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Vista is clearly better (if you happen to be in a Microsoft controlled environment on a Microsoft set-up computer!)

Jul 29, 08 - 04:32 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

Barad Dür.

Wings,
You can have my Vista for 50% list price. Slower than molasses.

Jul 29, 08 - 04:36 pm Comment from: Brau

The problem with MicroSoft's blind test is that all the subjects were given new computers set up by MS. I doubt the response would have been quite so glowing if they had been given a mere Vista upgrade on their old PC or tried setting it up on a custom built PC where their older peripherals are often not supported or deemed "unauthorized", sometimes leaving the user with "reduced functionality".

Chrissyone!

Jul 29, 08 - 04:50 pm Comment from: Macromancer

B...b...but MOJAVE!

Jul 29, 08 - 04:51 pm Comment from: Jubei

So MS tricks their very customers and basically makes them idiots? Is that what Mojave is all about?

Jul 29, 08 - 05:05 pm Comment from: ron

Mojave is a desert, with a Vista gasping for water, or ANY relief.

Just wait till Apple comes out with the iTele running on Snow Leopard. Apple's ability to put forth intergalactic teleportation for the masses will be the final nail in Microsoft's coffin.

Could anyone imagine a teleportation device running on Vista. I know I couldn't.

The problem with MicroSoft's blind test is that all the subjects were given new computers set up by MS.

Which should be criminal.

Imagine an automotive "test drive" that consisted only of dedicated units that were specially babied by their engineers, versus the mass-produced models on the lot that you can actually buy.

Such a test would be meaningless at best, and could be considered fraud.

Gotta love the crap MS gets away with.

I'd much rather work in a heterogeneous work environment than a homogeneous one.
If you know what I mean.

Ballmer makes one Fugly Sauron.

Jul 29, 08 - 05:28 pm Comment from: treestman

Obviously, this survey is flawed..

HP is selling most of their computers with Vista "licenses" pre-installed with Windows XP. This $300 million marketing campaign for Vista is desperation, because Microsoft knows it's not going to have the replacement for Vista ready until 2012 at the earliest. They can't have their OEM partners installing stealth XP until XP is ten years old.

Alternately, Microsoft can release Windows XP Service Pack 4 as "Windows 7." They can probably do that by the end of 2009. It's apparently what customers want; it should sell better than Vista.

I was checking out http://www.mojaveexperiment.com/ .

By Scott, what a bad page. First, it autoplays a video! Pisses me off.

Then, the video player displays a play triangle while playing, and a pause icon while paused. ?!? WTF? Any other player does it the other way around!

Plus, the funky, cool, mouse following animation is kinda neat, but carries exactly zero information. If Vista was really better, they could present some hard, cold data to prove it. They can't. That's why they have to resort to a stupid 'candid camera' stunt.

Face it... professional IT folks just do not buy crap... let alone turds!

The sooner M$ understands this the better off their going to be!

I guess they could start pushing M$'s new ball... it might be ready for the market in 15 to 30 years!

Jul 29, 08 - 05:49 pm Comment from: Rainer

@ken1-w

The problem is that in a couple of years, even Linux may be ready to overtake XP (overtake, not leap-frog...)
OEMs could then just sign a contract with Canonical/RHAT/NOVL for the portion of the customers that need it and be set.
Once people don't have Windows on the desktop anymore, most of the rest of the "Windows-franchise" (file-servers, Sharepoint, SQL, Exchange, whatever) also loses most of it's attraction. At that point, MSFT would be in really big trouble.

So MSFT is really under pressure from several sides: customers defecting to AAPL, AAPL themselves by setting de-facto standards in new markets, and finally MSFT's OEMs that have to look more or less helplessly as AAPL climbs the above mentioned sales-rankings.
If they don't come out with something good soon, the successful two-trick-pony-show that Microsoft has been for the last 20 years might end rather abruptly.

Jul 29, 08 - 05:58 pm Comment from: MacSmiley

Interesting how MSFT has to resort to deceit and deception to get people to use its product! They don't even give a Coke vs. Pepsi choice to these people!

That "mojave experiment" was just viral PR bullshit dreamed up by Microsoft's ad agency to go along with their "people used to believe the earth was flat" campaign.

There has been no public video posted to backup that this experiment actually took place, no one outside of Microsoft has been shown any video to back up that this experiment took place, and we're only hearing about the glowing testimonials the subjects allegedly gave second-hand from Microsoft...so you KNOW you can trust the information.

Bookmark it. You're never going to see the video of "the mojave experiment", because it's pure ad copy start to finish.

Jul 29, 08 - 06:06 pm Comment from: Spark

Over at ComputerWorld the MS marketing money is already having results. You should see the plethora of new articles this past week that "re-evaluate Vista", or explain how surveys such as the one here are just wrong, how IT experts have now come around and are embracing Vista. The flood of pro Vista articles is downright amusing as we watch publishers begin to salivate over the huge MS media spend expected to happen. Won't it be funny if the much ballyhooed media budget is as vaporous as most of MS's announcements?

PS: ChrissyOne, great post! LOL

Jul 29, 08 - 06:47 pm Comment from: iDon't

VISTA is nice if you never get online or use your PC.

Jul 29, 08 - 07:16 pm Comment from: alansky

The worst thing about being on a sinking ship is that the passengers are the last to know.

Jul 29, 08 - 07:25 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ alansky

The best thing about a sinking ship is that the captain goes down with it.

{fingers crossed}

What's amusing are the continued prognostications of M$'s imminent demise and Apple's/*nix' sudden dominance across all environments. No limit to the Jobsian RDF I guess...

Jul 29, 08 - 07:42 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

@ Another IT Guy...

No one here predicts Apple's dominance across all environments.

Stop talking.

hell, even that Mojave website looks like Apple website... oh so creative!!

"hell, even that Mojave website looks like Apple website... oh so creative!!"

And when Steve releases Mac OS X Mojave as the replacement for Snow Job Leopard, you'll all think the "New" Mac OS is wonderful too!

And developers will love the new Mac OS X Mojave API, and it will be 100% binary compatible with Windows!

Jul 29, 08 - 10:13 pm Comment from: motopsyco

I miss Zune Tang

Jul 29, 08 - 10:46 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

"Snow Job Leopard"

That makes my 3 year old laugh every time! It just never gets old!!!

Jul 30, 08 - 08:51 am Comment from: ElderNorm

I guess the WOW starts now.......er.....I mean now........

Hmmmm.......maybe ....... now????

Soon??

What a crock, this Mojave experiment!!! A bunch of paid actors making the WOW claims.

However, if anyone ever finds it, it may sell, or not.

Mean while back at Redmond "..rising black, blacker and darker than the vast shades amid which it stood, the cruel pinnacles and iron crown of the topmost tower of Barad-dûr..."