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RUMOR: Apple to increase .Mac iDisk storage to 30GB
Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 01:53 PM EDT

"Apple is going to announce a storage upgrade on Macworld 2007," according to a post on Digg.

"In Windows, the iDisk storage capacity is over 30GB (over 30000MB), but in Finder in MacOSX it is only 128MB big. I think Apple is trying to 'hide' the upgrade until Macworld, but did not managed to 'trick' Windows to hide the storage upgrade," explains "magsy1" on Digg.

"magsy1" also posted proof via YouTube:



MacDailyNews Note: Apple's US$99.95 .Mac Mail and iDisk combined storage is currently 1GB, upgradeable to 2GB for an additional $49.95 per year. We're skeptical. It would take take next-to-nothing for Apple to upgrade .Mac storage at anytime, so there's no reason why Apple would have to turn it on early and go through such machinations to keep it "secret."

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Readers "Scarbro" and "mango" for the heads up.]

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Jan 06, 07 - 02:59 pm Comment from: DogGone

While it makes sense that dot mac storage is increased if media files etc are to be stored there, I think this could just be a case that Windows messed up with its volume size calculation. I mean we've never heard of Windoze messing up before!

Jan 06, 07 - 03:02 pm Comment from: RyAnderson

I think it's related to iTV. .Mac will act as a Tivo instead of putting a hard drive into iTV. That way, copyrighted material can be protected by Apple and make the studios happy enough to let Apple do what they want.

Jan 06, 07 - 03:05 pm Comment from: Matt

Anybody home?

Jan 06, 07 - 03:09 pm Comment from: Fatty Arbuckle

Lets hope they've fixed the glacial transfer speeds, especially for uploading.

Jan 06, 07 - 03:14 pm Comment from: glad cow

I could see increasing it to 3 GB, but 30...? That would be nice though and make .Mac a real good deal.

Jan 06, 07 - 03:24 pm Comment from: obviously its all about...

....TIME MACHINE....

Jan 06, 07 - 03:27 pm Comment from: Demetri

Maybe it will be used in conjunction with TimeMachine?

Jan 06, 07 - 03:27 pm Comment from: V-Train

Mine shows 10 GB in Windows and 500 MB in Mac OS.

Jan 06, 07 - 03:27 pm Comment from: R

I think it's reading the size of the Winblows partition.

Jan 06, 07 - 03:30 pm Comment from: Gavin

Can you imagine how long it would take to transfer 30GB of data over an Internet connection?

Jan 06, 07 - 03:45 pm Comment from: macdev

well if anyone knows under WebDav you can customize what file size it says it is , so this seems very plausible and if they made everything alot faster and cheaper than i would go back to it

Jan 06, 07 - 03:48 pm Comment from: Whooops!

I just farted!

MW: I will surely do it again soon

Jan 06, 07 - 03:55 pm Comment from: re: gavin

"Can you imagine how long it would take to transfer 30GB of data over an Internet connection?"

Gavin, not that long actually... you sound like you are still on a dial-up... or have a crappy truncated asymmetrical broadband connection that limits your upload bandwidth... time to get a bigger pipe my friend


[sent to you on a 12Mb symmetrical fiber-optic pipe, cost less than $50/per month... courtesy of Paxio, and it's scaleable to a Gigbit symmetrical pipe! yeah baby!]

fiber-to-the-curb folks the way of the future!

http://www.paxio.com/home.php?link=Internet

Jan 06, 07 - 03:55 pm Comment from: macman

There might be a .mac storage upgrade, but it's more likely a flaw in Windows.

Where are my .mac widgets that were promised a year ago?

Jan 06, 07 - 04:05 pm Comment from: Simple Math

Why is this hard to believe? at MediaMax I get far more storage space for $99.

Jan 06, 07 - 04:19 pm Comment from: Reality Check

I too am horrified by the thought of trying to transfer gigabytes of data to .Mac - on my machine the speed is awful - a real flashback to the days of 56k modems. And no, it's nothing to do with my Internet connection speed - I have 20 MB/s download and 1.5 MB/s upload, and the vast majority of other sites scream. However, I do live in Holland and not California and I can't help but wonder whether Apple has bothered deploying any servers outside of Cupertino. This might explain the differing accounts of speed amongst different users. If they haven't bothered with mirroring the servers elsewhere in the world, then this is disgraceful - people outside of the US pay more for the service than those in the US.

That said, 30GB of storage with decent connection speeds would be awesome, particularly with Timemachine. But the chances of getting 30GB and decent speeds seems too much to hope for.

Jan 06, 07 - 04:21 pm Comment from: Reality Check

... Oops - I meant Mb/s not MB/s. However, it's download as well as upload that sucks, so it's nothing to do with the asymmetrical connection of my ADSL. FTP uploads to other sites are perfectly respectable.

Jan 06, 07 - 04:24 pm Comment from: Slevin

Take a look at this first before thinkging about it too much

http://ungeni.us/section/opinion/idiots_jumping_on_digg_bandwagons

Jan 06, 07 - 04:27 pm Comment from: Mike

Yeah, the time is here. It's not that hard to transfer 30gb of data.

I just got a sweet 20 megabit line (FiOS) put in

Jan 06, 07 - 04:33 pm Comment from: Scarbro

Demitri makes an interesting point... how cool would that be? To have .Mac and Time Machine work together... and the iTV connection is a good idea too.

Jan 06, 07 - 04:36 pm Comment from: st1

yeah, im from belgium europe and my .mac is so focking slow, i was in seatle last month, and there it was flying, booh to apple for this one!!

Jan 06, 07 - 05:14 pm Comment from: gman

well..I just looked up my iDisk on my Macbook -- in bootcamp - using XP and found that my iDisk reads 26Gb!!!!

interesting...very very interesting.

(FYI, on my iMac -- it's hows normal 1Gb)

Jan 06, 07 - 05:31 pm Comment from: Weakly Reader

This is the quietest of new rumors season I can remember for MacWorld.
Seems this is going to be one ho-hum Macworld.
In the past year Steve and co. have been so tied up in stock scandels, Disney dealings, health problems, etc. that there was no time to create new ideas and let Steve bless them.

Jan 06, 07 - 06:51 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

So gman,
What happens if you try to upload more than 1 Gb on your XP iDisk? Will it take it?
Try it and let us know. I have a .mac account but I don't have XP.

Jan 06, 07 - 07:38 pm Comment from: Andrew

So can we just assume the obvious first: That the windows computer was screwed up and didn't report the correct size? If we're comparing the FInder to Windows Explorer, why would we assume that the Finder was wrong?

grin

Jan 06, 07 - 07:50 pm Comment from: jake4macs

I have a network drive at work on my Windows computer on a Windows server. I know that I have a 1 Gb storage limit on my account. If I go into the drive and pull it up the same way as the video demonstrates, it shows some 39 Gb. It turns out they partition the networked drive into multiple user accounts. Pulling it up in Windows Explorer simply shows the size of the networked storage hard drive, not the limit of the partition that user has access to.

Don't get your hopes up...Dot Mac is not going up to 30 Gb...not even likely to go up to 2 Gb (although that would be nice, considering Google is free and I have more than 2 Gb of space...

Jan 06, 07 - 08:06 pm Comment from: Bryan

It's not inconceivable. Currently, Xdrive offers 50GB of online storage for only $10 a month (and that's on the monthly payment plan -- on the yearly plan it's only $100 per year). Storage is dirt cheap for Apple to implement, and this would give iTV users a way to access their songs and pictures without streaming from another PC.

-Bryan

Jan 06, 07 - 08:09 pm Comment from: Martin

"This is the quietest of new rumors season I can remember for MacWorld.
Seems this is going to be one ho-hum Macworld."

:-D

Jan 06, 07 - 08:43 pm Comment from: ken1w

I think it is definitely part of iTV and iTunes Store. I think this space will be how movies will be "rented." Yes, rented. Apple was smart enough to understand that people BUY music. There have never been any real world business models for renting music. However, in the physical world, people tend to RENT movies, not buy them. That's because most movies are watched once and never again, with only your most favorite movies being honored with repeat showings. Therefore, Apple needs a way to replicate the Netflix and Blockbusters rental business model, but do it 100% online without the need to mail DVDs back and forth.

My guess is that .Mac (a name I've hated) will be renamed. It will become part of the iTunes Store service. Part of that 30GB of space will be allocated to hold rented video content. As each movie is watched, it will stream and buffer to the local Mac, PC, or iTV hard drive. If the connection is broadband but somewhat slow, the movie will be "on hold" until it is sufficiently buffered. But Apple's servers will keep the original file content, to satisfy the DRM fears of the content providers.

I'm sure Apple will still offer purchase of movies and other video content as it does now.

Jan 06, 07 - 09:00 pm Comment from: Benton

keniw,
did you bother to read Sleven's post at 3:24 PM

Jan 06, 07 - 09:19 pm Comment from: okman

magsy1 isn't even a valid .Mac account... yawn

Jan 06, 07 - 09:23 pm Comment from: R

Ugh. The March of the Dork-guins.

Peterson-- where are you? We need your cantankerous BS more than ever! Peterson!

Jan 06, 07 - 10:40 pm Comment from: π

This is ridiculous wishful thinking. Now, back to my lottery tickets.

Jan 06, 07 - 11:00 pm Comment from: Paul

Hi all when will the keynote be shown on quicktime? l know its the 9th tue... how long till they release it? Thanks guys

Jan 06, 07 - 11:03 pm Comment from: chuck

Two things. first, why don't one of you crackheads try and upload 30 gigs of data to one of these accounts and report back. Wouldn't that be a good idea?

And second, anyone find it to be a quinky dink that michael dell is giving a speech the same bat time as jobs keynote? On a topic that doesn't make any fkin sense? Anyone thing jobs is gonna take a year off and open os x to the world so other people can deal with it while he's gone? Couldn't you just see mikey's face on the video screen?

just a thought. i just wanted to piss in the rumor bucket too.

Jan 06, 07 - 11:43 pm Comment from: Unsquirted

I've heard that Apple will increase sperm counts, stop adultery, reverse global warming and end world hunger.


It was on the internet.

It must be true.

Jan 07, 07 - 12:33 am Comment from: Peterson

I had a sperm count once.


Ok, twice. But my mom helped with the math.

Jan 07, 07 - 01:04 am Comment from: The Other Steve

Unsquirted,
Reverse global warming?!?!?

Naaa, "freezing" is a Windows specialty. wink

Jan 07, 07 - 02:52 am Comment from: gman

yo, The Other Steve.

I will try it tomorrow and get back to you...

Gman

Jan 07, 07 - 10:07 am Comment from: Masa

I just hope they would come up with cheaper .Mac service.

The e-mail is nice and so is the web space and all the other goodies too, but 100€/year. No thanks.

100€/3 years. That would be a great deal.

Jan 07, 07 - 04:34 pm Comment from: MilitaryPolice

I see the same thing on my XP Pro system. It shows 29.2 GB. But oddly -- and very significantly -- it says the "free space" is only 12.1 GB. Obviously I have not stored 17 GB of personal data on dot Mac. So ... why the discrepancy? I have only the default dot Mac storage. I am presently chalking it up to a bug, but would be very interested to know if someone (with a high speed connection!) can actually upload multiple GB of data.

Jan 08, 07 - 12:15 pm Comment from: Tubes

BUT iDisk is STILL SO SLOW. Google's will be free and (probably) fast, when it launches.

Jan 08, 07 - 05:39 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

gman,
Thanks for your reply. Please post what you find before Tuesday's speech by Steve (that other steve) tomorrow.

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