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yeah! Bundle them together!

I would actually try iWork if it was bundled.
An iLife/iWork/Leopard 3-way would be **hot**.

-c

At the WWDC! What a surprise!

RUMOR: This year june will be in the spring!

Whatever. Bundle 10.5, iLife, and Penryn chips in new Mac Pros, iMacs, and MacBook Pros then I can really celebrate. I'm holding out till the grand tifecta.

I can see it now, Steve announcing during his keynote that "thanks to all your effort, we can now announce the release of Leopard," or something like that.

why everything for june? april and may needs some love too.

"there is a reasonable chance that Apple will drop its yearly naming convention for the software suites"

I always thought that was kinda dumb anyway.

MW perhaps a new "method"

Ditto Chrissy. MacWrite and MacPaint (was MacDraw bundled too? I can't remember) were great for the sales of the original Macs.

3 weeks of June are in the spring!

If they bundled iLife with Leopard it would be an awsome upgrade. Certainly better than Vista by a very big margin. I'm upgrading no matter what but this would certainly be a bonus if they did so.
The rumor that June is the month Apple will release Leopard however has been going around for a while already.

You know, I kinda miss MacWrite... Maybe we could get them to breathe some life in it again, quick, capable, efficient - perhect Apple.

MW: Working

as in all ChrissyOne know is working on the corner - its the only way she can afford to buy a Mac.

Apple is making a huge mistake by releasing 10.5 in June. The product is very unstable at this time and should be released in the Fall of 2007. They did the same thing with 10.4 and 10.5 is much more of a beta product than tiger was at this time.

Spring ends in June & it's been obvious that 10.5 wasn't ready before iPWSF (iPhone World San Francisco 2007). I and many others have long been saying June. Probably right before or coinciding with WWDC.

June is the new March.

Look for Leopard soon.

It's actually really smart to having iLife and iWork releases in line with major OS releases since much of the new features in the suites are dependent on the new technology released. This means the software advances can go much smoother and be more sigificant.

Apple has been great about making new releases work on old machines. I'm concerned now, with the whole intel thing, that there will be limited support for PPC useres. I use Intel at work but PPC's at home.

Any thoughts?

I wonder why i've never heard anyone address this before?

Re: Jimmy

"Look for Leopard soon."...... Soon rhymes with June!

tested and NOT approved got at least one thing wrong ... they did not delay Tiger (10.4) late in the cycle. They announced it would be an 18-month cycle early on - after a number of complaints - one from every other Mac user - about paying $129 a year just to stay current. It looked like they were going to do another 18-month job early in Leopard's life, but they stretched it about 6 months in and now they are shooting for the end of their announced window.

(on my knees) Oh, PLEASE bundle iLife, and maybe even iWork, in with the OS. Think of the value added to your name ... oh, wait, their name has more intrinsic value than Dell, or H-P, or Gateway. Never Mind!

DLMeyer - the Voice of G.L.Horton's Stage Page

It seems like theres a rumor every month saying that Leopard is coming out in 2 months. Has anyone else noticed this?

Gasp!! They are going to deliver it…well, right when they said they would; end of Spring 2007! Imagine that.

"The release will come at the tail end of spring, which ends June 21, enabling Apple to meet its original shipping estimate," Think Secret reports.

Oooooooooooo, kinda like what Steve Jobs has been saying from the very beginning?

Think Secret reports, "'Leopard is shaping up to be a more significant release than anyone expected, with much more to come than any of the developer builds have led on".

Oooooooooooo, kinda like what Steve Jobs has been saying from the very beginning? "Anyone" being everyone but Steve Jobs I guess? Or anyone except anyone who actually took what Steve said at face value?

Think Secret, you insane ("let us re-state the obvious") out-on-a-limb rumor mongerers, you....

Someone tell me again why they haven't long ago closed up shop and slunk away? How long has it been since they've actually broken an actual story, rather than just regurgitated the day's headlines?

At least "Apple Recon" had the sense to go away gracefully- well, sneak away like thieves in the night at least.

Hey Think "Secret"--

Uh DUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

"At least "Apple Recon" had the sense to go away gracefully- well, sneak away like thieves in the night at least".

FWIW Robert Morgan on Apple Recon was telling the world and his dog to buy Apple well before anyone else. If you'd followed his advice and bought at the time you would be pretty rich by now...

Thieves in the night? Hardly.

In other news, studies have revealed warmer climates south of the equator.

Gotta love Think Secret,

don't be hard on Think Secret.

Their day of greatness is behind them.

Finally, an Apple rumor - Man, its been what, 30 days, I was about ready to lose my mind.

do you think if they bundle all of those things that it might make it cost more? like $149?

That site, and others like it would have a lot more credibility if they didn't post so many rumours from so called sources. Obviously it would be great if they were actually right, but by posting new dates and information every day they just lose any credibility they could ever have. Of course there's no money in that.

*********RUMOR- APPLE TO RELEASE LEOPARD 10.5 EXACTLY WHEN THEY SAID THEY WOULD*************

Stop the presses.

And, take my wife. Please.


MDN magic word: "lines"- what the Think-Secret'-ers were DOING just before posting this crap.

What a pure waste of bits 'n bytes.

See you in June, MDN.
There won´t be any news here to read for the next two+ months. Just hash and rehash and rumors.

Take as long as you want, Apple. I'd rather have it better than have it sooner.

Um, Tacitus, are we talking about the same Apple Recon? I am talking about this one:

http://applerecon.com/

They were only around a few months (tho' widely quoted amongst the blogsphere), and got very little right about anything.

"FWIW Robert Morgan on Apple Recon was telling the world and his dog to buy Apple well before anyone else"

Which decade are you talking about? I was talking about the last couple months.

Micro Me,
MacDraw was never bundled with the Mac system. It always cost extra.

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Think Secret is predicting that OS X Leopard will come out when Apple says it will?
Still stinging from your Aperture fiasco? Don't stick your neck out too far guys.
I predict that the sun will set tonight.

>Apple is making a huge mistake by releasing 10.5 in June. The product is very unstable at this time and should be released in the Fall of 2007. They did the same thing with 10.4 and 10.5 is much more of a beta product than tiger was at this time.

I think this is a good point. Unlike all previous OS releases, Tiger was a radical revamp of the OS and moving to Tiger when it first came out was a major mistake for me. The problems were not ironed out until after a few updates. With that in mind, all the current prognostication seems to indicate Leopard will be a radical change and that means beta-style *trouble* for a lot of Mac users. I am really hyped about what Apple is set to release in 10.5 but thi time will be waiting for at least the second update before buying.

@The Other Steve: "Think Secret is predicting that OS X Leopard will come out when Apple says it will?
Still stinging from your Aperture fiasco? Don't stick your neck out too far guys.
I predict that the sun will set tonight. "

I predict we will be reading about that in Think Secret tomorrow.

Let the bitching about slipped ship dates begin!

If it is true. Maybe Apple realizes if it doesn't fix iLife and iWork - especially iLife parts iPhoto, iMovie, and iDVD - they might as well drop it.

With the coming of Leopard and xxx-core Mac Pro, I have high hopes and eagerly await a new dawn.

@The Other Steve.

Thanks for reminding me. Good for it's day, MacDraw.

I hope the bundling rumour is true.

Nothing to see here, People.

Move along.

Try not to stare at the corpse of Think Secret's relevance.

Well, all I can say is that the suspense has been killing me...

...bundled...mmmmmm....

Sir Toby, I can't help being hard on Think Secret- they make it just so frickin' easy. They are still convinced of their own relevance in our little sphere... still wallowing in the "glory days" of being sued by Apple over Asteroid, or whatever it was....

The only reason Apple would bother suing them today is over bringing down the general level of discourse over all things Apple.

Look, for those who ask "will Leopard be ready for prime time" in June..

Yes, it will. You can bet Steve has his programmers working despicably long hours to get it all done and working in time- I'm not saying it's right, but why do you think he makes those speeches begging forgiveness from his employees and THEIR FAMILIES at every Mac event? He works them like dogs, and I guess they tolerate it for finite periods- because none of them want to be Microsoft, and there's nothing that Steve Jobs HATES more than missing a self-imposed, and public, deadline. He also hates to repeat past mistakes. We all benefit from it, and should tip our caps to his people.

So, I say, yes it will be done and will be ready.

If iLife and iWork were bundled than I would anticipate a price increase. I would definitely be willing to pay $179 or so for that bundle. Even $199 would be a bargain compared to buying all three titles separately. Cool times ahead. Cool times.

I'm just going to go to sleep for a while. Maybe when I wake up, it will be time.

Anyone here using C3 beta? Is it supposed to be the case that when I launch it that there's no background? For example, I have the tool bars on left and right but the background is my desktop. That doesn't seem correct. I realize this is beta but just wondering...

Anthony007,
That's the way my Photoshop 7 looks when I launch it (provided I didn't open a document).

To pieter De Becker,
June 20th is the beginning of Summer so Yes June is still Spring until June 20th.
Thank you.

OK, I'm very confused because isn't iLife already bundled with the OS? I was inclined to believe that it is... considering iLife is what Apple touts about Getting a Mac the most...
From the Apple website: "Every Mac comes with iLife, a suite of software that transforms your photos, music, and video into all kinds of projects."
If that doesn't say, "iLife comes bundled with macs"... I don't know what does?
Now, I understand iWork... that would be a welcome bundled productivity suite.

jtrwallace wrote:
OK, I'm very confused because isn't iLife already bundled with the OS? I was inclined to believe that it is... considering iLife is what Apple touts about Getting a Mac the most...
From the Apple website: "Every Mac comes with iLife, a suite of software that transforms your photos, music, and video into all kinds of projects."
If that doesn't say, "iLife comes bundled with macs"... I don't know what does?

you answered your own question. iLife comes bundled with macs, not with the OS. meaning if you buy a retail copy of Leopard, you won't get iLife with it, new or old.