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I've given up on Symantec's products on my PC and Mac.

LOL! LOL!

Ain't this IRONIC!?

Screw symantec ... they are liars and cheats ... and their software sucks.

They should worry about their own software instead of spreading FUD about OSX ...

Symantec. Come onnnnnnn. I've seen better anti-virus products peddled by vendors at street fairs! Yeh-heh-hessssss. I mean, really, when's the last time this company was on anyone's radar? Probably when the Spice Girls were breaking eardrums coast-to-coast. Seriously, the Spice Girls -- there's another reason everyone should have a good "anti-virus package", if you know what I mean. Hey, I keed, I keed. But really, Symantec reminds me of the bratty kid who pushes his way to the front of the group when they come to your door on Halloween. Yeh-heh-hesss. You know the one -- always wanting more candy and threatening to egg your house. So I do to Symantec what I do to kids like that . . .

I POOP ON THEM ! ! ! ! ! !

So, are they going to give a patch to stop this hole for my companies 10 computers, or do I need to buy this update at a premium price.

Symantec Sucks, Always has.

To Symantec:
Like the man said- "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".
BTW as to security, Richard Clarke uses a Mac and he served 3 US Presidents as an expert in these kind of things. Maybe he knows something Symantec doesn't know, or doesn't want you to know.

Note that this is NAV for Windows. NAV for Mac doesn't have these problems.

Peter Norton's orginal utilities were great. Symantec bought him out and ruined everything he created.

The Original utilities did what they claimed to do. The new stuff by Symantec just do not work.

My wife left Symantec in 2000 when their new CEO arrived and started hacking and slashing tech support and customer service. Shortly thereafter Symantec started charging for virus update subscriptions, phone support, and other services. They've been going downhill fast ever since. But for the massive security failures in Windows OS they'd be broke by now.

Triumph -- Oh how I would LOVE to be able to do that to one little sh*t who always comes to my door! Or better yet, just throw a heaping pile right in the lone brat's bag. AHHH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HAAAHHHHH!!!

Unbelievable!

Did they just say that Apple is crap?

If Symantec can secure it's Anti-Virus, and Microsoft has secured it's Windows OS, why can't Apple keep it's iTunes Music Store secure?!?!

MDN has some fairly decent articles... but to be completely honest, I come back for Triumph's posts.

Yeh-heh-hesss.

first we patch the system, now must must patch the antivirus software. where does this end?

Well, hate to disagree with mrw0lf, but Triumph's posts--esp. his tired "p**p on" refrain--got old by about the second time he posted.

Nah, I love the Triumph posts. Sometimes he nails it even better than MDN's take.

Actually, Symantec's antivirus for Windows (Norton antivirus) is about the best commercial AV I've found. Not that that's saying a whole lot, really, the whole software category is at best a necessary evil and even when they have the best of intentions it's almost impossible to put as many patches into an OS as they do and not cause SOME problems. Norton, at least, can be removed cleanly and has not rendered a system unbootable when I tried to upgrade or remove it... which every other AV has done one time or another.

Peter - Isn't it kinda sad when one of the few positive things to be said about any software product is that it can be removed easily? Sure seems that way to me...

Triumph is da BOMB!

He's so frickin funny

So the software that stops you getting a virus now slows your PeeCee down cause it's getting "attacked"... talk about a catch 22 situation!

Some people will actually put up with this crap? I've been 100% Mac (work & play) for 7 years now and never had things like happen - EVER! I've had 1 single hard drive failure on my iBook - I backup daily so only lost a few photos, nothing too serious.

Our office is a fun place to work. It's because we don't have Windows, we just get on with our jobs using tools that simply allow us to work without worry. If I had a car that required as much attention as Windows, I'd never make it to the end of my road without breaking down.

Just my $0.02

Symantec having organisational problems?
I've had a trojan on my computer for a month installing itself, reappearing, etc. I sent the file to Symantec with the response these files are not virus's. On May 18th symantec released an update for this and I finally captured 10 infected files.

How does Symantec capture new viruses? How fast do they build a remedy?

Indian frontline support sucks. However, the technical guys/gals (if you persist you will talk to them via email) seems very knowledgeable and have even developed their own improved versions on how to handle problems (separately from the HQ organisation).

My vote is on core product focus.