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Ugh - a side-mounted scroll wheel like those on the Sh**Berries? I HATED that thing as it made me want to throw my old 7100g against the wall and then stomp on the surviving POS. Motorola and Nokia are so far behind the curve. Sorry guys, the game's changed and you got toasted.

A friend just got her 8GB iPhone last night so I'm going to help her set it up later. She's been using the above-trashed 7100g for the last year so it's time to put it out of its misery. I'd love to smash it to pieces but she wants to give it to a domestic violence shelter.

I saw a really long and flashy ad for the razr2 the other day and it just went on an on about how flashy it was and how it had two screens and how it had a touchscreen etc. None of it seemed to show it in use, mentioned the interface, mentioned ease of use, mentioned anything that would actually make it good or bad in everyday use. That's why they fail. That's why customers have no loyalty and they're constantly having to work for every single customer every single time they get a new phone. Apple have iPhone customers, I bet that almost across the board those customers will automatically consider a new iPhone in the future.

So.... when does Apple release a "touch" keyboard for your computer - eliminating the old typewriter "punch" keys?

The newest keyboard is getting closer.

I used a Motorola "Q" for a year before I got an iPhone. It's a decent package. However, the hardware is crap and the software is worse than crap. They would sell a LOT more if it didn't freeze and need to be restarted by removing the battery at least once per day. I never used the side wheel. The last straw was when it froze and wouldn't allow me to answer a call.

The iPhone has been sluggish a few times, not perfect, but much better.

RAZR? are you kidding?

@ Angelus520

Giving the CrapBerry to a domestic violence shelter is a good thing. All it has to do is be able to call 911.

Although the iPhone is pretty cool, I need a large screen.

Surfing on the iPhone is a chore, it simply doesn't catch the wave right and I wind up swimming.

My big kanuna fingers manages to hit three or four iPhone keys at the same time.

Although the shiny screen makes a nice mirror so iCan dress up for the wahines.

Now my Razr, that's a perfect device. I use it to scrape off my new beard and can make phone calls to my wahines.

Beats the clam shells by a long shot.

Mahalo

"The Associated Press: Motorola’s Razr2 and Q can’t compete with Apple’s iPhone."

Duh!

Slapped the smart-phone category silly

Luv it.


MDN magic word - river - as in ...
Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it, Motorola.

Some friends of mine have been unable to sync their Macs with their new RAZR2. What's up with that?

"The Associated Press: Motorola’s Razr2 and Q can’t compete with Apple’s iPhone."


Careful here. The above "quote" is not actually in the article. It is really an MDN take.

MDN don't be too hard on them. They just didn't know. The iPhone is NEW. It blows away every aspect of the mobile industry. Visual Voice Mail, Scrolling Interface, Internet (Real Internet), etc. They (Motorolas and others) started with the first push-button phones and were just making incremental improvements to them as mobile devices.

You do hit hard.

RAZR: I... I can't believe the iPhone is so much better than me!

Yoda: THAT is why you fail.

Isn't it unfair to compare the Razr to the Crappy iphone, yes until there's a CDMA version its crap, I mean carriers here give them away with a contract, you have to pay $300 for an iphone.

This is a very important tipping point - pay close attention to this...

"The Q9m lacks a touch screen and instead relies on a side-mounted BlackBerry-style scrollwheel"

In several reviews I read of the iPhone, the reviewer used the phrase "Instead of physical buttons, the iPhone relies on its large touch screen and virtual keypad." That sentence (or a very close aproxiamation) must have been in 6 or 7 articles a while back, so I figured (and I still suspect) that it was a Microsoft or Motorola talking point handed out at some instance, and got picked up by these writers. Point out what the phone 'lacks' and go on to speculate on the effectiveness of what it 'relies on'. It was subtle then, but now that it's turned around it's glaringly obvious.

schmluss says "It's a decent package. However, the hardware is crap and the software is worse than crap"

decent package? What does "decent" mean these days. I'm not "hip" to street talk.

Very very correct ChrissyOne!

Other talked about so called lacking features include:-
Client based email for "Big Business" as in Crackberry
Push email as in Slackberry
Text editing as in Suckberry
& of course that famous remark by the twat who calls himself RIM's CEO that he has not heard of, seen or know of an iphone and is therefor not concerned that it will have an effect on his World S Class PDA.....S stands for Shit class which covers products such as the Zune.

Who's worrying now?

Let me give you a breakdown of how this market works and responds, and how it is the iPod all over again - to some degree:

1. Apple launches a product that sets the bar - the direction of the market. In this case, the iPhone.

2. Carriers freak out - as do their beholden slaves, the cell phone makers. The result is the carrier demanding (insert cell maker name here) make a competitive iPhone product to launch by the fall or else! Or else their line of phones may not get top billing, or be replaced with some other brand!

3. The cell phone maker rushes out and quickly turns out a turd to the market.

4. Everyone of these cheaply designed, rushed to market "smart" phones is compared to the iPhone - and each one is shot down. Article after article, they all fall short in one area or another, or completely across the board.

5. Notice what happens here? iPhone is in EVERY article when reviewing a "smart" phone. iPhone, iPhone, iPhone. The media, rightly so, makes it the new benchmark, and everything else simply becomes junky noise that has no traction in the market place, because everyone wants the iPhone, because it is simply the best.

Will we see the Q9m mentioned ever again? No. Will the Q9m be the new "smart" phone that everything else is compared too? No. It is the iPhone.

Lastly, will Verizon ever showcase the Prada phone for the US at a reasonable price? Yes, later this fall most likely. Will it be a good phone? Not really, but it'll be better than the other pretenders out there, but the web browser will be weak, no visual voice mail, and doesn't work with iTunes and the list goes on. It'll be a nice and distant second place behind the iPhone. Verizion will sell it very effectively to it's install base, faking that it is as good as an iPhone very well, but switchers? Uh no.

@Steven - right on -

So the carriers can only offer basic commodity phones with commodity service packages (make phone calls, not much else) which are currently missing from the line up and hope that their subscribers will just buy and iPod Touch instead of moving to the iPhone and AT&T;.

While I'm not a likely candidate for an iPhone - already had AT&T;once - I'd love to be a iPod Touch owner except for a couple of missing apps. The device needs to be able to accomplish secure log-on to WiFi networks, a really strong calculator, a scientific reference database (commonly used formulas, periodic table, etc), a note taking capability and a light weight GTD app (I'm thinking Notes by Richard Schreyer for the first and Ghost Action from GhostPark Software for the second).

Looking at the specs for the iPod Classic and the iPod Touch, the obvious move is to take the interface, screen etc from the Touch and integrate it with the hard drive from the Classic, open the device to third party developers and sit back to watch the world come to Apple's door. You'd have a fully functioning handheld computer in about 8 oz that no PDA or Tablet computer could touch.

Oh the thinks you can think.