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Suck it Opera,

Mar 27, 08 - 09:20 am Comment from: anaknipedro

Congratulations to the guys at webkit. They have been hard at work for the last week. Their recent focus has been on passing this test, which included some nasty tests, but the current builds are also super fast. Try them out for both Mac and Windows.

Mar 27, 08 - 09:20 am Comment from: mr_matalino

IE is still that high huh?

Mar 27, 08 - 09:30 am Comment from: Cubert

I never thought I would be excited about running Safari, but I am. Now, I'm looking forward to each new release the same way I have with Firefox in the past.

Mar 27, 08 - 09:31 am Comment from: Jay-Z

@ mr_matalino:

Ignorance and masochism abound.

amazing.

Most people use a browser that doesn't properly render web pages.

stupid sheep.

Mar 27, 08 - 09:37 am Comment from: Spark

"IE is still that high huh?"

It's like sound systems in cars. You can easily improve your stereo by replacing the unit supplied by the manufacturer, but most do not. They simply drive for years, settling for "okay".

They only difference is that browsers are free, and easy to replace. So are IE users idiots? Not really. Most of the issues covered in the ACID 3 test are over the heads and unnoticed by the average user. IE is "good enough" for the average user not to feel the need to change.

on a side note, I run little scripts to automatically download things off of the internet. I run these scripts on a browser.

Opera is the ONLY one that works for me. I wish firefox and safari worked with my scripts.

So Opera is low on the list, but I am thankful it still exists.

Mar 27, 08 - 09:38 am Comment from: Cubert

My two remaining bitches about Safari are:

Not every link clicked on will open in a new tab without pushing the command key.

Reopening the last closed tab (not window - which is a menu option) without resorting to opening a new blank tab and then finding the one you just closed in the history.


If I'm overlooking something please let me know.

Kudos to both teams! I'm not a fan of the Opera browser, but the more compliant these browsers are, the better for all.

Mar 27, 08 - 09:53 am Comment from: Mr. Peabody

We've just got to stop using MS products. At 74% for IE we're just giving it to MS for free, and continuing to enable vendors to start all of their respective tech-support replies with, "1. You must be using IE..."

I've got a question, will the world keep on spinning even if we all stop using MS products? It would appear that most people don't think so.

Mar 27, 08 - 09:54 am Comment from: OZZ

What about IE?

Bahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

"IE is still that high huh?" Sadly, yes.

Some don't know (there's anything else out there)
Some don't care (that there's something better)
Some aren't permitted (as in many organizations) to use anything else.

Mar 27, 08 - 10:11 am Comment from: Mr. Reeee

Mr. Peabody…
I'd wager that most Windows users think that Solitaire IS Windows. … And the Internet is a series of tubes.

Once these people discover that A, Solitaire can be played with physical playing cards and B Solitaire is available on other computer platforms, the world THEY know will cease to spin.

Many people believe that the big blue "e" on their desktop is the internet. Remember that not a great deal of people are extremely tech savvy, or even mildly tech capable. So, a good portion of those people using IE don't even know that there is an alternative to IE nor would they even be able to give you a description of what a web browser is or does.

Mar 27, 08 - 10:23 am Comment from: Spark

@Cubert: "Not every link clicked on will open in a new tab without pushing the command key."


Why would you want this??? You'd end up with a slew of tabs. It's the web designer, not the browser, that decides whether a link will open in the Parent or a new Blank page.

Opera has a full-screen view and Safari doesn't. Opera passes the LSD test.

@Spark

Cubert, I believe, is requesting that all "target=_blank" links open in tabs, not new windows. This is a great feature in Firefox, as it keeps users from having 900 windows piled on top of each other.

Mar 27, 08 - 11:23 am Comment from: Cubert

@Spark,

Because that's what tabs are for. I much prefer to open a link in another tab and then get to it later. Many times I open multiple tabs in succession and look at them later. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

Mar 27, 08 - 11:58 am Comment from: HMCIV

Kudos to Safari and Opera for scoring so well and pushing the envelope. [Warning, envelope may contain a MacBook Air.]

Additional Kudos to Opera for not whining like a little girl (Apologies to ChrissyOne ) when Apple makes aggressive marketing decisions.

Mar 27, 08 - 12:45 pm Comment from: Cubert

@bon,
Exactly! For example, in Firefox, when you click on one of the movies on RedTube, it opens in another tab. When you do the same in Safari, it opens in another window. So annoying - totally messes up my rhythm.

Mar 27, 08 - 01:30 pm Comment from: Anonymous©

MDN, you should have listed how the other browsers score on the Acid3 test. Off the top of my head, I think IE7 scores like a 14 out of 100.

Mar 27, 08 - 04:46 pm Comment from: treestman

@Cubert,

"Not every link clicked on will open in a new tab without pushing the command key."

Paste the following in Terminal and hit enter:

defaults write com.apple.Safari TargetedClicksCreateTabs -bool true

Now re-launch Safari and you're all set.

Mar 27, 08 - 06:57 pm Comment from: AppleMacMan

@Cubert,

"Not every link clicked on will open in a new tab without pushing the command key."

Paste the following in Terminal and hit enter:

defaults write com.apple.Safari TargetedClicksCreateTabs -bool true

Now re-launch Safari and you're all set.

I'm posting treestman's post to make sure you see this. I was about to post the same. I can't tell you how happy I was when I found out that this is now possible in Safari 3.1. Enjoy. 

Webkit gets a 100/100 but it does not pass because the animation is not smooth.

I'm not a web browser expert, and this may be comparing apples & oranges, but it seems to be anticlimactic when Safari establishes a milestone with Acid3 and a few posts later a hacker demonstrates a security flaw in Safari in record-breaking time.

Mac hacked in security contest via undisclosed Safari vulnerability

Why, oh, why, are journalists on IT-magazines usually among the most ignorant on web technologies?

Webkit does not pass the Acid3 test. Opera dev builds does not either. And neither team claim they do. In fact, they EXPLICITLY SAY they do not. In clear, easily understood English.

There are three criteria: DOM/JS tests, rendering, and speed/"smoothness". Clearly stated on the test page, clearly explained by the dev teams.

But once again I read on the page of an IT mag the results of bad journalism.