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They forgot the operating system itself.

Jul 10, 09 - 10:31 am Comment from: MadMac

You forgot OS X.

Jul 10, 09 - 10:43 am Comment from: Mr. Reeee

Mac OS X and pretty much EVERY stock Apple App should hover above the list!

Jul 10, 09 - 10:44 am Comment from: FatMac

What about Leopard?

Jul 10, 09 - 10:45 am Comment from: mks1

Weak List!!!!

Jul 10, 09 - 10:48 am Comment from: McIntosh

They forgot to mention Papers. Phenomenal program and no equivalent for the PC as far I understand. Even if there was, it wouldn't have the awesome iTunes-y interface we all know and love.

Keynote

Jul 10, 09 - 10:55 am Comment from: TowerTone

They forgot Quicken for Mac!
Wish I could....

There's lots of quality Apps Windows users would love if they got themselves out of their time capsule.

And a lot if features of OS X too, that's why I would like Apple to counter Laptop Hunter with Laptop User maybe!

Just show stuff like Time Machine, Automator, GarageBand, iPhoto , Mail, Finder even!

Jul 10, 09 - 10:57 am Comment from: McIntosh

I should also mention a little program called Timeline 3D. You'll never look at a timeline in a slideshow presentation the same way again!

Uh, the headline is incorrect. Windows users just drool. Period.

What about Final Cut Family?

From my own experience I'd have to add Freeway Pro for website design. It's a great Mac-only app that lets me design websites without knowing a bit html coding.

Jul 10, 09 - 11:11 am Comment from: Tommy Boy

@Gosh: Windows users cannot make good use of a Time Capsule.

Jul 10, 09 - 11:12 am Comment from: Ottawa Mark

I've actually been really disappointed with Delicious Library. They haven't really moved it forward in several years.

Jul 10, 09 - 11:23 am Comment from: Predrag

Just to refocus here; the point of this list was to highlight applications that best showcase the differences between what can be done on Mac and what cannot be done on Windows. This is mainly about the elegance, consistency and simplicity of UI, as well as the level of integration with Address Book, iCal data, Mail, MobileMe, etc, which is impossible to emulate on Windows. These aren't ten most useful apps on Mac. Such a list would be impossible to make; what is useful for you may well be useless for me.

In other words, showcasing these apps to a Windows user should automatically make them drool and blurt out "Way cool!!!".

TextMate FTW! Greatest editor evar!

MDN Magic Word: knew, as in "If only those poor benighted Windohs people knew what they were missing".

GarageBand of course

Aperture?!
Sorry, but even as a Mac fan I would be reluctant to include that one in the list of 'droolworthy' apps.

Aperture has some strong features but Lightroom cleans it's clock to the degree that even amongst Mac users it barely grabs a double digit market share.

I have high hopes though, maybe v.3 will turn the tide.
Then again, Lightroom will be on v.3 as well...

GarageBand is the one that I've noticed most of those poor fools pine for.

@Nobama

You beat me to the punch - Aperture is a very distant 2nd to Lightroom.

Does Cool Iris count? I do rather like it.

Jul 10, 09 - 12:11 pm Comment from: Predrag

You may be very right about the GarageBand. When you think about it, there is nothing on Windows side that makes audio recording easy and fun, without costing you $300 or more. And even with the stuff that's there, vast majority are professional tools that work well, have tons of features, but aren't exactly fun to use.

GarageBand, especially in its latest iteration, with music lessons and the improved Magic GarageBand Jam, is by far the most fun music application there is. Nothing really comes close; it is thoroughly entertaining for amateur, as well as pro musicians. What's even more remarkable about it is, it is perfectly capable of doing quite high-quality pro gigs. I have scored an independent movie sound track (with Symphony Orchestra JamPack), as well as several jingles for news podcasts, and I have Logic Express as well. GarageBand is just so much more fun and easy to use, and it has enough features to allow me to edit and polish my work enough. And the podcasting features are even more fun and simple to use. For creative and media people, it is practically impossible to justify a Windows purchase when you get tools such as Garageband (or iMovie, for that matter) for free.

And on the subject at hand, no doubt, GarageBand agan showcases the power of XCode, as well as the complete integration that the platform enables (ability to browse through iPhoto pictures, iTunes music, etc., directly from all iLife apps).

does anyone here know of some Windows only apps that we would drool over?

Jul 10, 09 - 12:34 pm Comment from: Adam T. Lindley

@macboer

thats easy enough, just start listing games. Games is the one software category we still lack :(

Jul 10, 09 - 12:35 pm Comment from: rahrens

I just bought DL2, and am most decidedly NOT disappointed with it.

It has a super integration with the camera on my MacBook, and scans UPC codes as well as any pro scanner costing hundreds of dollars.

It catalogs my books, CDs, and other stuff very handily, and is as easy to use as one would wish.

Family members and friends that use PCs really DO look at it and how it works and say "Wow!"

I just wish Amazon would drop their stupid issue with mobile apps using their data, which will kill the iPhone app, which is awesome.

Jul 10, 09 - 12:48 pm Comment from: Mr.Fergus

I'll be 69 in a few months and I drool all the time, is that a problem?

Don't forget about the iLife '09 suite! Sheer awesomeness.

@macboer

that's like saying - what apps make you use a Virtual Machine of Windows on your Mac.

MS Money for me (which they've just ditched)! Nothing else really!

Jul 10, 09 - 01:25 pm Comment from: _Bill_

Pixelmator is great too. The real drool-worthy thing about these apps are the prices! You get a lot of quality for your money.

I'm a big fan of Lightroom myself. I tried out the trial version of Aperture, but found Lightroom more to my liking.

I agree with this being a poor list. What about all the iLife Apps?

"I've actually been really disappointed with Delicious Library. They haven't really moved it forward in several years."

That;s what happens I suppose when you make it so good on the first shot. It would be nice to have new features, but the reality is, it's pretty damn good the way it is.

Spaces combined with Expose' -

Everytime a Windows user looks over my shoulder and see it- they gasp. Then I hit the dashboard trigger and they cum.

If I haven't heard of half of those apps... and I am a Mac user... what does that make me?

LaunchBar is the most useful app on any platform from a productivity standpoint. (IMHO)

iLife for gods sake!

DevonThink and DevonAgent...

Jul 10, 09 - 02:13 pm Comment from: Cubert

@SAB,
Ditto!

Jul 10, 09 - 02:23 pm Comment from: Cubert

@ Safari4IsGarbage,

"GarageBand is the one that I've noticed most of those poor fools pine for."

Nice pun about GarageBand's woodgrain background - even if unintentional.

>macboer wrote: does anyone here know of some Windows only apps that we would drool over?

Would love it if we had some apps from the Windows world... like ACDSee. I dislike iPhoto immensely.

I also prefer the Windows "finder" (aka Explorer) over OS X's Finder. If PowerDesk were Mac-ified, I'd choose that over Finder as well.

>macboer wrote: "...does anyone here know of some Windows only apps that we would drool over?"


Smartdraw and MS Access- (sorry guys... FileMaker is a money pit and Bento is a toy.)

It's ok tho- that's what Fusion, Parallels and VirtualBox are for.

Jul 10, 09 - 02:50 pm Comment from: rattiemouse

Aperture??? LOL.....Aperture gets blown away by Photoshop Lightroom all day long. For every Aperture user, there are 9 Lightroom users.

Delicious Library, LOL! A piece of over rated junk. Great looking app with a foundation of sorry code. Ever heard of DVDpedia?

i can't believe no one has mentioned sapiens. by far the coolest, smartest, sexiest, quickest application launcher. i've used it for 24 hours and already can't live with it. http://www.donelleschi.com/sapiens/

oh and also don't forget to check out timenet for time and billing, interface beats out the rest by far. http://www.applesource.biz/

whatever, I know the list of windows apps that Apple users would love to have would be somewhat longer. But yes, I'll throw in a vote for Quicksilver - because that must be the best discontinued utility ever made. And most people still believe its main feature was an app launcher, sigh. Would love to see Apple pick up from where it got orphaned.

Jul 10, 09 - 04:04 pm Comment from: Predrag

Looks like we need to re-focus again.

The list is NOT a top-ten best apps for the Mac. It showcases superiority of Mac as a platform, through UI features, visual appeal, consistency, efficiency, deep integration with system features and user data (think mail, iCal, address book, iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie, iWeb, etc).

DVDpedia is a great piece of Mac software, but Delicious Library is infinitely more fun and Wow-inducing. It is precisely flash over substance and that is what the article was about.

I would add BBEdit (not so beautiful, but very powerful), CSSEdit, all the Omni-apps, all the Panic apps, Pixelmator, Fresh, LaunchBar, and a whole bunch more.

MW: "wife," as in, my wife could come up with a better list — and I don't even have a wife.

I drool over MSPaint.

No, seriously, I do. OS X has this terrible lack of a nice, simple, lightweight drawing app that works well for pixel art. Seashore doesn't cut it, Pixen's a bugfest, Paint just sucks. GraphicConverter comes the closest, but lightweight it isn't.

Dd I have to emulate Windows just for MSPaint? I don't wanna be that pathetic, damnit!

you forgot about PhotoBooth!

Well someone asked the question " Is there a Windows program to drool over?" or some variation. Well I'd LOVE a program like DVD Fab 6. I've yet to find a MAC program that can copy practically every DVD thrown at it and also remove PGCs. If anyone knows of one PLEASE let me know.

@MPC Guy

windows explorer is beter in Vista but i use XP at work and it sucks compared to finder. i love the shortcutbar-thingy use it all the time and i hate "folders" view in explorer. but this is just me and XP is very old.

@rattiemouse et. al.

"Aperture gets blown away by Photoshop Lightroom all day long. For every Aperture user, there are 9 Lightroom users."

Uh, well, that's just about the ratio of Mac users to Windows users. Lightroom owns the market only because it's available for Windows. It has a great feature set, with some powerful tools that Aperture lacks. But, it's aimed more at the semi-pro, the hobbyist, and the tinkerer who want to diddle one photo at a time than at the pro photog who cranks out thousands of photos in a day. For speed and ease of editing and organizing, Aperture is still king. If I want to diddle my images, I've got Photoshop. And, I find the UI of Lightroom atrocious, with its really-just-a-zoom-and-not-really-a-loupe-at-all tool, modal operation, and mouse-intensive operation. Yuck.