Fester is such an idiot!

"Windows Mobile 7 will ship in 2009, according to the document."

So, as long as Apple sits completely still instead of putting out a 2Gen and 3Gen iPhone, Microsoft should be pretty much caught up.

Jan 07, 08 - 03:48 pm Comment from: JAYGEE

Microsoft wont fool the people with this. Most PC users haven't seen or used a Mac, so they can fool people with there Windows copies, but people won't be fooled with the iPhone copied WinMobile7.

Jan 07, 08 - 03:57 pm Comment from: Shinobi

It will be interesting to see what Steve Jobs does about this....

Jan 07, 08 - 03:57 pm Comment from: treestman

I think this is just classic Microsoft FUD, though I don't believe it works as well as it used to 10 years ago.

I wrote about it yesterday:

Screw Apple iPhone, Just Wait Until Windows Mobile 7.0!!

Though not an expert, I do have some background in this area and I saw nothing in the article that appears to violate Apple's patents. These phones will available from many companies and providers. They will probably be subsidized. Apple has its work cut out for it to stay ahead in this market.

Come On Microshit invent something new not copy others inventions..

Jan 07, 08 - 04:01 pm Comment from: Micro Me

Good old Microsoft.

iSaw, iPhone, iCopied.

Jan 07, 08 - 04:06 pm Comment from: untergeek

Have you read the article?! This is hysterical!

Imagine seeing someone somewhere in a store "shaking" their cell phone to "wake it up." It will appear as though their phone is broken! They'll look like complete idiots. Shake it to one side or the other to skip tracks. People using this interface will seem like total fools to everyone else around them. It's like the "etch-a-sketch" phone. Imagine trying to listen to music while grooving like the old iPod commercials - how many times would you have changed tracks? Or jogging with the phone anywhere other than a "dark" location to prevent the always-on camera from seeing.

Battery life will be dismal with an "always-on" camera, not to mention some courageous hacker out there will find some way to tap into these phones via some vulnerability and watch what they're doing. Even if that were impossible (though I won't say it is likely), the "big-brother" feel to having an always on camera may turn people off by itself. I think the camera idea is MS's way to bypass some of Apple's more ingenious patents (otherwise they'd copy with the "gyroscopes") to achieve a similar, however inferior, effect.

This looks like the clown interface of years to come. When the etch-a-sketchies shake their devices and appear like they're trying to fix broken machines, it will even lend the appearance to others of the product being inferior, just by seeing it be shaken, or have a need to be shaken. It's the new baby-rattle!

What a joke! Only Microsoft could think that people would actually find this UI design desirable.

"...shaking the phone left or right to go to the previous or next song or photo, and shaking the phone in order to shuffle it..."

Imagine, you walk with your ZunePhone and you tunes are skipping because you have it on your arm which is in motion when you run.
How annoying. They are trying to do something original but just can't grasp it.

Open your "Patents" folder Stevee.

Just took a look at the images.

It's SICKENING, it really is.

MW: Fact

Jan 07, 08 - 04:12 pm Comment from: Grigori

Who wants to bet that it's NOT multi-touch?

Who cares about microsoft Apple has absolutly nothing to fear. By the time this actually comes out iPhone will have captured everyone's TOTAL attention. MS will self implode. Here's a OK phone but oh wait our OS is really unstable to use it properly and crashes all the time and you will have to answer a bunch of silly questions to sync it. MS will fall also cause they've refuse to build their hardware and match the right peices to make it work flawlessly. I am sure they will highly upset phone makers if they decide to build there own brand of phone instead of just supplying the software. Let them tumble down further and further.

Jan 07, 08 - 04:16 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

The interface looks bold, refreshing and new! Fantastic work again, Redmond! Needs more buttons, but otherwise, great job.

Cupertino, start your copiers!

Your potential. Our passion.2

Me Too! Me Too!

"What, no tiny plastic-buttoned keyboard, Uncle Fester?"

I am sure that they can glue a keyboard on the bottom of the phone, I have seen a number of phones that have a slideout or flip over keyboard, but if they forgo the keyboard, it will the you-tube video of all time. "but with out a keyboard, it will not be very good business machine:"......." and the new MS lite 7 introduces the ground breaking idea of a "no keyboard" keyboard.!! An MS invention.

en

Jan 07, 08 - 04:27 pm Comment from: Eric

@deepdish...

What, EVERYTHING else Microsoft has EVER done wasn't bad enough?

It should be really obvious to everyone that those screen shots on the linked page are fake.

Jan 07, 08 - 04:34 pm Comment from: cptnkirk

three things:

first, this is a paper document. no device is presented. it could all be photoshop. And especially, it is probably just vaporware.

second, it won't appear before 2009 and that year has 12 months like all the rest. where will iPhone be in two years. Apple has already had a year to plot changes and additions to the iPhone. with the upcoming sdk we will see amazing things.

third, there is no WM7 and no device it would work on. can you see any version of Office fitting on any current phone?

this is a blocking move by M$ only. they can't do it and make it work.

Jan 07, 08 - 04:35 pm Comment from: smackman

You know what. MDN makes a great point here. This may be the moment in history soon where Apple gets to sue Microsoft and take them down hard over a patent dispute.

One can only dream!

Oh I see the geniuses are taking a lot of time off their bars to post here. Stevei would be so proud of you.

Jan 07, 08 - 04:38 pm Comment from: Zuno the Clown

Where are the ads? We want more ads!

Jan 07, 08 - 04:38 pm Comment from: ericdano

Ah, Zune Tang. Apple, start your copiers. That was priceless.

Seriously though, what does this say about Microsoft? I guess this is why their stock is stuck in the $30 range.

Bill: Steve…how do we put the brakes on this iPhone juggernaut?

Steve B.: Bill…I gotta tell you; I've got this one figured out. All we need is Photoshop and and some distance shots of our big ass table, and we can stop that iPhone in its tracks! Then add a snappy name, like Windows Mobile 7! Piece of cake!

Jan 07, 08 - 04:39 pm Comment from: Mac George

Zune Tang: RIGHT ON! You're in total agreement with Paul ThurrROT who thinks the iphone is good, but needs more buttons. I think the iPhones good but there are NO utilities for defragmenting RAM! MS will cum in and fill these voidz with their squirting technology and superior application naming structures!

Hey, it just occured to me that this whole thing is a fake. It may be that Microsoft is leaking this as either FUD / vaporware or as a way to keep Apple from knowing what it is doing, but I don't think we will ever see this from MIcrosoft.

After some thought, who else thinks that this is TOTAL Vaporware??

en

Jan 07, 08 - 04:42 pm Comment from: Jim

Suck it Microsoft. I can't wait to watch you get sued up, down, left, right, and sideways by Apple.

Jan 07, 08 - 04:44 pm Comment from: Demon

I know Steve pisses MS off every year that he puts up the 'Redmond time to fire-up your copiers' banners at Mac World.
Microsoft as a company does not innovate they create cheap knock-offs. Windows is a knock-off of the MacOS, the Zune is a cheap knock-off of the iPod, The Xbox is a knock-off of the PlayStation. Then MS had to buy and hold Bungie (a Mac Game Developer) hostage to make the XBox cool and successfully. Bungie had so, much influence in the XBox OS that MS had to cut them loose because Bungie want the MS Engineers to be innovative and design a better game system and the rub within MS got to hot. Halo after all was designed and written for the Mac and was almost complete before MS purchased them and MS made them put Halo for the Mac on ice, till after they released the XBox, then Windows and finally the Mac version.
Sources tell me that Free Bungie is now working on a new Mac Game that will blow Halo out of the water.

Jan 07, 08 - 04:52 pm Comment from: dd

Pathetic. And again, the world will foolishly believe Bill Gates thought it all up. But hey, it runs Windows. Visual Viruses. Visual Voicemail. What's the difference?

Jan 07, 08 - 04:54 pm Comment from: HotinPlaya

You should read the comments at the bottom of the 2nd MDN link article, these people think MS can do no wrong,