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RUMOR: Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard features revealed
Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 12:53 PM EST

"My Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA) with Apple precludes me from revealing proprietary detail, but because most, if not all, of this is posted elsewhere and is commonly available, I have no problems with confirming the following," "technosaints" writes on the OSx86 Project Forum.

Some highlights of "technosaints" long list:
• During the Leopard install, you are given the option to create specific partitioning to accommodate M$ Vista and Linux. Reformatting your HD is not required. Depending on your processor and RAM, all OS’s can run simultaneously & independently. A (minimum) 150 GB HD is required (250 GB is recommended), and 2 GB RAM (minimum) should you wish to run more than one OS. Dual processors are required for optimum performance, though this may change in 10.5.1 or 10.5.2.
• The Dock will be much different. One new feature is that as icons are added, they will automatically migrate/expand around the screen as needed (or, you can reduce the size of the icons as presently done). Also, multiple docks are an option as is the amount of “bounce” desired in those dock apps launching or needing your attention. There is an accompanying bounce sound, a boing-boing sort of thing.
• Hooks are built-in to support an Apple PDA, but I can say no more.
• You can have 3 ‘Finder’ windows open simultaneously, much like having 3 displays, all running different applications or OS’s. If networked, any 3 computers can be displayed. Depending on the function/application, you can even Drag & Drop between displays.
• Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application, much like Entourage (but better).
• An across the board speed increase of 35 - 40%.
• Sherlock has been eliminated (use Widgets instead).
• Numerous (other) bug fixes, including a totally rewritten Spotlight.

"Leopard will be previewed in June at the WWDC and released in early November," "technosaints" writes. However, Apple is scheduled to hold World Wide Developers Conference (WWDC 2006) in August, not June.

Much more in the full OSx86 Project Forum post here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader "gwm" for the heads up.]

MacDailyNews Note: This a post from a forum and a RUMOR. Take it with many grains of salt.

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Apr 04, 06 - 01:06 pm Comment from: maczealot

Hot damn. I wants to get me some.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:06 pm Comment from: Guessing

" Hooks are built-in to support an Apple PDA, but I can say no more."

Origami done right.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:08 pm Comment from: Perfect Gift

Dang, I can't wait!

Apr 04, 06 - 01:12 pm Comment from: Da Vinci

Is this OS only for Intel Macs?

Leo

Apr 04, 06 - 01:12 pm Comment from: Eddy

• Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application, much like Entourage (but better).

When did iSight became an application??

Apr 04, 06 - 01:12 pm Comment from: Mant

"Sherlock has been eliminated (use Widgets instead)"
Alas poor Sherlock. I knew him, Watson.
W.S.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:12 pm Comment from: Mikentosh

And it will wash your car too!

Apr 04, 06 - 01:13 pm Comment from: Spark

drool.....

Apr 04, 06 - 01:14 pm Comment from: JohnE

Sounds reasonable......oh, and I'm also getting excited about the Vista launch in 2007, or 08.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:20 pm Comment from: D W

Taking this with a grain of salt is an understatement. I'd say this is totally fake!

1. What business reason would Apple allow you to dual boot? Wouldn't it be a better idea to make customers pay extra to have this happen? Reasoning: the support costs for this could be huge, and the functionality goes against their concept of "easy to use".

2. Why would you want a dock to go around the screen - this hasn't been seen in any Linux distributions so I doubt it'll happen.

3. PDA won't happen when Palm can barely stay afloat, and they had the market basically sewn up.

4. You can do this with Finder today! Woohoo!

5. Might happen, but why would you add iSight?

6. I take performance increase statistics with a grain of salt until proven otherwise.

7. Sherlock's been useless since 10.4 came out. Has anyone tried using it recently? Half the functionality just doesn't work anymore, so nothing new there.

8. Why rewrite Spotlight? It works, it's faster than anything else similar to it, so I highly doubt it. It's probably the reason we don't have Google Toolbar.

Rumor? Not!

Apr 04, 06 - 01:21 pm Comment from: Loki Capret

What kind of "hooks" can be built into an OS? Is he talking about the iMac?

Apr 04, 06 - 01:22 pm Comment from: RS

Ok half of that makes no sense to me but I don't want all those apps combined into one...
I only use Mail and occasionally iCal, why combine all the others to create a slower app loading things I don't use?

PS Apple should release a version of Journler, that app rocks.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:24 pm Comment from: Follower

They're putting in support for the Newton...?

Apr 04, 06 - 01:26 pm Comment from: Too Hot!

I have a hard time believing this stuff, not because it is'nt possible (they would be easy for Apple), or undesirable (in fact, these features would be absolutely fantastic). Rather, because of that oppening statement:

"My Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA) with Apple precludes me from revealing proprietary detail, but because most, if not all, of this is posted elsewhere and is commonly available, I have no problems with confirming the following,"

First, why would OSx86 have an NDA with Apple? And NDA allows this?
And where exactly was all this "posted elsewhere" stuff?

While I hope Leopard gets these nifty additions, I just can't believe the source of the rumor. Just my take.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:27 pm Comment from: Matt

Damn! I got wood and didn't even take my little blue pill!

Apr 04, 06 - 01:27 pm Comment from: Auctoris

I definitely call BS on this one.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:29 pm Comment from: bodeh6

"Is this OS only for Intel Macs?

Leo"

I would assume that this will be the last version to run on PowerPC and Intel. The Windows Vista features will obvisouly not be included in the installation on PowerPC due to the fact that Windows doesn't run on PowerPC chips.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:30 pm Comment from: Moron in a hurry

I don't know what he's been smoking but I want some.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:30 pm Comment from: Mike Buonarroti

This is obviously a fantasy created by a completely unimaginative person thinking that combining his favorite features of Tiger and WIndows XP will net an innovative OS.

There is NOTHING here that has an Apple feel to it; merely regurgitated functions.

YAAAAWWWNNNN!

Apr 04, 06 - 01:32 pm Comment from: Ni4Ni| Spliff

That is sooo fake. Ala "I can't say much, but I will confirm this" *Enter long list of "features"*. If you believe this, you are a sucker.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:32 pm Comment from: Dave

I smell a fake.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:36 pm Comment from: Macademia Nut

You can see the three screens here.

Screenshot of desktop

Three desktop windows

Apr 04, 06 - 01:37 pm Comment from: Macademia Nut

Of course, you can search for those using the string "10.5 Leopard" on Google images. smile

Apr 04, 06 - 01:37 pm Comment from: ndelc

I don't buy it. If for no other reason, anyone with this knowledge would also know that the WWDC isn't in June this year.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:38 pm Comment from: Mike Buonarroti

Leopard (10.5) will NOT be the last Mac OS to support PowerPC Macs. Apple has always, and open states as its policy, that they will support all hardware up to 5 years. In practice, it is more common for Apple to go beyond those 5 years.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:39 pm Comment from: Da Vinci

Which system should I use to plot my course to the Moon?

Cheers

leo

Apr 04, 06 - 01:51 pm Comment from: Dead Squirrel

"Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight (sic), and iChat will become one integrated application..."

Almost certainly 100% wrong.

Apr 04, 06 - 01:52 pm Comment from: MechWarrior 2

"Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application"

Pardon?. Evertyhing except iSight is software. How are they going to convert a piece of aluminium (hardware) into software in order to bundle it into a big "Entourage but better". If they do, im going to be they are alchemists or something

Apr 04, 06 - 01:56 pm Comment from: beg

Funny, same thing was posted on MacNN's Forums on April 1st.

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=291048

I think it's pretty safe this was an April Fools joke.

Apr 04, 06 - 02:07 pm Comment from: Real IT guy

"Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight, and iChat will become one integrated application, much like Entourage (but better)."

Bleah, what a pile of steaming donkey turds THAT would be...which is also better than Entourage, coincidentally...

Apr 04, 06 - 02:10 pm Comment from: Jooop

One new feature is that as icons are added, they will automatically migrate/expand around the screen as needed (or, you can reduce the size of the icons as presently done).

What does that mean? I can't make any sense out of it at all?

When you add or remove icons in the Dock as it exists now, it automatically resizes all of the icons in the dock to best fit the screen, so WTF is this guy talking about?

And there is no program called "iSight". It's a video camera, not software.

Apr 04, 06 - 02:11 pm Comment from: Rona

Traffic to this MDN seems to be increasing, its a sign that people are buying iMacs

Apr 04, 06 - 02:14 pm Comment from: Ampar

I'm completely covered in sodium chloride. Eyes burning. Quick, someone get me a giant margarita glass. I want to rub myself on the rim before I lose consciousness.

Apr 04, 06 - 02:15 pm Comment from: Anonymous

From the sound of that partition thingy, I'm sick of Apple's obsession for a bigger pie....

Apr 04, 06 - 02:17 pm Comment from: gwm

And there it is on April one, alright. Word for word.

anyways .. regarding iSight: It actually does have a software component. Keeps showing up on my Software Update but I don't have the hardware. iSight Update 1.0.3 980KB

Apr 04, 06 - 02:24 pm Comment from: ppc

Just a late April Fools joke...
This is so fake it hurts.

Apr 04, 06 - 02:24 pm Comment from: Ampar

I'm also going to need eight gallons of margarita mix, two gallons of tequila, two hundred limes, eighty-six bags of round ice cubes, eight hundred feet of Playtypus Super 100 fishing line, six gallons of kerosene, forty-seven pounds of Silly Putty, thirty-two heads of cabbage, an air chain hoist, seventeen Flamenco dancers, and a large block of goat cheese.

Apr 04, 06 - 02:31 pm Comment from: Jay

would assume that this will be the last version to run on PowerPC and Intel.

When you assume... Tiger supports the g3, which are 2-9 years old. There is no way they will drop support for g3, g4 and g5 for 10.6, which is probably 2-4 years away.

I' m highly skeptical of this. Why the factual errors? It doesn't make sense for a highly informed source or a haox starter. If I were making stuff up I would check some basic facts first, then again if I was working close enough to Apple to know these things I would know that the iSight is hardware and that WWDC is late this year. Strange, very strange.

Apr 04, 06 - 02:43 pm Comment from: allgood2

3. DiskWarrior (in lieu of TechTool) will be bundled with 10.5 if one chooses Apple Care or extends their current Apple Care contract. I don’t know the pricing or specific details, though Apple Care for older machines will increase significantly with the machine’s age. Machines over 6 years old (from date of mfgr.) are not eligible.


My thoughts on why this is fake, or possible has some truths, but is mostly fabrication, is from item 3 above. DiskWarrior isn't a replacement tool for TechTool Pro. DiskWarrior is a directory repair application. Its great at what it does, but it does not check memory and other hardware issues, perform speed tests, etc. That said, I've been able to use DiskWarrior to solve issues 75%-85% of the time, without having to escalate to TechTool Pro, but I'd be pretty pissed if I needed to perform a hardware test, and the only tool Apple provided was DiskWarrior.

Apr 04, 06 - 02:46 pm Comment from: DarkLord

A nondisclosure agreement that lets you confirm rumors. Puhleez!

Apr 04, 06 - 02:57 pm Comment from: Bill

"Mail, Address Book, iCal, iSight (sic), and iChat will become one integrated application..."

Makes no sense. I love them as seperate apps, plus they work fantastically together. Entourage is one messy uber app. Better keep them seperate, please.

Apr 04, 06 - 02:59 pm Comment from: gwm

Well cripes. All we really want to be true is the part about running multiple OSes concurrently, right? And for you guys that say no to be wrong. ahaha.

C'mon. I'm a a tired old man. Plus .. the missus won't pop for a new Mac for me 'til it'll run Windows, too.

Apr 04, 06 - 03:01 pm Comment from: Wil

I wish they would integrate the iApps (iCal etc,)

Apr 04, 06 - 03:01 pm Comment from: Preston

Bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus. All bogus.

Apr 04, 06 - 03:01 pm Comment from: Toby

For the first time an OS makes me want to upgrade my hardware to dual processors....


I feel like homer Simpson...."Mmmmmmm...Dual operating systems"

Apr 04, 06 - 03:06 pm Comment from: RIP Sherlock

The redheaded stepchild, Sherlock, has been ignored and abused for some time. RIP

Apr 04, 06 - 03:17 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

The report does sound questionable, especially given all the discrepancies.

The multi-boot OS thing sounds ludicrous. Tech support alone would kill Apple, especially if it didn't work as advertised... oh, wait, Apple doesn't advertise. ;^)

Seriously, ANYthing purporting running Vista directly on a Mac would HAVE to have problems. After all, it's a Microsoft OS! I would NEVER cripple a Mac running ANY form of Windows on it. Being able to run a Windows app directly, without needing Windows could be desirable for those one-of a-kind business apps people are saddled with running.

Some of the other "rumors" sound pretty desirable, though!

iCal, in it's present state is a joke. it's really just a 1.0 with some bug and compatibility fixes. Apple should buy Claris Organizer (now Palm Desktop) back from palm and do a serious overhaul.
Address book isn't much better. And I wish they would make the mail Pictures easter Egg a standard feature.

http://www.nikwest.de/Software/

Combining iCal and Address Book with Mail seems like an excellent move. If I could selectively Sync it with my Palm and phone, without buying six different utilities (Missing Sync, Blue Phone Elite, etc.) that would be excellent.

Stirring iChat into the mix seems moot, since it links with Mail and the Address Book. I rarely use it, so am not familiar with it's niceties, though using it for direct file transfers is great!

Anyway, it's fun hearing and pondering all this stuff. It's part of what makes the the Mac universe so much fun!

Apr 04, 06 - 03:24 pm Comment from: lol

Minimum 150GB HD (recommended 250GB) requirement? Nope, sorry.

Apr 04, 06 - 03:49 pm Comment from: macnut222

I find it interesting how from the beginning days of Mac OS X, we have never seen any info or screenshots of the upcoming OS until Steve took the wraps off of it*. Are we supposed to believe that all of a sudden, all of this info has sprung up? I don't think so.


*Please correct me if I am wrong.

Apr 04, 06 - 03:53 pm Comment from: LastOneStanding

The redheaded stepchild, Sherlock, has been ignored and abused for some time. RIP

There is no reason to use the above derogatory racial statement. Why is it that Redheaded step children are supposed to be beaten? If I said this about any other group that wasn't white the ACLU would be sending threatening letters to MDN and pressing for action.

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