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Tech Pundit Enderle: ‘This year will be more difficult for Apple Computer’ and iMacs in earthquakes
Monday, January 24, 2005 - 03:10 PM EST

"I’m not a fan of the current iMac, the PC in a monitor has been done before and the new offering has relatively poor ergonomics (when compared to the old iMac), is less distinctive, and is far less stable.  I live in California, earthquake country, and the old iMac was one of the most stable products in its class, the new one places the weight too high and relies on a base that is too narrow making it likely that it would fall.  Falling glass can be a huge hazard in a home late at night when you are trying to get the kids and family to safety during an earthquake," Rob Enderle writes for DesignTechnica.

MacDailyNews Note: There is no breakable glass in the iMac G5. It's an LCD.*

Enderle writes, "It amazes me the halo that Apple seems to have over its operations.  Yes it has returned to popularity and profitability, and yes it has one stunningly successful product in the iPod, a product largely based on a third party offering called Portal Player.   Apple’s PCs, which at one time were largely based on Apple intellectual property are now largely based on IP from IBM and the FreeBSD community, and the firm survives on what many feel is the best marketing effort of any of the vendors in its class."

With the iPod shuffle, "Apple now enters with a high cost player without a display which would seem, well, kind of stupid except for the capacity of the thing.  It does have more capacity than most at the same price point today (but that will change before the end of this quarter).  This seems to me to be a value play (we are the least expensive) and typically that play is not made by a premium vendor like Apple for fear of damaging the brand.   $100 is a very popular price point and when you realize that products with more capability will be selling very soon for less you have to really wonder if Apple is watching the market.  Perhaps it is time for Apple to go to CES so that they too can see what is coming.   Running a company, like driving, is incredibly dangerous with your eyes closed," Endlere writes.

Apple's new Mac mini "is simply another me-too offering from a company which hasn’t done particularly well with me-to offerings over time.   Yes they will likely sell more of these than they will iMacs.  However, that will largely be because iMac sales will have declined as a result of shifting demand to the more popular, and more flexible, lower cost offering... iWork "is a simple product for the casual user, arguably what Microsoft Works should be but isn’t.  Of the products presented this is arguably the best.   The only risk is that it might upset Microsoft and the core group that has been incredibly supportive of Apple over the years... it would have been better had Apple looped Microsoft into this decision and worked on better interoperability between the two products rather than what was likely a blind side release embarrassing the Apple supporters in Microsoft. Sometimes it isn’t what you do, but how you do it that defines a company."

Enderle concludes, "Apple exists largely because Xerox didn’t want to take a risk with a graphical user interface and a mouse.   But revenue at any cost has its price and, even with stunning marketing covering up critical mistakes, eventually the chickens come home to roost.   They didn’t come home to roost last quarter.  Apple did very well and actually grew in line with or ahead of Dell, HP and Gateway suggesting they held market share for once.  But this year will be more difficult.  The competition is becoming much more fierce and Apple’s offerings aren’t as interesting."

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: We believe that the innovation exuded by Gateway and the vision of the future embodied by Michael Dell could lead Apple Computer in the right direction, but only if chickens are appointed to the company's Board of Directors and Steve Jobs is replaced with a bowling ball, or Steve Ballmer, whichever comes cheaper. Sometimes it gets very windy in Tornado Alley, so it's good to have a monitor that is really wide at the bottom and tapers to a point like a pyramid. We like pudding, mice, and foam. Wintel box assemblers' foresight and quest for excellence are good examples for Apple to emulate as long as they look to ant colonies' construction methods while eating as many pancakes as possible. Once, we crossed our eyes for so long that we got headaches and had to go to bed. Our dogs can speak English and a little broken Spanish, but you can't hear them unless you're breathing air. Yesterday we walked along a telephone pole and sent email messages via smoke signals and later swam through a huge piece of granite. Giant eggs are good, but cellophane wrap is better.

Mr. Enderle and MacDailyNews now conclude this test of the Illogical Nonsense Writing Out of our Asses system.

*LCD stands for Liquid Crystal Display. Apple's iMac G5 features such a display. Of course it contains glass. The "MacDailyNews Note" above was meant to be humorous, as it was part of the "nonsense section" of the article. Sorry for the confusion. And the LCD is, of course, a HUGE hazard during an earthquake, especially when one is trying to get the kids and family to safety. It's another great reason to steer clear of Apple's iMac G5. LCDs and earthquakes just do not mix. [Added disclaimer at 10:37pm ET after reading some of the reader feedback comments.]

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Jan 24, 05 - 03:46 pm Comment from: Mac Yak

Best take yet, MDN!

ROFLMAO!

"End here, Lee"

Jan 24, 05 - 03:46 pm Comment from: BSOD

I don't exactly have any deep insight to offer here. I would just like to note that Enderle is such a transparent imbecile. His rantings would be laugh out loud humorous if I didn't know he actually believed his own drivel. Pathetic.

MDN magic word: wrote... as in, can you believe the crap that this idiot wrote?

Jan 24, 05 - 03:47 pm Comment from: ABQ Peter

it is good to see that some things never change. he does sound just a little bit silly though.

Jan 24, 05 - 03:48 pm Comment from: R

Hahahahahahahaha!

Jan 24, 05 - 03:50 pm Comment from: TN_Buc_Fan

Good to know good ol' Enderle is still there making and ass out of himself. It was scaring me a little with all the good press apple's been getting. Without the Enderle jinx, we might be screwed. BTW - Is his biggest complaint about the new imac that it might get damaged in an earthquake? Holy crap.

Jan 24, 05 - 03:51 pm Comment from: Enderle's Ass

I can assure you that THIS ass is entrance only.

Jan 24, 05 - 03:51 pm Comment from: king_alvarez

Like usual, Enderle is making claims without any real facts to back them up.

"$100 is a very popular price point and when you realize that products with more capability will be selling very soon for less you have to really wonder if Apple is watching the market."
-more features does not equal more popularity or better product.

"The only risk is that it might upset Microsoft and the core group that has been incredibly supportive of Apple over the years"
- MS already said that iWork doesn't change support of Office on the Mac.

"Apple exists largely because Xerox didn’t want to take a risk with a graphical user interface and a mouse"
- So that's supposed to mean that Apple hasn't made one useful or marketable thing in the last 20 years?

Jan 24, 05 - 03:51 pm Comment from: Neil

Didn't Enderle write another article last week praising Apple's performance and new offerings?

Most, if not almost all, would say that Apple are in the strongest position for years.

Most of Apple's consumer lines have or will soon be refreshed.

Plus the new products are apparently selling like hotcakes.

It seems to me that this guy does not know what he is talking about.

Jan 24, 05 - 03:53 pm Comment from: tango

Last Saturday I went to an Apple Store to get a Mini. I got there 20 min. after the store oppened. They were all sold out. Then, I drove to a mini-Apple Store, I experienced the same luck.
I think the Mini is a big hit!. They'll keep sales up for this quater before the unvailing of the new Power Macs and Power Books.

Jan 24, 05 - 03:53 pm Comment from: Macaday

The man has lost it - completely and utterly.

The time has come to feel very, very sorry for him.

Jan 24, 05 - 03:54 pm Comment from: solarflare

What the fsck has earthquakes got to do with the design of the Imac???

Im sure Dell do throught earthquake testing on the designs of their crap boxes - NOT!!!

This guy is making any old crap up just to retain the coveted title of 'Journalist'.

The guy needs to get a life!!

Jan 24, 05 - 03:55 pm Comment from: CitizenX

LOL... yeah.. .bring on the clones!

Apple competes in the market of iDeas. LOL. Insanely Great products and as long as they continue to do that, they will survive. The Mac has always been the computer for the rest of us. The original Mac made that proclamation and the Mac Mini has finally made it a reality.

These people don't know that Apple is in the drivers seat with a car full of back seat drivers (dell, M$, HP, Roxio, iRiver, Creative and others) all shouting about a different way to go.

Jan 24, 05 - 03:56 pm Comment from: Chomper

Dear Enderle:

Your a tool...

Jan 24, 05 - 03:57 pm Comment from: Steve Ballmer

Enderly (or is it Elderly) is an idiot. Go back to sleep, man.

Jan 24, 05 - 03:59 pm Comment from: 3 Tacos and a coke, please.

Question to Enderly:

Why do you hate Macs?
What did Macs ever do to you?
Are you guilty of something?

Jan 24, 05 - 04:01 pm Comment from: java

word: girls

Now that Thurrot is firmly in the apple camp Enderle is starting to rage like a lonely bull in a china shop.

Being from California I say "Stop being such a girlie-boy!"

Jan 24, 05 - 04:01 pm Comment from: bvd

Too freakin' funny to write anything constructive.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:02 pm Comment from: otter

Hang a sec.

Even given that Enderle is one of the most full of shite talking heads on the internet, didn't Apple just release quarterly sales figures showing an increase in iMac sales, along with notebooks? Or am I remembering wrong?

Hmmm, I guess this will make his 6th appearance on TMO's Apple Death Knell Counter.

Today's magic word is consider. Maybe Enderle should consider shutting his mouth. I guess he likes being wrong. Why not, he gets paid the same.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:03 pm Comment from: Macaday

Gates: Now look here Enderle. I'm not happy about all this positive press Apple are getting.
Enderle: Yes its bad. I know.
Gates: I want you to start doing something about it. That's what I pay you for isn't it?
Enderle: Yes Mr Gates.
Gates: Well get out there and write something that will get people talking about how dangerous the iMac is will you?
Enderle: Dangerous?
Gates: Yes. Make something up, anything for heavens sake.
Enderle: Yes Mr Gates. Right away Mr Gates. Going now.
Gates (shouting dow corridor): And I want people talking about it Enderle.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:05 pm Comment from: What a butt lickin' Microsoft bitch this guy is!!!

"it would have been better had Apple looped Microsoft into this decision and worked on better interoperability between the two products rather than what was likely a blind side release embarrassing the Apple supporters in Microsoft. Sometimes it isn’t what you do, but how you do it that defines a company."

What a drone, what a dweeb, what a sissy, what an asshole. This guy has his nose so far up Bill Gates butt he could sneeze out of Bill's mouth.

Liked your take MDN. Don't buy an iMac if you live in earthquake country!!! Falling glass from a plastic machine alert!!!! LOL

Jan 24, 05 - 04:06 pm Comment from: Suicidal Gingerbread Man

^
That's "You're a tool."

See me after class.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:08 pm Comment from: George

>> It seems to me that this guy does not know what he is talking about. <<
The nail on the head. He very rarely (if ever) does. It's pretty amusing actually. grin

Jan 24, 05 - 04:09 pm Comment from: Mike

I don't think of iWork as a Office alternative, but rather an inexpensive desktop publisher app. There is no Microsoft Publisher or alternative app with the quality we expect in a less than $100 price range. Please, don't say appleworks, carbon apps are crap on OSX.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:10 pm Comment from: Al

I wish nothing but the best for your wife and kids, living in earthquake alley, as it were.

But, if a large shard of glass should strike you during the next trembling of the earth's bowels, well, that is another matter entirely.

Speaking of trembling bowels, has anything you have produced been truthful or has it all been propaganda paid for by your many Wintel Industry clients.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:11 pm Comment from: Bobby

The Mac mini:

The most earthquake proof computer available, much safer that those big heavy black boxes from Dell. smile

Jan 24, 05 - 04:14 pm Comment from: davey

Rob Enderle + Bill Palmer
Separated at birth???

Jan 24, 05 - 04:16 pm Comment from: terry cortez

MDN’s take could quite possibly be the greatest take in the history of takes. AH, I sound like Jim Rome. Rack MDN!!!!!!!

Keep up the good work fellas. MDN is what gets me through the work day!!

Jan 24, 05 - 04:18 pm Comment from: John

Don'tcha love how M$ backers are always saying "product X will be out _any minute_ now, and it'll be way better than the currently shipping Apple product.

How Dare he compare vaporware from other vendors with the iPod Shuffle, which is out today (well, if you can get one, at least!)?

Jan 24, 05 - 04:21 pm Comment from: Jump

"and is far less stable."

Has this moron or his wife ever even touched the new iMac? If he had tried to push one over he'd know how stupid he sounds to everyone else right now.

"Enderle concludes, "Apple exists largely because Xerox didn’t want to take a risk with a graphical user interface and a mouse."

And Enderle exists as an analyst because Microsoft "borrowed" Apple's design. What is his point?

"The only risk is that it might upset Microsoft and the core group that has been incredibly supportive of Apple over the years."

The reason Microsoft is incredibly supportive of Apple is because if Apple didn't exist MS would have no leg to stand on when it came to monopoly charges. They would be stupid to not keep Apple in the game.

I wonder if Enderle ever wonders how much money he could make as an analyst if he actually knew what he was talking about!

Jan 24, 05 - 04:27 pm Comment from: Rob Enderle

Mark my words... Apple will not sell even ONE of those teeter-totter iMac thing-a-ma-jigs and definitely won't get this "Mac mini" junkbox off the ground.

Face it, zealots, the Mac death knell has sounded.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:31 pm Comment from: Shieldzee

MDN take is quite possibly the funniest thing that I have read in 2005. I have changed my iChat status to "We like pudding, mice, and foam." Could not possibly be more funny. MDN magic word is "like" as in "We LIKE pudding, mice and foam." OMG is that funny!

Jan 24, 05 - 04:33 pm Comment from: critic

I don't know whhy I'm even bothering to reply to something this moronic with logic, but here goes.

If he is so worried about earthquakes, why doesn't he:
a)build a styrofoam house
b) move to the east coast, or
c) buy an iMac and use a vesa mount to put it securely on the wall

I am now praying for a 9.0 earthquake to cause a black Dell monitor to fall on his head and save us all from further stupidity.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:34 pm Comment from: Is it Raining?

Enderle: Maple syrup is supposed to be on the table before the pancakes.
MDN editor: We haven't ordered yet, Rob.
Enderle: Of course when they bring the maple syrup after the pancakes, it'll definitely be too late.
MDN editor: How is that gonna be too late? We haven't ordered the pancakes yet.
Enderle: We're gonna be here the entire morning with no maple syrup and no - no toothpicks, I'm definitely, definitely not gonna have my pancakes w-with...
[MDN editor grabs him by the neck]
Enderle: OW!
MDN editor: Don't make a scene!
Enderle: OW!
MDN editor: Stop acting like a fscking retard.
Enderle: UH-OH!
[Pulls out red book and writes in it]
MDN editor: What are you writing?... What the fsck is this? "Serious Injury List"? *Serious* injury list? Are you fscking kidding me?
Enderle: Number eighteen in 2005, MDN editor squeezed and pulled and hurt my neck in 2005.
MDN editor: Squeezed and pulled and hurt your neck in 2005?

Jan 24, 05 - 04:36 pm Comment from: Chris

The funniest part of that article is the last few sentences....

"Rob Enderle is Principal Analyst for the Enderle Group a forward looking research and consulting firm specializing in emerging personal technologies, branding, and internet marketing."

Foward looking???? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jan 24, 05 - 04:38 pm Comment from: edgeknight

I think we should get a list of Mr. Enderle's qualifications. A lot of what he wrote was just poor analysis and some of it quite contrived. First off, I read his 3 pages of drivel. All of it is baseless. Come on, earthqakes!? The new iMac falling down? Uh, is he aware that Dell's flat panels are also supported by a pedestal? Isn't everything vertical subject to falling down during an earthquake (hence the contrived portion).
As for baseless, not a single one of his assertions was followed by numerical analysis. All of it was based on his personal belief, which is a poor way of validating what is going on with Apple.
I won't continue to poke holes in his article because I could go on forever. I hope that all of you realize that there has been a severe decline in journalistic integrity throughout the world (note: Enderle is not a journalist... just an analyst on a website). We seem to take all *NEWS* from the Internet as valid when in reality most of it is not from accredited journalistic sources. And in turn, the real journalists pick up on this manufactured news in order to sell print and meet deadlines. What a sad state we live in.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:40 pm Comment from: Snugfig

F.U.D.

Once again, why does MDN continue to waste bandwidth on this "technologist"? The fact that he is spending time writing about the Mac min is proof enough that fear and progress is setting in. I didn't know that I need to consider earthquakes when purchasing a computer. Should I now consider the effects of a tsunami on my future computer purchases? Did he ever tout the benefits of having a "sunflower" iMac in an earthquake prone area when it was introduced? I doubt that and once again doubt any validity that this person attempts to offer.

Keyword: ground, as in the surface that Enderle's jaw hit when he saw the Mac mini and the severity of the threat it posed.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:42 pm Comment from: Bob

"Apple exists largely because Xerox didn’t want to take a risk with a graphical user interface and a mouse."

- Enderle logic then dictates, that MicroSoft would not exist if it wasn't for Apple, right?

Magic Word "Process". Like, I can't process Enderle's slashdat scribblings anymore.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:42 pm Comment from: Aryugaetu

" But this year will be more difficult.  The competition is becoming much more fierce and Apple’s offerings aren’t as interesting."

Tiger, iWork and iLife on a $499 Mac mini by the end of June.
Now, tell me that Apple's offerings "aren't as interesting"!

Does ANYTHING by Dell or Microsoft come anywhere as close in terms of "interesting"? What "competition"?

Jan 24, 05 - 04:45 pm Comment from: Knock Knock

I just have to say something, but I just can't beat what's already been said. Very funny response MDN. This Enderle dude must be seriously constipated today.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:55 pm Comment from: Snugfig

"Apple exists largely because Xerox didn’t want to take a risk with a graphical user interface and a mouse."

Keyword, risk. Apple takes risk, innovates, leads, helps to define the future. Not follow.


And MS exists largely because it mimics every innovation made by every other company around. For all its wealth, the mind-share at MS is as dull as a the shine on a wet foam pillow.

Jan 24, 05 - 04:55 pm Comment from: chuckie c

You know the real difference between these so call pundits and a Steve Jobs as CEO is that these pundits write crap in a couple of hours and get pay hundreds of dollars while the CEO has to have vision, charisma, leadership to turn a company around. It may take years but the reward may be hundreds of millions of dollars. Whose job is easier? The one from stupid pundit "Endless” being critical without accountability, or Steve's?

Jan 24, 05 - 04:57 pm Comment from: Andy C.

LOL! Does Enderle remind you of anyone? Remember former Iraqi Information minister Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf? What's that guy up to these days anyway?

Maybe he can put in the good word for Enderle and get him a gig at Abu Dhabi TV...

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/
--
This post brought to you by the word "then": "Enderle, if Apple increases it's market share to over 5% this year, THEN will you shut the f*ck up and crawl into a hole and die?!?"

Jan 24, 05 - 05:01 pm Comment from: Love it!

"We like pudding, mice, and foam."

I want that on a T-Shirt!

Jan 24, 05 - 05:06 pm Comment from: librium

Rob,

.......... wow.
wow.

</wow>

Jan 24, 05 - 05:07 pm Comment from: _Arthur

"Apple’s PCs, which at one time were largely based on Apple intellectual property are now largely based on IP from IBM and the FreeBSD community"

What IBM IP is there in Mac OSX ? You mean NeXT was an IBM company ??

Enderle is a grossly overpaid shill.

Jan 24, 05 - 05:07 pm Comment from: iMaki

It just amazes me this idiot is criticizing the new iMac on the improbable notion an earthquake will knock it over. Try rocking the new iMac back and forth, side to side, and you will see this machine is far more stable than it looks. Man this Enderle guy is a piece of work.

Jan 24, 05 - 05:08 pm Comment from: Mac Daddy

"...Falling glass can be a huge hazard in a home late at night when you are trying to get the kids and family to safety during an earthquake," - Enderle.

Talk about a flimsy excuse...apparently Enderle lives in a house that is 100% earthquake-proof, has no pictures hanging on the wall, no glass windows, no Windows-based PCs, and no furniture inside at all. During a major earthquake, debris resulting from a falling iMac will be the least of his worries. Anything that isn't nailed, bolted, or screwed down will be sliding every which-way. That is assuming that the house doesn't collapse in the process.

Jan 24, 05 - 05:16 pm Comment from: mike

LMFAO!! brilliant

Jan 24, 05 - 05:19 pm Comment from: RePlay

Too funny for words!!:lol:

I'm sure that it has been posted before, but Mark Twain's quote is surely apt here… (paraphrased) "It is better to be thought a fool that to open ones mouth (or Wintel typewriter) and prove it."

Proof positive!! cheese

Jan 24, 05 - 05:30 pm Comment from: macster

Give the guy a break. No one could be that stupid to publish an article with so many un-truths and hysterical rantings unless he wanted the attention of all you fanatics. His plan worked.

You are all hyperventalating over his idiodic rants. You have all fallen for his trap. Now who looks like an idiot? He is like those idiodic right wing talk show hosts that say anything to get the goat of the liberal weenies. Then all of sudden they have ratings and phone calls and and entertaining show. Nothing like a hysterical liberal fanatic to make things entertianing.

He can't be serious. This is one of the most ignorant columns I've ever read. The man is obviously a lonely pathetic soul that thrives on any attention he can get, even if it is slanderous. He is picking a fight with you fanatics just to feel like he matters. If you really wanted to make the man miserable you would ignore his feeble and masochistic attempt for your abusive love.

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