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Oct 06, 08 - 11:49 am Comment from: oh no my shorts

Tokyo, start your copiers.

OMG does Apple know this? They should design one just like it.....oh wait!

Oct 06, 08 - 11:50 am Comment from: Macintosher

Idiots. Don't they know about creative copyright?

Sony's computers are so s-l-o-w too. Don't you dare buy one. Honestly, a VAIO laptop can take up to 30 minutes to do a standard boot-up. Normally, without antivirus or anything. How rubbish (my MacBook takes 45 seconds)!

HA! Love the sarcasm in the article.

Oct 06, 08 - 11:56 am Comment from: Jay-Z

When I saw that image a few days ago I was like "wow, they're not even TRYING to make it like they did this themselves any more."

Once upon a time Sony was an innovative company… A long long time ago. Sony is dead now.

People steal ideas from other people all the time. Nice that Sony spent some time to design their computer and not make it look exactly like an iMac. I have to admit that it's a nice design and if i was looking for a Windows computer, i'd consider it. I'm curious how thick it is and how it looks from the back. That's the REAL test to see if this design is interesting or not.

Oct 06, 08 - 12:04 pm Comment from: flappo

apple shoulda bought sony when they had the chance

Once upon a time Sony was THE byword for originality and style.

With offerings like this, it's just plain tragic how far the company seems to have fallen.

It's hard to believe how the suits at Sony Central can talk fast enough to keep their jobs, when they encourage such derivative products.

Oct 06, 08 - 12:07 pm Comment from: shen

can't wait till Apple speaks up about this new process on the 14th or so and this thing looks old before release.....

I'm reading this article on my 20" iMac which cost me $1,144; added a 2 GB RAM module for $50 or so. It's the real thing, and better looking than this knock-off.

@come on, it's a nice looking computer:

You can see how thick it is. The whole thing's as thick as the base. At least 3". There might be a hump on the back as well.

Oct 06, 08 - 12:14 pm Comment from: theloniousMac

Uh, it's quite attractive.

I've heard of imitation being the sincerest form of flatery, but is the Sony Vaio JS1 the ultimate tribute to his Steveness?

Can this really be the 'JobsSan1' ?

The Sony All-in-One series already is an iMac ripoff, but this is even more so. Sadly, if we get this in at my work, customers will likely come in and go "Oooh, what's that, it's so new and cool" And I'll be like "It's a Sony all-in-one computer. The computer is behind the monitor. It's the same ideas as the iMac."

Frankly, I'm convinced that a lot of people who come in and admire the 24" Aluminum iMac that is on display think it's just a monitor.

Indeed. This photo really shows off how fat this thing is.

http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/vaiojs1/1003863425

Oct 06, 08 - 12:35 pm Comment from: oh no my shorts

Gaak! It's got a big thick R2D2-type leg in the back to support it!

They ought to call it the Sony iLack

..as in Sony lacks a mind of its own.

How did a company as great as Sony was in the 80s get to be so awful today? But then again, for a while, Apple wasn't looking so hot either.

I guess it just takes the right kind of leadership.

"People steal ideas from other people all the time."

Uh huh. The key is to not get caught, right?

"[Trade Dress] Infringement

A trade dress registration is infringed by the unauthorized use of the registered trade dress, or of one that is confusingly similar to it, on the registered goods or services, or in certain circumstances on similar or dissimilar goods and services. This occurs when a company uses the trade dress of another company, which may result in confusion or deception of consumers. To prove trade dress infringement, a plaintiff must show 1) that the product is either inherently distinctive or has acquired a secondary meaning and 2) that there is a likelihood of confusion between plaintiff’s packaging and defendant’s packaging."

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_dress#Infringement)

On the other hand:

"Good artists copy; great artists steal." - Steve Jobs

(This is a favorite phrase of Jobs, but he is (mis)quoting Pablo Picasso. "Lesser artists borrow; great artists steal" is similarly attributed to Igor Stravinsky, but both sayings may well originate in T. S. Eliot's dictum: "Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different.")

(http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs)

Oct 06, 08 - 12:46 pm Comment from: Cubert

Even the keyboard is a ripoff!

This is a nice looking rip-off. Something Sony is good at.

Better to have the real thing.

Oct 06, 08 - 12:56 pm Comment from: Cubert

The real test is how does it feel to the touch - cheap or not?

Oct 06, 08 - 12:59 pm Comment from: KingMel

"Frankly, I'm convinced that a lot of people who come in and admire the 24" Aluminum iMac that is on display think it's just a monitor."

@Jacob, you speak the truth. And they think that the Mac mini is just a CD/DVD drive, too. Honestly, I took some relatives into an Apple Store and I had to tell them several times that the computer was in that little box, too.

Oct 06, 08 - 12:59 pm Comment from: Cubert

@oh no my shorts,

"Gaak! It's got a big thick R2D2-type leg in the back to support it!"

You're right! Look at the Gizmodo pics. Sony goes out of its way to hide that thing.

Looks like Apple stole Sony's design, they just got it to market a few years earlier.

I'd like to see a sign or on-screen display of something like that for the iMac so people don't think it's just the monitor.

Oct 06, 08 - 01:58 pm Comment from: John

oooh, just looked at the gizmodo photos. Ouch, that thing is just a plastic Sony TV stuck in a (thick) aluminum cage, with an ugly leg behind it. Really unattractive when you see it from any angle but the one shown in this article. Booo--can't even copy the iMac well!

Oct 06, 08 - 01:59 pm Comment from: alansky

Imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery, but it is also the surest sign of ineptitude.

Oct 06, 08 - 02:02 pm Comment from: OBill-Wan Kenobi

Poor Sony, I don't know what happened to them, they used to make such cool stuff. They had the Beta Max back in the 80's, those sleek 900 mHz phones w/ the swappable batteries back in the early 90's (I had the black set). They had the best looking cell phones in the late 90's (although they weren't the best build quality - ergo Sony Ericsson). I guess they've lost all their good designers...too bad.

Oct 06, 08 - 02:42 pm Comment from: thethirdshoe

Doesn't Sony have an American CEO (or something) now?

Dear twisted MDN: Apple is limiting Sony from using MacOS.

This looks like a design Jonathan Ive might have considered and rejected. Still better looking than the typical, but not as functional. Looks like it has a huge underbite!

I bet it has Blu-Ray. Something the iMac lacks.

It's actually quite an impressive looking machine. If Apple had designed it, people here would be all over it.

Admit it. You like it. Go on... say it... I... L-L-L-l-l-l-ike it.

There you go... Now, don't you feel better?

"Sony has opted for the old-fashioned kind with an actual pop-out disk tray..." Good! Some of us actually prefer trays over slots. At least for me, slot-loading drives have proven to be very unreliable.

I purchased an iBook just as Apple was beginning its switch from PowerPC to Intel; I needed to run a few critical programs in Classic. The slot-loading SuperDrive in my iBook was nothing but trouble. Even after Apple attempted to repair my iBook, its optical drive still damaged my CDs and made horrible grinding noises.

I also had to replace my car stereo a few years ago, because a CD got stuck in the stereo's slot-loading drive -- damaging the CD player.

Oh my goodness. How low can you go? No freaking originality.

Oct 06, 08 - 05:58 pm Comment from: MacLovin

can we sue these bastards???

Where's the arrow keys? MAJOR problem right there.

Oct 06, 08 - 08:39 pm Comment from: Mac Daddy

I have to say, it's much better looking than anything from Dell. In that way, we can say that Sony is still on top of their game. I guess.

At the end of the day, it still only runs Windoze... I rest my case

@Macintosher

Your macbook takes 45 seconds to load... are you serious?

It takes around 15-25 seconds for my macbook

Sony faces the same problem as HP and Dell, Acer and so many other PC makers. They are box makers. That is all. Their grasp of the PC franchise is very fragile because none of them owns 'the whole widget' as Apple does with the Mac and the OS X platform across all its products and ... the PC is fast becoming a commodity, with barest margins to match. Although HP and Sony are strong brands with fine products in other areas eg instrumentation and consumer electronics, they are passengers in the PC marketplace. Only Apple can claim the driving seat in this space. It will take time for the world and Wall Street to finally get it. Apple is the only company that truly own the PC market. Even Microspoof is worried. Right now they dare not make a PC because they would feel the ire of every PC maker. But give it time and they will do it because they will have to and anyway, they never hesitate to screw their friends and business partners.
Sony and Dell can only resort to copying the look of a great, best-selling computer to try and fool the gullible PC buyer (and there are many of these dimwits) that their PC is really an iMac too. It is pathetic. Akio Morita would be ashamed of the company he founded. Michael Dell doesn't understand words like shame and brand investment.
So what else is new, eh?

These copycats are everywhere:

http://www.krunker.com/2008/05/17/averatec-all-in-one-pc/

I think you're right. I always have friends coming up to me and asking if it (iMac) has the whole computer built in already. I say yes, but on the inside, I'm in shock about how they don't know this already. Some people don't even know Macs can run Windows, yet. I believe if more people knew, they would buy a Mac. There's still more misunderstanding of them than we think

Oct 17, 08 - 11:26 pm Comment from: since1985

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