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I love Apple and have done so for over 20 years.

I love my matte Macbook Pro and all others that came before that.

I dislike the iPhone because it's too clumsy and small screen size. The slow connections speeds and lack of Javascript etc.

I totally dislike glossy screens, because they hurt your eyes after looking at them for long periods like at a job.

I thank Apple for not mandating glossy screens on the new MacBooks.

I loath Apple for contributing to the detriment of people's eyesight with glossy screens.

I am very confused.

Oh yes,

I am waiting for the iPhone Rev 2 with:

1: Open carrier
2: 3G
3: GPS
4: User replaceable battery
5: Some sort of goggles for a bigger screen experience.
6: Much much larger storage capacity.

I'm not repeating with the iPhone what I did with the iPod, buying just about every new version that comes out.

This time I will wait, because my investment in a MacBook Pro is much better than a hobbled iPhone capabilites.

The iPod is great for playing music and storing stuff mainly. So the larger the capacity the better in my book.

The iPhone pales in comparison to a laptop in functionality. I have no problem carrying a laptop because I drive.

Now if I lived in the city, rode the subway. A iPhone would be preferred, but because of my work, would require a laptop anyway.

So I will buy a iPhone, when it's fixed.

I like products that a company named "Apple" makes.
I dislike some products they make.
The ones I like, I buy.
The ones I don't, I don't.

Life is simpler that way.

Feb 28, 08 - 09:52 am Comment from: shen

you dislike the small screen size, Maniac? buy a bigasstable from microsoft.

you dislike the slow connection, but many tests have shown it to be far faster and more useable than any other choice on the market.

and you want java? you complain it is slow, but you want it to be slower?

you are right, you are confused.....

Macmaniac -- I just love glossy screens,and I work for looong periods onscreen.

We're all different I guess, and luckily there are effective matte screen coverings available for those who dislike glossies.

Whaaa whaa whaa! I'm not buying anything by Apple until they specifically make it exactly the way I want it! The world revolves around me!!!

Oh by the way, AT&T;does have a 3G network in effect. My friend has a phone on it.

But it's glitchy right now and not everywhere.

So this is what Apple is waiting for. So waiting for iPhone Rev 2 is a GOOD THING.

Because one keeps a phone for years.

Good day.

Feb 28, 08 - 09:53 am Comment from: Mr. Reeee

I can't wait for iPhone v2! By then the SDK will have been out for a while and we'll see third party apps for the thing.

I'd love to see a simple GTD app, like Things, for the iPhone. Then i could kiss my Palm TX buh bye.

MacManiac.... The MacBook Pro offers a choice. If you go with a macBook or MacBook Air, you're stuck with glossy. UGH. I guess it's because pros use matte screens. The Air should still offer a choice.

"So I will buy a iPhone, when it's fixed."

Or maybe you'll NEVER buy an iPhone. And you know what? That's just fine! It's OK not to buy Apple products...

Feb 28, 08 - 09:55 am Comment from: DLMeyer

Mac Maniac, you juxtaposed "too clumsy" with "small screen size". Are you suggesting Apple found the perfect fit where you are satisfied with neither? That it must be clumsier to provide a better screen or have an even smaller screen to be less clumsy?

Now I'm confused.
Dave

"EDGE iPhone platform is being ramped down earlier than expected to 'clean' inventories"

no way apple will do that. people in irland and all the other new countries that will hopefully be announced next week would zeter mordio over that. imagine you buy a brand new phone and 4 month later it is obsolet. apple is already a burned child on that (early price cut, anyone?)

apple will introdice a new 3g model and lower the price for the existing model. that's it. (an iphone nano with a lower contract requirement aimed at teens would be nice though)

Mac Maniac, you've missed out on Apple's best product release EVER. The iPhone is Apple's greatest accomplishment, and it fits in your pocket. It's a shame you've been a fan for so long, and then you "don't get it" when Steve releases this masterpiece.

Can you tell how much I love mine?

@DJ

Anti-glare screens collect dirt, melt and peel. Mess up a otherwise great looking piece of hardware.

Nice impression it makes to Windows losers to boot...not.

@Tom Strong

Apple is very attentive to our computing needs and wants or they would be out of business.

And yes I like being pampered, God knows we pay for it.

I like the iPhone, but I can't justify buying it because it does not have a 13 inch screen, 200 gb HD and at least 2 gbs of ram. I also can't create and edit word documents, nor can I run my protein folding screen saver.

I guess I'll have to wait until Apple releases a portable computer that I can carry easily, has a decent processor and memory, and is multitouch.

Oh wait... they already have that.

Feb 28, 08 - 10:06 am Comment from: Randian

@Mac Maniac

Whine, whine, whine, bitch, bitch, bitch, sob, sob, sob, sniffle, sniffle, sniffle, etc., etc., etc. Voltaire once said, "The best stomachs are not those which reject all food." Clearly, you and your lofty standards are much too high for this imperfect world and its flawed art. Perhaps you should just wait for heaven, nirvana, the Elysian Fields, or the like to be truly satisfied with life.

Good luck to you, but remember: The greatest enemy of The Good is The Perfect. Something tells me you're never going to experience either.

@ DLMeyer

The iPhone interface is clumsy in my opinion.

Hopefully Apple will get back to it's roots of making the UI simple and uniform.

Even OS X is showing signs of flipping out.

Too much change is no good, people like stability. Some people are slow learners and if the UI keeps changing they get discouraged and miss new features.

@ Jesus

can I run my protein folding screen saver.

Laptops are not advised to run Folding@home because it's very demanding:

1: eats battery
2: auto heat processor performance hobbling reduces performance.

And the MacBook Air is glossy. Totally worthless for professional work, unless your a ignorant newbie.

Try showing up to a design job with one of those glossy screens...

@ Randian

No, I'll just wait until iPhone Rev 2 comes out and make a decision then.

Which can be put off if Apple doesn't make it the ultimate phone EVER!

I'm waiting the arrival of a 3G iPhone here in the UK before buying one, as O2's current (Edge) network downloads the sort of web pages I view too slowly.

No, not porn, but most of the websites do have a lot of pics and graphics, so speed is what I want.

Hopefully when it's upto 3G speeds (which I'm sure the network is already – just needs the iPhone to handle it) then I'll buy one on the first day.

Mac Maniac, just close your eyes and rest for a while and when you open them, relaxed, you will realize that of all the appliance manufacturers out there, Apple is the hero. Then go out an support the valiant efforts of your hero.

Feb 28, 08 - 10:32 am Comment from: REALTORben

I haven't read all the posts, but I did see a lot of posts about screen size, and glossy screen etc...

It's a portable phone. It's not a laptop computer. If you want a bigger screen, get a laptop computer. If you want a mobile phone, then by a mobile phone. As far as mobile phones go, the iPhone has the biggest screen with the best resolution making it the easiest to see. And ALL cellphones have a glossy screen, so it doesn't matter if you like it or not, it's all you have to choose from.

If you don't like it, don't use a cell phone. I like whomever said "I buy the products I like, I don't buy the products I dislike, life is easier that way". Good rule of thumb

I love glossy. Glossy: The Way of the Future™.

--Mac Maniac
Oh yes,

I am waiting for the iPhone Rev 2 with:

1: Open carrier - not for at least 4 years
2: 3G - yes
3: GPS - maybe
4: User replaceable battery - never
5: Some sort of goggles for a bigger screen experience. - moronic
6: Much much larger storage capacity - yes

Why doesn't AAPL put a phone in the MacBook? I already use it for Skype calls @$35 a year to CAN&US;via Internet, and as a touch typist I prefer a full size keyboard to something I have to look at to enter data. I for one would buy one, no worries.

If they put a phone in the MacBook this would be a masterstroke. But they won't: Dell will. They are innovative and commercially minded.

Matte vs. Glossy...

I prefer a Matte finish personally.

I believe a Glossy screen should only be an option not the first and only choice.

When you look at the average consumer you will see that they like to buy shiny, glossy things.

Looks like some of you need:

MacBookPhone.

C'mon, bigger screen, bigger everything, iPhone should be small so it can fit in the pocket. What would you do with let's say 8' screen?

Feb 28, 08 - 11:48 am Comment from: blucaso

Hey, let's have a BIG round of applause for Ralph in Berlin for actually contributing to the discussion instead of repeating his old posts again. Thanks Ralph! Welcome to the forums.

MacManiac, you are comparing the iPhone to a laptop. WTF? It's not a laptop. It's a phone. Stop it. And you won't buy it til there are goggles that make it into a full-screen experience? Guess you're in for a loooooong wait, man.

I seriously wonder if Apple is "cleaning out" inventories of EDGE phones too - because AT&T;'s network probably isn't ready to go all 3G by June, much less in every other country that Apple goes to.

And if this is the best deal Apple could wrangle out of O2 in Ireland, after all these months of negotiations, I pity the poor Canadians. If Rogers will not accede to enough of Apple's terms to get a deal done, and Apple allowed the deal in Ireland, I can only imagine how badly Rogers must want to screw their customers. Sad.

Feb 28, 08 - 11:57 am Comment from: Renderdog

I live in an area where the only internet is a 26K phone line. Safari is very quick on that line, sometimes quicker than a PC with broadband for simple pages (very little lag).

I realize computers can never be too fast but I am very comfortable with the slow connection. FWIW, the current iPhone's speed seems very fast to me :o).

The man stated his point of view and why he would prefer to use a laptop over an iphone and the people who think Apple do everything perfect jumps down his throat.

Your entitled to your point of view Mac Maniac. I have no plans on buying an iphone myself if it doesn't work on CDMA, thats my point of view.

And yes, I love my imac, not so fussy on the new one I bought for my daughter with the glossy screen though.

I don't want a phone in a laptop-I have no use for it and do not want to pay for it. Also, skype is available, so why would I need it?
Especially with Wi-max coming.

Glossy, matte-who cares. Either buy it or don't. A lot of you Apple people are a bunch of bitchy little girls.

Take a deep breath and realize Apple is a company making devices-it's not a life choice, philosophy of life or a religion. It's a machine running software.

I wonder why anyone cares to read and write to an article about something they are not interested in. I really am enlightened to read that some folks do not intend to buy and iPhone. Duh. By the way I am not going to buy a Corvette until they put in a back seat. I am sure all want to know that.

I would like to thank all the iWhiners that bought the low memory ibetaPhone last year. You were very generous in willingly funding the research for the full featured iPhone I will be buying this summer. Now don't forget to plunk down your hard earned cash for the under powered MBA. I will be needing a full featured light weight notebook in about 2 years.

Just my $0.02

"And the MacBook Air is glossy. Totally worthless for professional work, unless your a ignorant newbie." - Mac Maniac


Wow, I'm having a tough time scoring this one, Maniac:

A. You wrote two incomplete sentences—in a row.

B. "Professional work" would include lawyers, accountants, writers, et. al. In fact, the MBA is purpose-built for working professionals, many of whom don't have an strong opinion one way or the other about how glossy their screen is.

C. If you're a graphic designer and the MBA's glossy screen is the primary deal-breaker, you're probably an ignorant newbie.

D. Improper use of "your" for "you're" (Note: I am so f-ing sick of seeing this)

E. And for the big finish, using the word "ignorant" to conclude an argument teemed with, if not completely comprised of, ignorance. The irony is both sad and quite funny (depending on how you score it)

The iPhone does do JavaScript.

Feb 28, 08 - 05:05 pm Comment from: Ampar

Ray:

You're welcome. On the other hand, I've been enjoying the hell out of my iPhone since last July.

"I would like to thank all the iWhiners that bought the low memory ibetaPhone last year. You were very generous in willingly funding the research for the full featured iPhone I will be buying this summer." - Ray

I call BS. Neither 3G or even triple the memory suddenly make the iPhone into a whole new product. My iPhone friggen rocks. Don't be mad just because mommy and daddy didn't to get you one for the holidays.


"Now don't forget to plunk down your hard earned cash for the under powered MBA. I will be needing a full featured light weight notebook in about 2 years." - Ray

My MacBook Pro has plenty of power, is full-featured, and it's lightweight.


"Just my $0.02" - Ray

The bank just called. You need to keep your account above $5 or they'll close it out.

Feb 29, 08 - 12:36 pm Comment from: iestynw

The only thing I'm waiting for with the iPhone is a price drop. In a couple of years, it might even be free on contract, you never know...

At the moment, I simply cannot afford to spend £269 on a phone, when I can go and renew my current contract, and get a brand new phone for free (admittedly not as good as an iPhone).

The fact is, the iPhone really isn't going to change very much throughout it's life time. It will get thinner, get more space, get bigger bandwidth, and get faster. But the design will stay the same. Flat screen, 1 button, volume controller, silent switch (which is one of the most understated parts of the design, and possible one of the best).

Long live the iPhone!