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May 12, 08 - 03:41 pm Comment from: Macintosh

The BlackBerry? What's that? Oh... That old phone with the keyboard... I remember those.

May 12, 08 - 03:44 pm Comment from: Jay-Z

I told my friend last week that her insistence that her Curve was better than my iPhone was comparable to my grandfather insisting his percolator was better than my parents' coffee maker.

May 12, 08 - 03:49 pm Comment from: Predrag

Or my father insisting that his old home AM radio has better sound than my tiny Bose speakers...

RIMM was a good ride while it laster. Time to transfer to the express.

Scott Moritz is still a numbnut.

"RIM's BlackBerry is in for a bruising"

Shhhhh, don't tell Crazylegs.

Actually a percolator is a superior method of brewing coffee. But you wouldn't know that because you apparently think newer = better?

May 12, 08 - 04:05 pm Comment from: Cubert

Seeing RIM and bruising in the title just made me bust out laughing. If there is bruising, you are doing it too hard.

"Due to delays first reported by Fortune, the dazzling BlackBerry Bold will not be available in the United States until as late as August. This means Apple will beat RIM to the market in June with its 3G iPhone,"

How many years head start did RIM have to do this? And to think of all the criticism that Apple got for not being 3G to begin with.

And since when is any BlackBerry "dazzling"?

May 12, 08 - 04:07 pm Comment from: Cubert

raskol,
You're right about percolators. My grandmother's from the 1950's beats any modern coffee maker.

May 12, 08 - 04:08 pm Comment from: joey

@raskol - Really!

May 12, 08 - 04:09 pm Comment from: Demon

CrackBerries are just wireless email devices with cell phone ablities or a better example would be the old Motorola two way pagers with a cell phone option.

What the hell kind of name is Bold? Shouldn't they have called it the BlackBerry Pi?

May 12, 08 - 04:12 pm Comment from: Spark

Oh you raskol. I'll take my drip coffee maker over a percolator any day.

The beauty of this article is in its style – using terms like "preach," "faithful," "flock," "followers," "sect members, " and "excommunication" – themes typically reserved to paint Apple as the Scientology of tech.

May 12, 08 - 04:15 pm Comment from: January 24, 1984

Is it time to short RIMM?

I would be very bold to release a Blackerry BOLD unless it could at least equal a version 1 iPhone.
Version 2 will already be tested by that time...let's hope for the company that they have something up their sleeve. I regret it, but after what happened today, their move into China is not going to be that profitable...again...hope they have something because the loyal cult of Blackberry customers is going to compare it to the iPhone 2.

May 12, 08 - 04:21 pm Comment from: Shinobi

blackberry is about to get a black eye!

@raskol

I prefer the French press - for coffee that is...

May 12, 08 - 04:24 pm Comment from: Jay-Z

@ raskol

My father used said percolator when he lived at home 40 years ago, and he prefers his current coffee maker.

May 12, 08 - 04:27 pm Comment from: Jay-Z

I hope this precipitates usable VPN software for the Mac. Either Cisco can't write it, or my IT department can't figure out how to use it. All I know is that I'm stuck with the completely intolerable Outlook web email when I'm out of the office.

I loved my blackberry, until I switched off sprint to at&t;and bought an iPhone.

I always referred to my blackberry as my cell phone. I always refer to my iPhone as my iPhone.

May 12, 08 - 04:54 pm Comment from: G4Dualie

Drip & percolate are the same process... liquid filtering down through ground coffee.

Mine's done when the spoon will stand in the middle! Oh and a good soaking with an overly ripe gym sock will do the trick too.

We used to snort Sanka in Nam.

May 12, 08 - 04:55 pm Comment from: Predrag

Jay-Z:

My money is on your incompetent IT department. I'm not sure what kind of configuration you have at work, but my IT dep't had no problem giving me settings and my Cisco VPN is working just fine. And so is our alternative VPN, CheckPoint. I had it working for years on a Mac (PowerBook, and now MacBook).

A keyboard...how quaint.

May 12, 08 - 05:50 pm Comment from: Spark

@G4Dualie
Drip and Perc the same? Please... The percolator cooks the coffee and squirts brewed coffee back through the used grounds over and over. Yuck!
Percolators are the Zunes of coffeemaking.

Frankly, I find the coffee thread more interesting than RIM's BOLD. RIM is a good product for those that need its specific talent. I am happy to let Blackberry users use and enjoy their phones. There is room for both, for now, although I think they are going to have trouble competing with Apple's iPhone plans.

May 12, 08 - 05:58 pm Comment from: Roberto

…Transparent Aluminum ?!?!?

May 12, 08 - 06:00 pm Comment from: Roberto

@ Montgomery Scott,

Tuned in HBO today, hmmmm?

But you Yanks wouldn't know good coffee if you were drowning in it. Drip filter, which you seem so fond of, is rubbish, instant is rubbish (especially Nescafe, Pablo and International Roast - Moccona will make do when absolutely desperate, like out camping) but a stove top coffee percolator makes a perfect full flavoured brew.

The best coffee, however comes from an espresso machine. Make mine a strong soy flat white to go thanks, no sugar.

Talk about originality. The dazzling Bold looks like my Motorola Q Global.

It is really strange that BlackBerry would make the design exactly like the iPhone - The thing that helped make BlackBerry popular was they made the device easy to hold when you type with your thumbs. This new design will be hard to hold like the iPhone. I have an iPhone and find it quite slippery and hard to hold without a case. I think that you will hear a lot of complaints about this on the the new Bold. Stupid to just copy the iPhone design.

Gosh, when you folks talk about RIM and the Blackberry, you would think that they have been double dealing Apple for years! Hatred drips from the comments. RIM has served a market that Apple and others have not for many years. It is to their credit.
That does not make them evil and deserving of the hateful venom being dealt out to them by the Apple fan boys.
Lighten up.

May 12, 08 - 08:03 pm Comment from: shen

"RIM has just unveiled the company’s "first 3G phone, the BlackBerry Bold,""

so the problem (some say) with the iPhone is that it isn't 3G..... despite several good reasons for it not to be.

but the wonderful crackberry isn't either? nice double standard from certain critics......

May 12, 08 - 08:18 pm Comment from: shen

"Gosh, when you folks talk about RIM and the Blackberry, you would think that they have been double dealing Apple for years! Hatred drips from the comments. RIM has served a market that Apple and others have not for many years. It is to their credit. "

some do, yes.

many of us are just tired of seeing companies like rim and ms that never do anything, never create, never change and never innovate, and yet they control the market.

lead, follow, or get the hell outta the way...

I'd have a better attitude towards Blackberry if their CEO would recognize the iPhone as a good competitor instead of acting like it doesn't even exist. M$ did that and look at things now.

The enterprise is still clutching the BlackBerry like a drunk in an alley clutches his last bottle of MD 20/20. The BlackBerry can be, but not always a complicated piece of gear to configure. The future of communications is not crammed with tons of settings and excessive code, BUT SIMPLICITY. I'm dumping my Verizon account as soon as iPhone 2.0 arrives.

@JoshtheiMacGuy

Shen is right. RIM had years to innovate and come up with something much better than what they have now. The same with companies like TiVo, Dell, Blockbuster, etc., all the companies that Apple is trouncing because they have failed to innovate.

I would not describe it as hate. More like frustration that more companies cannot innovate like Apple does.

One thing Apple needs to do, and they probably won't, is make an iPhone without a camera. One of the reasons why the government uses the Blackberry is that it does not have a camera. Cameras are not allowed onto most government facilities. The Blackberry is huge in the government and they are this country's largest employer.

May 12, 08 - 09:04 pm Comment from: Big Al

Business wants secure push e-mail.

RIM does secure push e-mail better than iPhone and RIM does it on every carrier.

Apple's iPhone will never match RIM's push e-mail, especially using the Microsoft Exchange solution.

Business has a choice. Many will continue to choose Blackberry.

There is room for tow strong choices. A competitive RIM can only make iPhone even better.

@ Black'n Blueberry,Glue or spotweld a piece of tin over or just grind the lens so as to make it unusable. This should suffice for any government security issue. Using the developers kit there should be some way to disable the camera function. Scratch up the lens with a pin, pour muriatic acid on the lens, paint it with any translucent or opaque substance...need I continue?

May 12, 08 - 11:16 pm Comment from: Crazylegs

comedy.

@bobchr

You have not considered several things. Destroying the lens would void the warranty. The government would never specify a camera enabled cell phone for it's people to use on a secured site. Destroying the lens to disable the camera simply is not acceptable enough for security either.

"The best coffee, however comes from an espresso machine. Make mine a strong soy flat white to go thanks, no sugar."

Personally, I think that as long as the coffee is really fresh, a percolator makes a fine cup of coffee.
But a French press is still the best.

@ Black 'n Blueberry and bobchr:

I'm sure if any government agency wanted a significant number of iPhones, Apple would be able to supply them without camera functions, even if that means special production without the camera hardware components installed.

All it means is that government employees would have to buy via government channels and not at your local Apple retail store.

...Can't compare phones, within or without an "i" with a coffee machine, because: some percolator's are still (and will forever) be better than some new dishwater machines sold todays...
What iPhone is concerned... it's all just a start. With 3G internal, it's gonna be a tidal wave!

Cubert you made me laugh! Much love

I was excited to get my blackberry curve (company phone) after having the palm treo 755..... I must say it was cool to have a thinner phone at first... but damn reception isn't as clear as the iphone and with the 20 that we have too many problems. Having to take out the battery and put it back in to fix the issues with it. And support.... haha there is none.. other than the data guy from at&t;who I stopped calling for help after finding out he just looks up issues in the blackberry forums........I'll be getting the iphone and cant wait to enjoy it's features.

May 13, 08 - 09:14 am Comment from: MacSheikh

More like "Blackberry's RIM Is In For A Bruising"! :-D

May 13, 08 - 10:41 am Comment from: Follower

"Not only will followers be tempted by new devices like Apple’s forthcoming business-friendly iPhone..."

Yes, I must say it is tempting...

RIM creamed? RIM Trimmed? RIM crimped? RIM shrimped!!!

Ah, yes... here come the iPhone fanboys!! Guess you washed away that bitter taste of overpaying (by a solid couple hundred bucks) for your phone with a nice, tall Apple-flavored Kool-Aid!!

What no one seems to want to mention is the fact that iPhone *dictates* your carrier be AT&T;- and don't talk to me about hacks... I need my phone to be *reliable*... something that AT&T;doesn't do.

Now, if iPhone allows you to choose your carrier, then we can talk. 'Til then, I'll be on my 8830.