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RUMOR: ‘Mac Pro’ to feature several custom components co-developed by Apple and Intel
Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 12:46 PM EST

"If you've been reading previous reports from Rumors on the upcoming Mac Pro that will replace the already impressive quad-processor PowerMac G5 with up to eight stunningly powerful and efficient Intel Core 2 processor cores with a pair of quad-core 'Woodcrest' chips or dual-core 'Conroe' CPUs," MacOSRumors reports. "You probably also know that the Mac Pro will support multiple PCI Express x16 graphics cards with the option to pair up cards using SLI technology for double the 3D gaming -- or high-end 3D rendering -- performance. And all the other bells and whistles of a fully high-end Intel Core architecture-based computer platform, as we've reported previously."

"But there are some new details filtering in. For one thing, we've been hearing a lot about Apple's new high-end software which is being built specifically with the Mac Pro's eight cores in mind. We've also heard a lot of interesting and sometimes conflicting information, which we'll be digging into further over this coming weekend," MacOSRumors reports.

MacOSRumors reports, "The last time we received benchmarks and hands-on reports directly from trusted sources who have had access to prototype systems, most of Apple's attention seemed to be focused on the drive to add more cores -- two, four, or eight as the three options for the next generation of professional Macs... the Mac Pro will not simply be a standard set of Intel 975 class chips. It will include several custom components co-developed between the companies, and a configuration of Intel chips that will not normally be used in tower-desktop PCs but rather in very high-end workstations and servers."

Full article here.

[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader "LinuxGuy" for the heads up.]

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Jul 27, 06 - 11:55 am Comment from: Akido

Isn't MacOSRumors the site that makes $#!t up?

Jul 27, 06 - 11:56 am Comment from: Ampar

sweet <glances at bank balance>

Jul 27, 06 - 12:00 pm Comment from: MacMind

That's from a report on July the 11th. A little bit old news don't you think?

Jul 27, 06 - 12:04 pm Comment from: Jonahan

I don't think they will wait till the end of the year to get the quad core Woodcrests. Anyway the Woodcrests have HyperThreading so 2 dual core chips would look like 8 anyway.

Jul 27, 06 - 12:05 pm Comment from: Jonahan

Oh and you can't have 2 Conroe's anyway..

Jul 27, 06 - 12:08 pm Comment from: Harry

Yeah! That's what I'm talking about. With that and Universal Adobe, I'll be King of the World!

Jul 27, 06 - 12:16 pm Comment from: tHE dUDE

Apple must diverge from standard Intel PC architecture over time if not immediately. There simply is no way to differentiate in a workstation market. The OS is not going to suffice for worstations. Most people don't care what OS they are using as long as it has the apps and doesn't crash. XP doesn't crash and it has most of the apps. Intel Macs DON'T have the apps. Is there any universal binary version of a popular CAD app?

Jul 27, 06 - 12:21 pm Comment from: Nick

Here is the competition:
http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&oc=DXPS410F1&s=dhs

I congiured one with a 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 160GB 10,000rpm SATA drive, NVidia 7900GS 256MB video card, 20" widescreen display for about $2,200.

I can't wait to see what Apple offers!

Jul 27, 06 - 12:22 pm Comment from: AnimationStudent

8 cores at 2.66 Ghz per core with the ability to pair up graphics.

8x2.66 = 21.28 Ghz gulp

Jul 27, 06 - 12:28 pm Comment from: LordRobin

Yes, Akido, MOSR is notorious for making up "poop" to drive traffic to the site. Their credibility is zero. I can't believe there's any discussion on this article.

Jul 27, 06 - 12:30 pm Comment from: Pat Paulsen

MacOS Rumors just makes up crap all the time. At best, the site gets updated once a week with pure fiction.

These are the same guys who said the iBook would absolutely, positively NOT be called a MacBook. See?

Read their past S@#T and you'll see that fiction is modus operandi at MOSR.

If you trust them for news then you trust Steve Ballmer.

Jul 27, 06 - 12:30 pm Comment from: Verbose

I have to say that my outlook is exactly opposite of tHE dUDE's comments, with the exception of the "doesn't crash" part. When selecting a computer I first look at the OS. If I don't like the OS, I'm not buying the machine. I think OS X is head and shoulders above Windows and therefore I buy Macs. The applications are secondary consideration. Granted, it is not always posssible to get certain jobs done on a Mac with the apps you may want to use, but I am more willing to work around limited app selection when I have to rather than always work around a crappy OS.

Jul 27, 06 - 12:35 pm Comment from: rasterbator

sweet <checks lotttery numbers>

Jul 27, 06 - 12:43 pm Comment from: Ba Ha

And my dog told me there will be 7 cores.

Jul 27, 06 - 12:44 pm Comment from: scott

animationstudent-

that looks so sweet, but is so wrong. comparing clock speeds only works when you're comparing the EXACT same architecture. a core 2 duo at 2 ghz is slower than a core 2 duo at 3 ghz. however, a pentium d at 3 ghz is not faster than a core 2 duo at 2 ghz.

plus, the nature of dual core (or multi-core for that matter) means that you don't get a 2x speed increase because both processors aren't working on the same data at the same time.

Jul 27, 06 - 12:44 pm Comment from: Flipped

Total blah, blah, blah b.s. with no specifics.

Jul 27, 06 - 12:53 pm Comment from: The VERY Satirical Realist

The guy who made me my coffee at the local Coffee shop said there would be 257 cores. I swear. He said his other job is the assistant to a developer who is in the know at Apple. No joke. He said Steve Jobs comes to this coffee shop all the time, but I can't tell you which shop because then Jobs would get very mad. He said his boss is best friends with Phil Schiller. No joke. The 257 core tower is only gonna cost two thousand dollars.

Thank god I know so many credible sources, or I would probably be lost as far as the computer market goes.

Jul 27, 06 - 01:15 pm Comment from:

Seriously it's like you are playing some damn role-playing game. You make a post and then you add some brackets to show that your talking to yourself - give me a damn break!

Nerd Alert!

Jul 27, 06 - 01:16 pm Comment from:

the ambigiously nerdy duo.

Are your real names ACE & Gary?

Jul 27, 06 - 01:17 pm Comment from: Rumors but...

all rumors but it doesn't take much brain to think that Apple is going toward multi-core heavily. Hell, even Apple reprs simply say that: 64-bit and multi-core.

Jul 27, 06 - 01:18 pm Comment from: AG Pennypacker

Rumor: This could be a rumor!

Jul 27, 06 - 01:20 pm Comment from: Wrong Again

Macosrumors...the site that continuously reloads iself and makes sure a few links are wrong so that you'll come back later in the day hoping they're fixed.

Jul 27, 06 - 01:41 pm Comment from: GmJm

Nothing New

For all of those too scared to visit the technical overview of Apple computers, Apple has always had their own custom controller chips. It's a major reason why you can't build a Mac from off-the-shelf parts.

Although they are not labeled, they can be seen in the iMac Technical Overview PDF (http://images.apple.com/imac/pdf/20060120_iMac_TO.pdf). They are on page 13, and are the two large squares in the middle.

Similar diagrams of previous Mac models clearly have them labeled.

Jul 27, 06 - 01:57 pm Comment from: Ampar

raster: Yeah, me too!

P.S. Ampar is employed again. After only one week. Not bad. Life does go on.

Jul 27, 06 - 02:01 pm Comment from: You know it's true

Raster & Ampar = Ace and Gary. If Lance did it, you guys can . . . . or continue to act oblivious.

Jul 27, 06 - 02:20 pm Comment from: Egg Salad Sandwich

8 cores at 2.66 Ghz per core with the ability to pair up graphics.

8x2.66 = 21.28 Ghz



Sorry, doesn't work that way.

Adding processors doesn't add to the clock speed.

What multi-cores allows one to do is run more apps at the same time.

Or if you have a really large work load that could be broken up into pieces and each work load sent to a core to work on and the results either sent on to the hard drive, the graphics card or back to the main core faster than if the main core did all the work itself.

Another thing a lot of cores can do is set up a assembly line, each doing a little work and then sending partial results to the next core in the chain. This is especially useful for high end 3D rendering.

With the ability of multiple video cards in a SLI configuration, the video data path is spilt, so each video card is only rendering a percentage of the screen. Thus it can render at a higher detail.


All these multiple cores and video cards are for people with high work loads or using software that will take advantage of it.

Jul 27, 06 - 02:22 pm Comment from: Eric24601

Great! So now, we can use our Macs for computing and canoeing. How will Apple integrate a Canoe in it's computers? That's a tremendous challenge even for Apple!

Jul 27, 06 - 02:29 pm Comment from: ©

Ampar - Good news. QUICK too. Nice to hear.

Jul 27, 06 - 02:39 pm Comment from: Naraa Haras

MacOSRumors. This is entertainment more than information. They have never been right about a rumor. Please do not make purchasing decisions based on this site. They base their "rumors" on wishes rather than real information. It's fun reading though.

Jul 27, 06 - 02:40 pm Comment from: Ampar

Thanks, ©! Things worked out amazingly well.

Jul 27, 06 - 03:14 pm Comment from: Ampar

"MacOSRumors. This is entertainment more than information."

Looks around.



LOL

Jul 27, 06 - 03:49 pm Comment from: Sammy

LOL more fiction than fact. The article speaks like SLI technology is some sort of generic hardware commoditity, when in fact its a Nvidia only feature that requires a Nvidia Nforce 4/5 chipset (and ATI's crossfire naturally requires an ATI chipset). Considering Apple is getting chipsets only from Intel, and Nvidia isn't providing Nforce motherboards (nor is there an acknowledgement of such a partnership between Apple/Nvidia), this "article" is one big belly laugh of ignorance.

Jul 27, 06 - 04:27 pm Comment from: Synthmeister

MacOSRumors has been promising the mythical 4 and 8 core Macs since the days of the G4 PowerMacs! One of these decades they'll probably be right.
Remember when someone "stole" their domain and started making up stuff that didn't sound too different from the "authentic" rumors.

Jul 27, 06 - 05:02 pm Comment from: Ericn

Custom components...Whether it's true or not, this is something that everybody should be hoping for. So when things are announced, we should all have this on our list of expectations. The MacPro needs to be on top in every way.

Jul 28, 06 - 10:55 am Comment from: stymied

I congiured one with a 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 160GB 10,000rpm SATA drive, NVidia 7900GS 256MB video card, 20" widescreen display for about $2,200.

Dude, you're getting a Dell?

What the f%@k is wrong with you?

Jul 28, 06 - 12:59 pm Comment from: tHE dUDE

Verbose:
When I said most people I should have said corporate IT staff and CAD, 3D, animation, production staff. Workstation users don't even need an OS for most of their work day. What they NEED are the applications that allow them to get the most work done in the shortest amount off time. Copying files, configuring their network connections and worrying about spyware is not allowed to get in the way of workstations so the security of the OS is secondary to the stabiltiy and speed of the hardware.

The OS is unimportant. As evidenced by the fact that you can run any OS on a Mac. If you can run Windows on a Mac workstation, great. But does it run faster on a Mac? Does the Mac workstation provide important enhancements that PC workstation of the same class and price lack? Yes? Great, NOW add the fact that the MacOS has greater uptime, greater security AND all the applications I need. THEN, I will dump my PC workstations and switch to Macs.

In other words when the applications I need run faster under Windows on a Mac OR when the applications I need are availbable AND/OR run faster on MacOS, the department will switch to Macs.

Jul 28, 06 - 04:19 pm Comment from: cw

I'll give the real inside dope. Here it is:
New macs will use the new Amiga custom chip sets that work at 100 GHZ.

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