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What a miserable parasite trying to suck the life blood out of Job's creation. I hope Steve makes an example with him and at this point, Steve is powerful enough to do it.

Is this guy stupid or what?

Does Universal get some money from every Sony stereo sold, that plays Universal CD's?

Way to negotiate MS! F'n idiots....

Stupidity often accompanies greed.

My oh my...and first post too...not that it means...anything.....much.

When the record labels get a cut of every record player, CD player, cassette deck, etc sold, THEN they can talk to Apple about royalties.

They forced Microsoft into a bad deal, because M$ was desperate to look like they could compete with iPod+iTunes.

Universal greedy … !!!

I paid for all the songs on my iPods, what else do you want?

Do you think I get paid for every illustration I made each time it is used?

I want royalties for every blank sheet of paper! NOT

What next, are the States going to ask the Car manufacturers for a handout every time a car rolls off the assembly line because it may or may not drive on a highway.

MS did what they wanted, they threw a spoiler in there, just to fu@k with the model... If they get away with it we are all screwed on other stuff we use.

I'd like a villa in Tuscany, a beach house in Kauai, a few Ferraris, couple nice thoroughbreds, one or two of those wine cellars with the amazing vaulted ceilings, a staff of 12...

maybe I'll put that into my next compensation negotiation.

Comment just filed at Universal Music's contact page:

"I just read about your CEO's unconscionable attempt to force Apple to pay Universal a royalty for every iPod sold. If Doug Morris goes ahead with this plan, I will boycott every Universal CD, DVD, movie and theme park from that point forward, and I will urge everyone I know to do likewise. It's bad enough that your CEO believes most of the music on an MP3 player is stolen when surveys have clearly shown that that's not the case (my own iPod is full of songs copied from the CDs that I've purchased over the years and, more frequently lately, tracks purchased and downloaded from iTunes). But to call on a device manufacturer to pay money for every device sold, after having paid money to Universal for every track sold, will further sour your supposed customers on the greed of your company and its leadership, and encourage them to pirate their music rather than acquire it legally. Hey, if they're paying for it anyways through an iPod surcharge, why not?"

Here's the form:

http://www.universalstudios.com/homepage/html/contact_us/contact_form.cgi

...though you may need to start here:

http://www.universalstudios.com/homepage/html/contact_us/

What are the odds on 100 million pods by the end of the year? And when is the 2 billion tune?

Universal CEO Doug Morris, obviously an idiot.

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What a load of garbage. I tend to believe Microsoft entered into the deal with Universal JUST to get Universal to go after Apple. Microoft has deep pockets (for now, anyway) and knows they can afford to pay Universal a few bucks... But Microsoft also knew if they didn't agree to pay Universal, Universal would probably not go after Apple...

Microsoft is like one of those knats that keeps flying in your face even afer you swat it away...

In other news:

Hamburger patty companies will soon ask for royalties from the makers of hamburger buns
Car manufacturers will ask for royalties from tire manufacturers.
Window companies will ask for royalties from window cleaner companies.
Toothbrush companies will ask toothpaste manufacturers for a royalty.

and Doug Morris needs more hookers and blow.

two words for ya Dougie:
POUND
SALT

Let's give him 2 Cents…

Just remember that karma can be a bitch, Doug...

I will begin charging Universal a fee of 10 cents each time I play one of their songs on my iPod. Thanks, Universal.

"The Zune (deal) was an amazingly interesting exercise, to end up with a piece of technology," he added.



Piece of something......yes.

The day I am forced to pay a record company a royalty on a new iPod purchase is the day I start my torrent downloads 24/7. Nevermind I have all the music I want already. Nevermind the fact that the drivel passed off as music by the Major Labels today is pure shit. Just nevermind. If they stick me because I'm a thief, you can bet I'll go out and be a thief.

JA! JA!
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR UNIVERSAL.

It's like if the car manufacturers started installing a cardswipe and requiring you to use your debit card to unlock the door every time you wanted to go for a drive.

Or the commercials you may have seen where someone has to use an ATM to get to their bananas or cheese in the fridge. Or open their closet to get to that favorite shirt.

Just have two words for Morris:

NE VER

Why the freak should we pay extorsion fees to Universal becasue my neighbor might have ripped a CD of a Universal artist...

All record companies should be made to pay royalties to users and creators for the privlege of presenting other people's work.

All of the songs on my iPod come from the iTunes store and from about 25 cds that I actually own. Really this guy is pure jerk.

Maybe he should record his flatulence, release it in about 200,000 variations then demand royalties from all users who have an ass becase they might have similar sounding faltulence.

Maybe Dell, HP, Sony, etc. should start giving Universal a dollar for every computer they sell.

Don't people use those computers to rip CDs and download from P2P sites?

How many dollars does Universal receive from sales of CDs and other sources excluding online digital sales?

How many dollars does Universal receive from sales of music from iTunes?

How many dollars does Universal receive from sales of music from Zune Marketplace excluding the extortion fee paid by Microsoft?

How many dollars does Universal receive from the extortion fee paid by Microsoft?

How many dollars does Apple receive from the sale of Universal music from iTunes.

How many dollars does Microsoft receive from the sale of Universal music from Zune Marketplace after paying the extortion fee to Universal?

What losses will Apple accrue in actual dollars and percent of net profit if Apple refuses to pay the extortion fee and loses access to Universal?

What losses will Universal accrue in actual dollars and percent of net profit if Universal continues to provide music under the same conditions that currently exist with Apple’s iTunes?

I would like to see some verifiable numbers of profit and loss. I want to see pain and pleasure quantified in greenbacks.

Hey Universal,

K I S S M Y A S S.

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The end of that phonecall went something like this:

"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... {click}"

Ah, the high olfactory note of anxiety. It smells like greasy, even rancid tuna.

It's instructive to not only watch, but to participate in the death of an anachronistic, and increasingly un-needed infrastructure. Soon, self-publishing entites will develop Gonzo Marketing techniques to reach a critical mass of consumers, and then the real slide will begin.

How many people must you attract to fund a band? 10,000....100,000. Somewhere in that order of magnitude. I started a company 5 years ago, and now have over 300,000 hits annually.

It's enough to create a sustained, healthy cashflow. I live in SoCal, and many of the local bands are working real hard on self-marketing. Video-intensive websites with DVD promotions, and live music calendars.

It's the beginning of the end for the majors.

How greedy can one company get? They already get royalties when we buy CD's at the store and songs online in the first place. Paying royalties for each iPod on top of that is double-dipping! What's next? Making the RAM manufacturers pay royalties because the songs get stored there temporarily when we load up a song in iTunes?

Just let me know how much I am paying to Universal when I buy my iPod so I can, with a clean conscious, copy that much worth of songs I like from my friends. If I am paying for them I am going to listen to them.

What a bunch of CRAP! Greedy, Greedy GREEDY!!!

Gee maybe all the auto companies should levy a surcharge to all because some people engage in vehicular homicide?

Or how about charging every home buyer a 1% surcharge because usually when a murder is committed it takes place in a house?

All this nonsense started with the anti-gun lobby wanting additional fees and taxes from all gun buyers.

So, if I pay a royalty to Universal when I buy an iPod, am I at liberty to load Universal content for free?

I think Steve Jobs answer will be a flat out NO! Mr. Morris. Have a nice day.

So now we know why Microsoft is willing to lose millions on the Zune.
It was all just to throw a proverbial wrench in Apple's machine.
They can pat themselves on the back now, this was their only success.

I don't see how Universal can charge Apple a royalty for every iPod sold; I mean especially if an iPod owner doesn't buy one song from any Universal music artist.

I wuld just LOVE to know how much Uni has made of their Zune deal by now. 2 weeks after launch, with Black Friday behind us, how many Zunes do you think are out there? 10,000? Ha! That's laughable. I wish some mole at MS would fill us in.
Oh, the MS campus shut down today because of the snow that dumped on us. Now's our chance to TP the building. Who's with me?

-c

MW: 'found' (the Zune to be a very useful and attractive hammer)

PERFECT!

When he's made to eat dirt by Steve Jobs it will make Steve Ballmer and look even more foolish than they already do.

I don't even have an iPod, so I guess I'm off the hook - despite all the songs on my hard drive... heh, heh. What a dork! Dream on! Hell, an iPod can only play the songs, my computer can download them (paid or not) and rip them to an infinite number of cds. Let's see Universal go after all computers and get some kind of private tax on them. Good friggin' luck!

MS magic word: "living" as, Universal is living in a fantasy world!

You know who will lose if this greedy shite stain on the music industry decides to holdout for some undeserved royalty? THE MUSICIANS LOSE.

Everyday Universal is out of the iTunes store the artists lose.

Universal can't get their other shit together so they better look in every corner to see if there's a quarter or some blood money they can suck from someone who's innovating.

Those French Fu&#xks; have turned Universal into a bland and uninspiring brand during their tenure. Here's wishing they lose a butt load this holiday season.

Ptthhh. I fart in your general direction!

Universal can seek an iPod royalty all it wants. Getting one is something else.

It will be interesting to see the end results of the next round of label negotiations.

MDN word ask. As in: Ask and you shall receive. Or maybe not, if you're Universal.

Exactly who the fsck does this guy think he is?

iTS will probably sell 2B songs around March next year assuming the rate of 1B per year (as of Sept 06). Hopefully the DL rate will be increasing and Apple can announce 2B at MWSF

I am going to petition my Representatives to initiate a bill to tax Universal $1 for every child born with ears, as without ears, Universal's music would have no market. It's only fair they should pay in advance for access to the hearing market.

"Steve Jobs holds cards that Microsoft can only dream of holding."

Worst case scenario: The labels band together against Apple. I wouldn't doubt that they would do something so sleazy. I don't know anything about Microsoft, but I can guarantee that Steve Jobs is in no position to try to fight if the Industry teams up that way.

I would hope Jobs wouldn't cave to just one label, though. But, like they said with the Zune deal, more labels are looking into it... which just plain sucks.

Microsoft was needy and Mr. Morris is greedy. Fsck 'em both where they breathe.

Also, don't forget that most music sold is NOT sold via iTunes, but rather on CD.

Most iPod owners don't buy a tremendous amount of songs.

So Universal gets a cut of every Zune sold.....did they reach $10 yet?

Doug Morris ponders which local Dollar Store to squander his profit in. If he smart, he'll save it toward his very OWN ZUNE! Then he and Ballmer can take turns squirting each other all day.

If this deal goes down the way Universal wants, it will be an authorization for everyone to download freely. Since they have already paid for it. On your marks!!

Record industry is dead.

DW, if the labels collude to force Apple to concede, you can bet that the State of NY will be all over them. Eliot Spitzer is now governor but the NY Attorney General continues to have the labels in his sights.

No doubt the other 49 states will get in line for some easy money from the labels too.

So does this mean that all future media from universal will be free on my ipod. I mean if you pay them upfront because you may listen to there stuff how can they charge you again.

Gees...

Perhaps the Gas Producing Companies should receive a royalty for every car sold too. Wow... Sky is the limit on this one.

A move STEVE MUST SQUASH

I've said it once and I'll say it again - leave it to the M$ folks to mess up a great market!

I guess MS$ feels that if they can't play in someone sandbox then no one can - the world would be a much better place without the likes of M$!

Mr. Morris has been quoted as saying that iPod owners are thieves because a study that showed many songs on iPods were not purchased from the iTunes store. Of course most people fill their iPod with the CD's that they already own. I am going to send a photo of the 2000 CD's that I own and have loaded on my iPod. I have supported these record companies for years through my CD purchases. I had no choice. I do not steal music. I do not have to. There is a lot of great music available on the internet for free. Guys like Doug are scared shitless because they are becoming irrelevant. It is just a matter of time before parasites like Universal and Doug are marginalized out of existence.

I will not purchase any Universal product in the future. This is not BS. I am done giving money to these companies. I will purchase from the artist if possible, but I will not purchase UMG products. I think I can live without buying a Linsay Lohan or 98 Degrees tune. I suggest that everyone check the UMG website before they buy.

Also, inform musicians that you know not to sign with such a company.

E-mail the company to let them know your plans not to purchase from them in the future and include a photo of your CD collection (to prove you are not a thief.