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I own the latest MBP. Mostly pleased with everything about it.

All that I feel that's missing is a Blu-Ray disk.

OX X needs to support variable resolution so that can read the display without using a magnifying glass.

Nov 29, 07 - 01:59 pm Comment from: Charles

@Gary

You can always visit 'system preferences' --> 'displays' to modify your resolution.

I prefer to use the built in zoom function (Cmd+Option+= and Cmd+Option+-) toggled on and off with Cmd+Option+8

Nov 29, 07 - 02:03 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

I don't know how they get they weigh things, but 3 kilos is about 6.6 lbs. NO Mac laptop has weighed that much in 10 years. A MacBook weighs about 5lbs, That 2.26 kilos.

Nov 29, 07 - 02:04 pm Comment from: Mr. Reeee

Proofread!

@Mr. Reeee

read the freakin' headline here at MDN (don't even need to read the actual article). Talking about the 17" MBP. Not the MacBook or the MacBook Pro 15. The 17" weighs exactly 6.8lbs (3.08kg). So keep the snarky, know it all comments to yourself until you get your basic facts straight - sheesh.

own a 17" MBP here, and I'm glad it ONLY weights 6.8 lb.

M$$$$$$$$$$$$ must just love to hear these comments... large companies die so slowly but with convention!

Nov 29, 07 - 02:41 pm Comment from: Jubei

The MBP are the best. No need for stupid paint jobs and silly body stickers to try and look cool like the other guys. Your know DULL and all. Heck my 512k fat mac is better looking that whatever they come out with. hehe

I have a new 15" MBP and love it. My only complaint is that Apple does not make a docking station for its laptops.

Does anyone know of a good docking station for a MBP?

The line in/out is also 5.1 optical audio as well as regular 2.0 stereo

If you have a decent 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound system and volume logic installed, you'll hear some great sound from your DRM free higher quality bit rate iTunes music. With surround sound and proper placement of the speakers, the whole room fills up with music, which sounds a hell of a lot better than a pair of computer speakers or even a iPod.

Docking stations are so 1993.

Does anyone know of a good docking station for a MBP?

Yea it's called a "Mac Pro"

The MBP sucks at powering a larger monitor, I've tried, it's slow. Also the connectors being plugged and unpluged cause premature wear to the MBP.

Your just like a zillion other Mac users I deal with. Your laptop turns into a desktop eventually. Should have bought a Mac Pro to begin with and a cheap disposable MacBook or even a iPod Touch/iPhone if portability is necessary.

Now your blew your wad on a $2500 MBP which should have gone towards a Mac Pro which you could have upgraded over the years instead of closed box which you can't upgrade and just have to replace it if you lose, drop, sit on it, got it stolen, etc.

I got a over 4 year old Mac Tower, it still is faster than my new MBP. Why? Because laptops are processor and graphic card hobbled when they get too hot. Plus the hard drives are slow, even the 7200 RPM ones. Also my Mac Pro connections don't get worn out because I use third party extensions and only when they fail does the connections get use. Try to do that with a laptop. Ha!

A Mac can last 10 years or more with proper care, substancially lowering the cost of ownership. A laptop is a computer makers wet dream come true.

Laptop = portability = premature turnover rate.

Pete - any computer can last 10 years or more. Laptop, desktop, whatever...

It's all about the user. Not the machine.

Hi Pete,

Thanks your input - but I already have a Mac Pro, an iMAC, and several DELL XP turds.

I also own a Porsche 911 Targa 4S that I keep at my vacation home on a lake. So money is not a problem, like it is for the poor working class that keep computers for 10 years. Sheesh!!! How long do you people keep cars and underwear?

I haven't changed my underwear in 10 years.

Nov 29, 07 - 04:25 pm Comment from: Steve516

I have some really old underwear...

Nov 29, 07 - 04:26 pm Comment from: MacFhearghaile

@ iDont:
I keep my cars until they wear out, underwear isn't a problem I don't wear any. And I've still got the first Mac I purchased and it still works, and I don't care about your Porsche, your vacation home or anything else you own, "poor working class" what a pompous ass.

iDon't,

I thought such pompous snobishness as yours died out shortly after WW2.

Nov 29, 07 - 05:15 pm Comment from: WBFS

It's so much fun to lie to people you don't know and who don't care 1 S**T about you! I don't believe one word from IDon't, do you??

Nov 29, 07 - 05:32 pm Comment from: Logan

LIFETIMES:
Computers = Till they no longer get the job done reasonably and cannot be upgraded to do so
Cars = Till they die completely
Underwear = Till they have too many holes to warrant wearing them, or their strange color keeps rubbing off on the insides of your pants

Sounds like Pete is a little obsessive about the longevity of his computer, but that's better than being wasteful when there are starving children in the world.

Nov 29, 07 - 06:08 pm Comment from: LorD1776

Don't worry about the "starving children in the world". They will all get cheap laptops and die happily ever after.

Nov 29, 07 - 09:07 pm Comment from: Buster

@WBFD
iDon't

Peasents and uncultured swine can kiss my hard drive.

MDW MW = income. Seriously, it is magic.

I love poor people. They keep me rich.

Pete:

"The MBP sucks at powering a larger monitor, I've tried, it's slow."

"I got a over 4 year old Mac Tower, it still is faster than my new MBP. Why? Because laptops are processor and graphic card hobbled when they get too hot. Plus the hard drives are slow, even the 7200 RPM ones."

I don't buy it. I just sold my Dual 2GHz G5 (X800XT, 4GB RAM, 500GB HD) and bought a 2.4 GHz MBP to drive my 30" ACD. For Aperture, the MBP is noticeably faster, and it doesn't overheat, even after hours of intensive use.

Your pretty quick to ridicule others' buying decisions without knowing anything about how people are using their Macs. I considered a Mac Pro + Macbook and ruled it out because the Macbook simply is not a viable platform for Aperture. OTOH, I found the new MBP nearly as fast with Aperture as a stock Mac Pro, even driving a large display.

Nov 30, 07 - 12:16 am Comment from: MacSheikh

I got you all poor people beat!

I got a Mac Pro, MBP, MacBook, iPod, iPhone (hacked), a Porsche 911 Turbo "BS" at my holiday home ON the lake, a Lamborghini "BS" at my other holiday home BY the lake, AND an Aston Martin "BS" at my other holiday home UNDER the lake!

And my underwear has lasted 15 yrs so far!

Take that!

Nov 30, 07 - 12:17 am Comment from: MacSheikh

Oh yeah...did i mention that all my underwear are lined with gold and diamonds?

Take that...again!

Pete: The MBP sucks at powering a larger monitor, I've tried, it's slow.

Nonsense. It can't compete with high-end 3D accelerators in desktops, but it's anything but "slow" on large external monitors.

Pete: Also the connectors being plugged and unpluged cause premature wear to the MBP.

Nonsense. I've never ever had a connector fail on me yet, with numerous desktop and laptop machines so far (the latter always with external monitors in a dual-screen setup). But of course I handle them properly.

Pete: I got a over 4 year old Mac Tower, it still is faster than my new MBP. Why? Because laptops are processor and graphic card hobbled when they get too hot.

Utter nonsense. I've got a Rev-A PowerMac G5 Dual 2GHz and a 17" MacBook Pro 2.33GHz, and the MacBook easily kicks the PowerMac's butt whenever it wants. On several tasks it's four to six times as fast.

The only thing where the PowerMac can still be faster is on highly harddisk-limited tasks. Hardly a surprise with the necessary technology differences between desktop and laptop harddisk, and if necessary overcome with an external FW800 HD.

What a load of rubbish!

Nov 30, 07 - 07:46 am Comment from: Bobo

Ummm.... "Should have bought a Mac Pro to begin with and a cheap disposable MacBook" <snip>

There isn't a cheap Mac. My stupid HP didn't cost half the price of a cheap disposable MacBook and I didn't have to buy a MacBook Pro for another 2 grand.

I've had a few Macs - way back to the little SE and recently a MacBook. I do love the Macs but I just ain't as rich as you or your daddy.
Bobo

Exploiting the poor is why I can own 6 computers, 5 cars, and 2 homes.

Long live status quo! (and hedge funds!)