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Apr 18, 08 - 05:16 pm Comment from: FatMac

Cool. What does the Vulcan Salute get the phone to do?

In my patent you can shove a phone in a warm dark place where the sun never shines and dail a number by muscle contraction....

Apr 18, 08 - 05:19 pm Comment from: R

Think removable 50lb lead-acid battery to power the thing for a half a day as it keeps reading non-stop gestures. Unless you have to touch it to get it into no-touch mode. in which case, it's not really no-touch.

Patent infringement, you touched it!!!! Nah nah nah nahnaha na!

Trouble is, this concept is most usable to those who speak sign language. But not many of them place phone calls.

Apr 18, 08 - 05:23 pm Comment from: Micro Me

ESP is better. Think of the number you want to dial. Concentrate now. Aaahh - oomm. Hello? Sorry, wrong number. Think again.

I like the idea.
I just hope it doesn't require hardware larger than a Big Ass Table.

Apr 18, 08 - 05:25 pm Comment from: Mac-nugget

@Sam Jung Gai
LOL!

Apr 18, 08 - 05:25 pm Comment from: Spark

The mult-touch gestures are very intuitive. I wonder if the Samsung gestures are the same, of if one is required to learn a bunch of special gestures like sign language. Still it could work. Just goes to show those who think that anyone can do touch screens like Apple (and there are many; just go look at anti-Apple comments who poo-poo the iPhones multitouch as nothing special). Apple's patents must be pretty strong for a company with the resources that Samsung must have to go to an entirely different method.

Apr 18, 08 - 05:32 pm Comment from: Forrest, Forrest Gump

I think it is ok to try all possible ways to control a device, even hand gestures.

Now, a good question: Is it usable or just yet another novelty? Time will tell.

However, I still think that real and complete voice recognition commands will be in PART the future; it will be useful when driving being busy with hands.

Sam Sung Sucky Lucky Ducky

Fscky Fscky? Ten dollar...

I see a red door and want to paint it black...

The only problem is that any phone camera I have ever seen is on the back of the phone. How's that gonna work?

great, now we'll have to all learn sign language. What are they thinking?

how about gesture-based tvs, too? turn it on and off by jumping, change channels by spinning around (1 channel per revolution), mute by putting your finger to your lips, and flipping it the bird to clear up the digital cable compression artifacts.

As a person of Italian background, I can appreciate the desire to create a device that allows us to "talk" with our hands. But the only hand gesture I'd like to employ with a phone might be to use an extended middle finger to hang up on someone.

In the history of stupid ideas, this has got to take the prize.

This ranks right up there with WinMo 7, as it too will use the camera to replicate some things the iPhone does. In this case, WM7 will use the camera to determine its orientation, like the iPhone's orientation sensors.

Also reminds me of MS's BigArseTable, that uses 3 cameras for its multitouch capability.

I guess everyone has to get around Apple's 200+ patents that Steve Jobs talked about.

Apr 18, 08 - 05:49 pm Comment from: iamdj

I'd like to vote in the next election using a gesture.

Apr 18, 08 - 05:56 pm Comment from: NeonRed

I be thinking that a DDR like footpads for dialing and navigating would be a good thing... get your exercise while you're surfen'

This has been the most funniest and most amusing thread I have ever read on MDN. Thank you everyone for your pokes. Wish I could come up with something as funny. I just wanted to say thanks

Apr 18, 08 - 05:58 pm Comment from: Zune Tang®

Looks like another instance where Apple's 'me-too' yawner toy technology is even further diminished by real innovation. Samsung's brilliant camera + gesture technology coupled with the revolutionary Microsoft Windows Mobile platform is a tantalizing prospect. Language can be a barrier, but gestures are universal. Pure genius. The possibilities are endless; Apple would never know what hit them.

Your potential. Our passion.™

Apr 18, 08 - 06:03 pm Comment from: Petey

rofl - what a crazy idea.

So lets get this right, you move your hand infront of the phone to use it.

Well einsteins, how the hell do you do that if you are holding the god damn phone?

Nice idea - but it will never be accepted as a working mass production product by consumers.

How can people ever accept this if they cant even adjust to using touch screen phones??

Apr 18, 08 - 06:04 pm Comment from: iamdj

I've developed the FART PHONE. You access various functions of the phone by varying the pitch and intensity of your farts.

Trouble is, on a crowded subway... well you get the idea.

earlier at this forum i ridiculed the idea of a gesture-based. after imagining myself actually using one of these devices in a real-life scenario i'm starting to warm to the idea. our subways are already packed so tightly that you have to be careful not to impregnate someone when the train stops and starts.

given the insanely close proximity that all of us passengers are to one another, i'm REALLY starting to like gestures 2, 3 and 4...

Apr 18, 08 - 06:16 pm Comment from: Predrag

To Doctrine:

Looks like you haven't seen many 3G phones yet; must be from the US...

While the iPhone's multi-touch gestures aren't as easy to perform using a single hand as one would hope, you can still do many things while carrying something in your other hand.

How's this Samsung thing going to work? You'll have to hold it in one hand and point the camera (front one or rear one, doesn't matter) at it in order to work?

I guess patents don't cost much to file. I'm very curious how much R&D;money has been spent on this idea before it arrived at the patent office... And how much more are they going to spend on it before someone figures out that a real phone with such an interface would end up just like RJR/Nabisco's smokeless cigarette from the 80's.

Apr 18, 08 - 06:33 pm Comment from: LateRegistrant

If you're wearing gloves will the phone sound muffled?

Let's pray that Samsung can make this happen.

And when the camera has difficulty recognizing individual hand gestures Samsung will offer an all-new LED-fitted stylus to assist you.

Seeing people using this would be sweet vindication.

@Sam Jung Gai

Actually, you're wrong about the use of phones by the deaf (and by the hard-of-hearing). Those with hearing loss have been using phones for 30 years, using a variety of technologies to aid their communication, from TTY (a text stream) to two-way video via Skype.

If you bothered to read the article instead of trying to be funny, you'd realize that what Samsung proposes is fairly reasonable, and the finger-signs involved aren't that far removed from some of Apple's multi-touch commands. And while I don't see this technology's use in a phone as being an improvement, I can easily see it being used to control large-screen monitors without having to physically touch the monitor -- which might make sense if monitors are wall-sized and it's easier to gesture to control the screen than actually touch it.

Apr 18, 08 - 07:13 pm Comment from: LateRegistrant

Samsung is already behind with their idea. I filed a prior patent for the DramaPhone, a device that responds to finger puppets. It's the beginning of the end of faceless technology.

Apr 18, 08 - 07:55 pm Comment from: alansky

You all have got it all wrong: Samsung's new phone will be controlled by mental telepathy!

Apr 18, 08 - 08:00 pm Comment from: ichi

i've tried, i've had others to try (a few?)... nobody, c1, seems to be able to bring my unit under control.

what we do know from ALL this is multi-touch, multi-pass, itouch... all rock.

Apr 18, 08 - 08:02 pm Comment from: ichi

and, MDN, that's no cockamamie.

Apr 18, 08 - 08:11 pm Comment from: ichi

@ MikeK

kanotz? anywho...

would my giant wall tv have a gesture to turn off gesturing?

i mean, if i'm doing other things with my fingers --like playing my guitar or.......... ...is my tv going to go nuts (not unlike my groupies do) and if so what THEN!?

Damn you! Damn you. You can expect to hear from my lawyers Pork and Bean in the morning.

Its an interesting idea. Lets see how it gets implemented. But of course the resulting phone will still have to use the crappy windows mobile. Maybe the blackberry as well?
If this method of input by Samsung actually works perhaps it can be used to manufacture a Google Android phone that would get the public excited.
It would seem that Samsung wants to go to war. Well its on now!

How about giving the Samsung phone the middle finger. Will that make it suddenly turn into a Windows Mobile phone?

Apr 18, 08 - 09:41 pm Comment from: CYxodus

Will it work if the sun is behind you or if its dark? Will it require a light to be on during the night? That'll kill the battery. Sounds like another half-baked idea in response to something that they laughed at.

Apr 18, 08 - 11:36 pm Comment from: Cubert

@Olternaut,

Come on! No serious posts allowed!

Wait? What about this one?
D'oohhhhh!

Apr 19, 08 - 12:17 am Comment from: Jubei

Thats gotta be the most idiotic system one can think of. Can you imagine the look of bystanders as you stand there holding your phone in one hand and with the other flipping it off? Ahahaha

(from my ipod touch which I have to say has white possibly the most amazing browser on any mobile devie outside of iPhone, this is an amazing product the fact that I can go online and visit my favorite websites on my IPOD is just amazing ) Oh my... You'd think samsung would realize what a stupid idea that is! You know sometimes I'm glad apple has Steve Jobs as a moderator controlling what they put out. So stupid ideas like this are axes immediately.

And Micro$oft will bring out olfactory/sniff control phones, where the user can dial a phone by producing a series of smells...

Apr 19, 08 - 02:01 am Comment from: Jubei

Actually MS will come out with their own Zune Phone with Voice Controlled system. Except it will be set a Ballmer volume levels. I can see users now in subways, trains, trams, airport screaming commands like Ballmer. *CALL HOME* ..... * I SAID CALL HOME!*.... * CAAAAAALLLLLL HOOOOOME* * OPEN BROWSER NOW!!!! * AARRRRRGH!

Yeap, I agree with my mate Zune Tang.

Another thing they haven't thought about is how do disabled people or people with impaired or restricted movement or one arm use this phone.

There are strict laws now on accessability and unless these group of people can use this device the phone maker could be in for slot of trouble.

HAHA!!

Apple has already filed for this patent... teir "advanced" multitouch interface uses optical sensors in the display to sence where your finger is and where its heading, etc.

Apr 19, 08 - 03:20 am Comment from: HMCIV

What does the phone do in your pocket if you accidentally sneeze? Nevermind I don't want to know.

Apr 19, 08 - 06:54 am Comment from: Hm...

Well...

I just tried one. I gave it "the bird" — it immediately dialed the White House and both the Senate & House for a conference call. What a smart phone!

Apr 19, 08 - 06:58 am Comment from: Hm...

After the conference was over, I put the phone in my pocket. A lovely sweet young thing went walking by. Then "Something came up" — it immediately sent a text message to Elliot asking for directions. What a smart phone!

Nokia will (most likely) enter the touch phone market later this year with a haptic feedback screen.

You press a key on the screen, and it clicks under your finger with exactly the same sort of fingertip feedback as if you’d pressed a conventional keyboard key.

Yes ..this is old news, but it hasnt been implemented in Nokia phones until (most likely) now.

http://www.redferret.net/?p=9533

Apr 19, 08 - 09:00 am Comment from: ichi

@bioness...

roflmfnao. oh the possibilities when one's been UP all night.

re: Nokia will (most likely) enter the touch phone market later this year with a haptic feedback screen.

You press a key on the screen, and it clicks under your finger with exactly the same sort of fingertip feedback as if you’d pressed a conventional keyboard key.

Yes ..this is old news, but it hasnt been implemented in Nokia phones until (most likely) now.


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Too late!

Sounds like the Apple 'multi-touch' patent to me.

Good luck Nokia trying to get that one passed.

@Petey

Nope, Nokia has been working on this for many years (I assume they have patented it, but don't know for sure). Remeber that we are only talking about the tactile response part - not the multi-touch technology in large.

As it states in the article, the technology itself isnt hard, its the finetunning that has taken so long..