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Signs point to Apple adding to their 30 million Mac users via ‘iPod Halo Effect’
Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 09:36 AM EST

"Some analysts say that bringing the iPod to Windows was the marketing move that made the iPod the white-hot commodity it is today. But could it do more? While analysts say it is too early to tell whether the iPod will directly boost Mac sales, there are signs that it could tease users away from Windows. Rod Bare, an Apple analyst at Morningstar, forecasts that iMac sales will grow from 3.3 million at the end of 2004 to 4 million by 2006, which would mean a slight increase in Apple’s computer share," Red Herring reports.

"Apple’s chief financial officer Peter Oppenheimer said in the fourth quarter earnings call that the iPod’s popularity has upped Mac sales. Mr. Oppenheimer said that the number of Mac buyers at Apple stores who are first-time computer users or who are switching from Windows holds at a steady 45 to 50 percent," Red Herring reports. "There is a lot of room for Apple to grow. Apple’s PC share has been falling since 1995. It currently holds a slim but steady 2 percent - an estimated 30 million - of the worldwide PC market."

"At the very least the iPod will expose the Mac to Windows users. Charles Wolf, an analyst at Needham & Company, said that up to 95 percent of the iPod’s owners are Windows users. 'If they like the iPod, if they think it’s got a great interface they might go to Apple and take a look at the new iMac, the new PowerBook,' said Van Baker, a consumer electronics analyst at Gartner in San Jose. 'From that perspective it presents an opportunity to leverage the brand.' In addition, other analysts said that the iPod’s success was a sign that Apple was shifting its focus to consumer electronics," Red Herring reports.

"'The PC is no longer driving the firm and [the iPod] is really transforming the company,' said Rob Enderle, principal analyst with the Enderle Group in San Jose. 'If we draw a line and show their focus on consumer electronics and PCs, eventually they would move solidly into consumer electronics. Something like that won’t happen overnight, but that is the path they are on.' Morningstar’s Mr. Bare cautioned investors not to get carried away by the iPod hype. 'Apple does need to maintain the computer business, they have so much invested in it,' he said," Red Herring reports.

Full article here.

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Oct 26, 04 - 09:54 am Comment from: me

The iPod Halo Effect is more than just people liking iPod/iTunes. It's the coolness factor and brand recognition associated with the iPod. Apple is a hot company right now with cool products. People have noticed.

Now if only Apple would advertise OSX.

Oct 26, 04 - 09:55 am Comment from: Good News Girl

"The PC is no longer driving the firm"

uh-oh...that is not good news.

Oct 26, 04 - 09:59 am Comment from: Smithy

I wonder why these people who have an iPod and a PC still own the latter...

You can lead a horse to water...

Oct 26, 04 - 10:00 am Comment from: theloniusMac

Signs point to the edge of a cliff for even the most Wyle E. Coyote, if he ain't careful...

Ordering up those ACME business plans.

Oct 26, 04 - 10:01 am Comment from: Ed

""The PC is no longer driving the firm"

uh-oh...that is not good news."

Don't worry, Rob Enderle said it. He's about as accurate as Thurrott.

Oct 26, 04 - 10:02 am Comment from: One guy from Finland

Signs point to AAPL $200

Oct 26, 04 - 10:08 am Comment from: Guest Poster #500,000,079.53

Everyone should write to Red Herring and tell them Enderle is now widely discredited in the tech world.

Rob is now the principal analyst at Enderle Group because they now have a second, Mary Enderle. She's not as good as Rob yet but they're working at it.

Oct 26, 04 - 10:11 am Comment from: theloniusMac

iPod uPod we all pod for lack of market share?

Hey Mr. Kerry! What's on your iPod?

The Presidential Debates
The Vice Presidential Debates
Mao's Little Red Book
(As read by Susan Sarandon)
The Dixie Chicks sing "I'm Just a Bill"
The Joseph Goebbels guide to political campaigns

Oct 26, 04 - 10:22 am Comment from: Newmanstein

Enderle is no longer pooping Apple directly...instead, he is subtly painting Apple's focus away from the computer and towards the iPod. Technically, he is correct...the iPod is the hottest thing on the planet, but his real and true intentions are to poop the Mac. He is proven biased with intent to harm and if a little positive towards the iPod in order to do so works, he will do it, and then later he will find a way to poop the iPod. This guy, his wife, and Thurrawthroat are out
to hurt Apple, period. Their noses are brown and will remain so to Win$in.

Oct 26, 04 - 10:30 am Comment from: effwerd

Hey GW, what's on your iPod?

My Pet Goat

Oct 26, 04 - 10:33 am Comment from: M. T. MacPhee

'If we draw a line and show their focus on consumer electronics and PCs, eventually they would move solidly into consumer electronics."

Somebody please help me. My Microsoftian is simply not up to the task of deciphering what Microsoftians say. What does this mean, exactly?

Oh. It's Enderle. Never mind.

Mike

Oct 26, 04 - 10:36 am Comment from: Bradford

Hey Effwierd what's on your ipod?

Who cares you pedophile!

Oct 26, 04 - 10:42 am Comment from: DavidO

I doubt that I would have signed up to be a "zealous MacHead" if it hadn't been for the existence of despicable, self-serving turkeys like the Endereles and Thurrotts and such.

Oct 26, 04 - 11:08 am Comment from: Daddysteve

Who and how big is this "Enderle Group?"

Oct 26, 04 - 11:08 am Comment from: Reality Check

Yeah Apple should switch to consumer electronics, insignificant percentage cares about their PCs. Uh, wait, what's when the iPod hype is over? Ouch.

Oct 26, 04 - 11:14 am Comment from: drofdarb

Hey Bradford, pull your head in. Talk about off topic!

Oct 26, 04 - 11:20 am Comment from: mike

gah! 4 million by 2006! those really are modest figures, huh! YIKES!

Quick, license a stripped down version of OS X for X86 now!!!

Oct 26, 04 - 11:23 am Comment from: mac dood

mike

WHAT.. are you smokin ??

Oct 26, 04 - 11:25 am Comment from: AlanAudio

Enderle's hope is that as Apple now have a successful product that isn't actually a Mac, Apple will give up on producing the Mac.

Anybody with a modicum of sense can see that the success of the iPod will actually strengthen the Mac and that the iPod was only possible because of the Mac, but Enderle isn't blessed with even that modicum of sense.

He's just found a different way to express his fantasy that Apple's days might be numbered.

Co-incidentally, he's also found a different way of making himself look even more stupid.

Oct 26, 04 - 11:26 am Comment from: mike

oh.. wait.. Apple's only sellilng 2 million a year currently, right?

Oct 26, 04 - 11:31 am Comment from: Charko

The article is very mediocre.

It states the obvious and contains silly school-masterly warnings - for example, how Apple shouldn't ignore the computer side of their business.

Anybody whose done any sort of research into Apple knows this is far from being the case.

And then to top it all he quotes Enderle!

Proof positive of his lack of expertise and insight.

Oct 26, 04 - 11:39 am Comment from: NightOwl

Quick, license a stripped down version of OS X for X86 now!!!

1: PC users would buy it droves, but it would take 10-30x the sales at $99 to equal one Mac.

2: It would kill Mac hardware sales.

3: PC users would steal it anyway.


No more Apple.

Unless it got M$ blessing, then everybody would be using Mac OS X.

All M$ has to do is fix their OS, adopt a UNIX core, and make it as nice as Mac OS X, Apple knows this and it would be game over.

Apple can innovate and change faster, but it doesn't mean Microsoft is dead in the water.

Oct 26, 04 - 11:39 am Comment from: MacJack

Apple still values the Mac - it's just cultivating its niche markets of digital video, science etc.

Oct 26, 04 - 11:56 am Comment from: MacBuddy

"The PC is no longer driving the firm and [the iPod] is really transforming the company," said Rob 'know-nothing-know-it-all' Enderle, principal analyst with the two-man Enderle 'Group'.

Rob, get out your FuzzyMath Calculator and subtract 23 from 100. 23 being the percentage of Apple's business coming from iPod sales. Where is the other 77% of Apple's earnings coming from?

I suspect - as others have pointed out - that this cheerleading for the iPod's success is actually veiled cheerleading for your wet dream of having only Windows to 'choose from'.

Oct 26, 04 - 12:02 pm Comment from: Buffy

The problem with porting OS X to x86 is not Windows competition or # of sales needed, its programs, porting to x86 would not mean you could automaticly play all those PC games youve been wanting.

Oct 26, 04 - 12:28 pm Comment from: mike

Night Owl... that's why it's stripped down.. kinda like MS Windows Starter Version..

It wouldn't run too many progs at once and would just be a tideover until PC users could get Macs.. it would cost $79.

Oct 26, 04 - 12:30 pm Comment from: mike

it would also mean more mac ports.. which is the ONLY benefit of having a big marketshare (apple can make money off other things)

Oct 26, 04 - 12:33 pm Comment from: mike

it would also mean more mac ports.. which is the ONLY benefit of having a big marketshare (apple can make money off other things)

Oct 26, 04 - 03:08 pm Comment from: Road Warrior

Enderle Group?
I thought it was the Enderle Grope, available on Steve Ballmer's son's iPod.

Oct 26, 04 - 03:22 pm Comment from: twdldee

I don't care if the iPod is the best thing since the laptop. Macs are superior computers. I got off my Mac after 12 hours of continual use, and got onto a PC that was supposed to be 'faster' and was really frustrated at how slow the POS was. For personal computing, second best is a long way off.

Oct 26, 04 - 03:24 pm Comment from: twdldee

Apple's really rockin' though. G5 iMac, iBook bump, new iPods, new iTunes. Damn, guys, I mean, keep on producing, just don't burn out on us!

Oct 26, 04 - 03:56 pm Comment from: moiety5

Yeah, they just need to do a revamp of AppleWorks and (with Tiger) I can be satisfied [for the moment].

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