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RUMOR: Apple to add SIRIUS Satellite Radio (and Howard Stern) to iPod in mid-2005
Friday, December 10, 2004 - 06:30 PM EST

"When XM Satellite Radio launched the MyFi on October 28, 2004 it was hailed as the world's first portable satellite radio. As soon as MyFi was announced I got to thinking about when the second portable satellite radio was going to arrive," Jason O'Grady writes for O'Grady's PowerPage.

"A source close to the PowerPage informed me last night that Apple has been meeting with Sirius Satellite Radio, the competitor to XM that recently signed Howard Stern, and that the pair is rumored to be developing a portable Sirius Satellite radio that could arrive in Apple's signature iPod form factor," O'Grady writes. "Spring or summer of 2005... Say hello to SatPod."

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Rumors. But, this would be quite a coup. The only real problem with our iPod is that we can't listen to Howard on it live. Other radio, too. On the go, how are iPod users supposed to hear new music? Or news? Or talk? Shouldn't it all be possible to do it on the iPod? Perhaps that issue will soon be fixed if this rumor turns out to be true. If so, XM executives can't be very happy. Howard Stern + iPod = XM Doom. Howard Stern is due to join SIRIUS on January 1, 2006.

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Dec 10, 04 - 06:45 pm Comment from: Jack A

Wow. APPL and SIRI are my two best performing stocks (although I don't have that much of either). If they team up I will probably be able to get the Mac of my choice if I can bring myself to sell. I don't think this will effect me in Japan though. Sirius is only US, right?

Lots of features could be added to the iPod but they are keeping it simple and it is working for them. Personally being a gadget freak I would like to have all the bells and whistles as long as they can keep the interface intuitive (and if anybody can, Apple can)

Dec 10, 04 - 06:48 pm Comment from: Carl Carlson

iit doesnt need to be satelite radio. regualr am/fm is good enough for me. and by good enough i mean free.

Dec 10, 04 - 07:05 pm Comment from: pkradd

Well, I thought the iPod and the music on it were a matter of choice and not something decided by others. Although, for some, it would be nice to have a built-in radio to listen to satellite programs, it's Sirius that provides the programming, not Apple, and you have no choice in what they offer. You have to pay a monthly fee to listen, so in the end this is just another form of subscription even if you can keep songs on your iPod. Eventually they'll be gone when you run out of room. Within the next couple of years terrestrial broadcasting will convert to digital to compete with the quality of satellite (it already has to a limited extent in some markets). And those broadcasts will be free, with no monthly costs.

Dec 10, 04 - 07:13 pm Comment from: atomic flower

terrestrial ones might not be free if digital... and can be scrambled... but interesting point.

Dec 10, 04 - 07:17 pm Comment from: imagine

Imagine a new iPod that also doubles as a detachable face plate for a Sirius radio in a car?

Dec 10, 04 - 07:22 pm Comment from: R

Wouldn't mind such a device, but not if it is a morphed iPod.

Swiss Army-type technology isn't the answer, but having task-specific devices does seem to jibe with Apple's overall philosphy...

"Oh, yeah, well my new 'CatheterPod' can..." Ok, sorry about that.

Dec 10, 04 - 07:40 pm Comment from: Tyk

pkradd: Of course you have a "choice" – don't buy the service. What's the big deal if Apple gives its users one more option for the iPod???

As for terrestrial stations converting, the beauty of satellite radio - which I have only as part of my Dish Network service - is that it is highly diverse and has NO commercials. Terrestrial stations can't compete with that. On satellite I can listen to all 80's metal; or progressive rock; or classic rock; or Elvis if I desire. Terrestrial radio just plays the same junk over and over and over again....

My guess is all this will be is an attachment that allows you to receive the satellite broadcast. I doubt it would be to download anything to the iPod itself....

Dec 10, 04 - 07:47 pm Comment from: cat person

Something like this will make all of the iPod "killers" with FM radios pale by comparison.

Dec 10, 04 - 08:06 pm Comment from: Frank

MDN...get with the current thinking...it will all be PodCasting. We don't need no satellite!
Read these two...
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1210/p12s03-stct.html
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/services/2004-12-10-podcasts_x.htm

Dec 10, 04 - 08:11 pm Comment from: Qman

Howard's been giving away iPod's and iPod Photo's this week too.

Dec 10, 04 - 08:41 pm Comment from: Joe McConnell

howard is to radio what springsteen is to music.


Suckers......................

Dec 10, 04 - 09:13 pm Comment from: Bennn

iPod, iPod, iPod zzzzzz

Dec 10, 04 - 09:56 pm Comment from: Critter

Why not change the name from MacDailyNews to iPodDailyNews.

Dec 10, 04 - 10:02 pm Comment from: Dave Hunwick

That would be killer!

Dec 10, 04 - 10:19 pm Comment from: mike

Critter.. read Fortune lately?

If you don't like imac stuff and you don't like ipod stuff..

Dec 10, 04 - 10:21 pm Comment from: yankees suck

wow wouldnt it be fantastic if you could access hundreds of digital music channels on your ipod... but why would you want do do this when you HAVE an ipod? youve got 10,000 songs in you pocket, who gives a crap about the 70s bluegrass channel? the best way to listen to the radio is still with a radio. and what is the difference listening to stern live or not? its a talk show.

i will never be a proponent of making the ipod a digital swiss army knife. keep it to music. and yes the ipod photo is acceptable because you can see album art and it has a color screen, the slide show stuff i do not care for.

screw subscription radio, and screw the yankees, arrrrrrr!

Dec 10, 04 - 10:23 pm Comment from: fandango

Critter,

Because this site is about Macs and *Mac-related* news.

There happens to be an emphasis on iPod related stories right now because that's what tens-of-thousands of people are buying right now, AND that is what most of the mainstream press is focused on.

When, because of their exposure to the iPod, more people start buying Macs, then we will see more and more stories about Macs and Mac-related apps.

At this point in time, the bread and butter for Apple is the iPod and this *can* be viewed as a very good thing. We all (Apple, Mac users, people who haven't *started* using a Mac yet) win because it makes Apple a stronger company. When a company is financially strong, there is less liklihood that it will shut down anytime soon.

For those of us who sweated through The Dark Days™ of 1992-96, when it looked as if Apple, as a company, would be disappearing (and when the press' favorite adjective for Apple was 'beleagured'), we understand what the iPod (and related stuff) is doing for Apple: it is bringing in large amounts of cash.

This is a GOOD thing for Apple, and for us. So, if you get tired of hearing about the iPod, just remember that that little device (that you're currently rolling your eyes at) is helping to make Apple a financially stronger company which will in turn allow Apple to create some kick-ass Macs and OS X applications in the future. When seen from this perspective, I think that we all could agree that, for right now, the iPod is 'A Very Good Thing™'.

Dec 10, 04 - 11:32 pm Comment from: Ian

iPod Satellite. Billions of songs in your pocket. wink

Dec 11, 04 - 12:41 am Comment from: me

Common people. be sirius.

Dec 11, 04 - 01:07 am Comment from: NoPCZone

Who needs a "subscription service" when you can have iTunes Radio? Mel Karmazian, one of the best and brightest to ever work in Media, is the new CEO of Sirius. Look out. I would imagine a Griffin Sirius Shark is coming and maybe an adapter for SkyTunes.

Dec 11, 04 - 02:10 am Comment from: Knock Knock

The Sirius subscription service will come with and only with .Mac. Don't underestimate Apple's willingness to control their users.

That said, I have .Mac and would find that such a service might justify the high price of .Mac.

Dec 11, 04 - 02:13 am Comment from: Knock Knock

Just one more thing: Don't mess witht he iPod brand. It'll be "iPod sirius" or "iPod live" or "iPod reloaded" or something along those lines. If they didn't do it with "miniPod" or "photoPod" then they certainly won't do it here.

Dec 11, 04 - 02:28 am Comment from: DBS

Might be an neat idea but I can't see the two companies together. may be an after market device.

Dec 11, 04 - 03:27 am Comment from: username

one word, PODCASTING, as i type, i am lestning to one.

Dec 11, 04 - 05:53 am Comment from: Fred

Doubt it would be satellite radio directly to an iPod. Why mess with the hardware "system". If anything, Sirius (paid subscription) through the current iTunes radio network. Adding iPodder type functionality to iTunes so you receive it as a PodCast. That expands the whole system, not just the iPod. If they are going to screw with hardware, I'd rather have WiFi.
Besides, radio is so "yesterday". If there is going to be a subscription involved, Apple would be better off adding it in just like the other services, they don't need no stinkin radio (satellite or not).

Dec 11, 04 - 06:24 am Comment from: Craigybaby

It seems totally unfeasable to do this. You are al forgetting that Sirius is ONLY available in the good ol' US of A so why would anyone outside America want this?

Most of the rest of the world uses DAB (Digital Audio Broadcasting) which is free if you have a DAB receiver and there are hundreds of channels each with programme listings/track names etc.

This seems a horrid idea, portable DAB units are tiny but expensive, Apple could easily build one of these into an iPOd. Let america play catch up for once...

Dec 11, 04 - 07:36 am Comment from: Howard Spurned

Horward Stern:

Radio for boys who think they are men....

Dec 11, 04 - 07:41 am Comment from: Mike S

Craigybaby has it in one. SIRIUS is a US thing. The iPod is a global product. More iPods are likely sold outside of the US than in the US, so doing this would be stupid.

Dec 11, 04 - 08:28 am Comment from: JohnE

I guess to kick off the new iPod Sirius feature there will have to be a branded iPod Howard Stern Edition...comes loaded with best of Stern.

Dec 11, 04 - 08:46 am Comment from: OxyMorons

"best of Stern..."

Very funny

Dec 11, 04 - 08:54 am Comment from: AntiLiberalLeft

Actually it is quite unlikely more iPods are sold outside the US than inside the US. Apple is a United States of America Corporation. Nuff said.

Dec 11, 04 - 09:13 am Comment from: Aryugaetu

I can't imagine this to be true for two huge reasons:

1. It is a subscription service. iTMS might as well go into the music subscription service itself, but Steve Jobs has already stated his distain for such an idea.

2. Size. Making an iPod bigger is counter-productive.

Just because you can glue two things together, doesn't always make it a good idea; as in computer+TV.

Dec 11, 04 - 09:16 am Comment from: Pimp Meye iPod

I am looking and asking around, but have yet to see or hear of one iPod buyer (who owns a PC) go buy an Apple computer.

Why aren´t the MDN Magic Words (below) something Apple related???

Dec 11, 04 - 10:47 am Comment from: Less is More

I guess they'll be called iPod-Serious; all ten of 'em.

Dec 11, 04 - 12:40 pm Comment from: twilightmoon

Pimp Meye iPod
I am looking and asking around, but have yet to see or hear of one iPod buyer (who owns a PC) go buy an Apple computer.

The Piper Jaffrey survey had it about 7% of iPod PC users switching, with about another 6% to 8% on the way. That would mean if those stats are accurate, you'd need to ask about 15 to 20 people to find one. Then again, their sample size was 10x that at 200, maybe not large enough for a highly accurate result, but they were looking for a trend I think more than a perfectly accurate result. Try asking 200 PC iPod users and come back and tell us your findings.

Why aren´t the MDN Magic Words (below) something Apple related???

An excellent idea, though sometimes it's nice to get a short word. I'd rather type "come" or "state" than "Powermac G5" because it's less typing.

Dec 11, 04 - 01:55 pm Comment from: Mike

I am looking and asking around, but have yet to see or hear of one iPod buyer (who owns a PC) go buy an Apple computer.

You've found one here. I was planning to get a Mac at some point anyway, but the iPod experience helped.

Dec 11, 04 - 04:19 pm Comment from: Lord Blorf

I don't understand the negative reaction here. There is ALREADY a range of iPods - minis, photo etc. Adding the (good name) SkyPod won't mean you can't get your flavor of choice. And while it wouldn't mean much internationally, there's quite a bit of money to be made in the North American market.

Dec 11, 04 - 09:05 pm Comment from: Less is More

Probaby paranoia that the iPod might lose its way Lord Blorf. Anyway, I wouldn't play mp3z on my phone; but I'd seriously consider an Apple phone.

Dec 11, 04 - 09:48 pm Comment from: sjk

Negative reactions? On MDN? wink

Dec 12, 04 - 02:09 am Comment from: Dan

Yup, turns out we Mac users are a passionate group!

Dec 12, 04 - 03:58 pm Comment from: zbrwgo

tho iPod is the greatest for storing the music you want to hear Sirus has far more music available than than iTunes you will hear music on Sirius you won't hear anywhere else and that iTunes doesn't own for downloading yet.... having them both together in one unit would be superb!

Dec 22, 04 - 05:08 pm Comment from: mathias stewart

tongue wink get stock in sirius if this happens stock will skyrocket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jan 03, 05 - 10:49 am Comment from: mike

u all sound like mommy and daddy pay for everything as it is so who cares about what it costs. and if that is not true buy the stock you will be able to afford it for the rest of your life so stop crying

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