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May 24, 08 - 09:05 am Comment from: ChrissyOne

It won't sell in Japan without GPS.

exactly what am I supposed to be suprised about here?

Chrissyone , are you some sort of export on japanese buying habits ?

I don't see hello kitty having GPS but it sells like toilet paper when the plague is in town

If she truly is an export then she may well be in the know

May 24, 08 - 09:24 am Comment from: IKON

one more thing…

May 24, 08 - 09:44 am Comment from: Famous Grouse

I'm sure GPS works really well in the concrete jungle of Shinjuku station....

FWIW, I tend to agree on the GPS side of things. Some folks seem to forget that the "S" in GPS is Satellite. And that the iPhone would need line-of-sight to make and maintain a connection.

This seems like a PIA to me and wouldn't work in the case I'd most like it where my beloved iPhone is sitting next to me in my car. Unless, of course there is some kind of antenna dongle. In that case, my objection would move from, "it won't work." to cumbersome, inelegant, and annoying. Three characteristics I'm betting Apple will avoid.

There is GPS built into it. My AT&T;corporate rep for my company said they were only told 2 things about it... 3G and GPS.

The writer is a loser trying to get hits.

GPSatellite...

Whereas the tower triangulation method currently employed works WONDERFULLY and ANYWHERE I can get a signal.

After actually USING iPhone's method o' mapping (which works even in the basement of our office, and I've used it to plan out routes before even setting foot in the car- As well as during a drive), I think that using a satellite to get your bearings is a step backwards.

Actually GPS stands for Global Positioning System

May 24, 08 - 10:09 am Comment from: MacSheikh

"SMS forwarding. Americans don't understand SMS, and aren't about to start now."

You Americans don't understand SMS? Are you serious? Is he serious?

May 24, 08 - 10:13 am Comment from: Wingsy

GPS is imprecise? They land planes with it, drop bombs through windows with it, and it takes me to within a few feet of the latest geocache. I wonder what the author would consider as precise, and how would anyone get it?

I am skeptical about built-in GPS, especially when those who need it will have 15 3rd-party external add-on choices soon. Perhaps improved triangulation location on their existing software would do the trick using much less battery power. The iPod didn't put FM internally, but provided an external solution for those who wanted it. Don't be so disappointed if the new iPhone doesn't have GPS.

May 24, 08 - 10:36 am Comment from: TowerTone

I want it to have 3GPS.
No, wait.
eLEVen GPS....

May 24, 08 - 10:36 am Comment from: Cire

I would be disappointed if it doesn't have GPS. That seems to be the feature that I most miss. I like the software emulation that currently exists, but it is not quite accurate enough. Last week, I got lost and it could only get me within four blocks of my actual position. Since I had no idea where I actually was, I still had to stop and ask for directions. Its the first time I've had to do that since I bought my iPhone.

The feature I want most is a spam filter for email...then I could use my iPhone for my email...NO MORE MALE ENHANCEMENT ADS!!!

May 24, 08 - 11:05 am Comment from: Logan

Cire,
next time that happens, look around, find an address, and then search the map for it. That should get you pretty close...

May 24, 08 - 11:06 am Comment from: Kai Ahnung

It will have GPS, but it will be external, by a box that can be connected via iPod connector or bluetooth. The GPS box will need (and have) its own power supply, and it can be planted in your car.

The iPhone should not have any new features, just add more memory. Apple should charge $200 above current prices, and then immediately drop prices by $200 a month later.

That way, Apple customers get used to the activity of paying even more at the initial release to get the latest and greatest.

Let's hope it doesn't add anything new, because new things drain the battery. Faster data network speeds drain the battery. GPS drains the battery. Video and games drain battery life.

So say no to anything new to the iPhone! New and useful is bad!

May 24, 08 - 11:26 am Comment from: ChrisW357

If this guy can get off saying that us lousy Americans don't understand SMS, then I can get off saying he's a fucking tool.

The great thing about social networking is that a collection of people with no knowledge or expertise on a subject can all come together and pretend they know everything. I love America!

May 24, 08 - 11:32 am Comment from: Spark

Actually, the full article is pretty good; it is about more than simple predicitions. So, if you just read the MDN synopsis, go back and link to the full article.

I'm with Cire on the need for spam filters. Perhaps we will now be able to add a 3rd party app, like SpamSieve, to do it. The requirement of deleting unwanted mail ONE AT TIME on the iPhone has been my only real disappointment (or gripe) with the product. Copy/Paste could certainly help in many cases, but mail is virtually crippled by the amount of time it takes to clean out mailboxes.

"SMS forwarding. Americans don't understand SMS, and aren't about to start now."

Excuse you?

Spam? Get a Gmail account…:-)

May 24, 08 - 12:34 pm Comment from: TowerTone

Spam? Spiral slice it and get some cloves. Mmmm......

i'm not buying one if it hasn't GPS, no way.

and i want google earth (3D)

May 24, 08 - 12:45 pm Comment from: Metryq

I thought "iPhone 2.0" was the new software, while the new hardware would simply be 2G (second generation) iPhone, the way the iPods are described. One generally does not see decimal places in hardware version numbers. Consider the movie version of SPEED RACER with the Mach 4, Mach 5 and Mach 6. Hmmm, I wonder if the Mach 5 has an iPod/iPhone dock?

The S in GPS does not stand for satellite. It stands for System, as in, Global Positioning System, whereby the system employs several satellites to triangulate your location. GPS is accurate to within +/- 3 meters. It takes a minimum of 3 satellites to get a fix. The more satellites employed the more accurate the fix.

What is it with you Europeans? Must you always take shots at Americans, given even just the smallest of chances?

"SMS forwarding. Americans don't understand SMS, and aren't about to start now." Jesus.......do you Euros get paid by the insult or something? Or do you collectively suffer from some sort of envy or other complex?

Pardon me for sounding jingoistic for a moment.....if not for we bad ol' Americans and our "backwardsness", you fine folks would either speak mostly German or mostly Russian at this point, and likely not even have iPhones, or GPS, or the 3G that you covet so much, or SMS, or any of that other fun stuff that comes with freedom.

So, on this Memorial Day weekend, how about YOU folks take a few moments, knock off the America-bashing for a bit, and follow me and many others in remembering our little contributions to your way of life?

Let the flaming begin!

May 24, 08 - 01:26 pm Comment from: ChrisW357

@ SaleenDriver - I ended up writing a letter to the Guardian about my thoughts on the piece of article. Hoping it'll do a bit of good, but doubting it also, considering I indicated that I'm one of those "ignorant" Americans.

"What features will be in – and left out of – the next iPhone"

"The article above, that Mr. Arthur wrote, has a comment that 'Americans don't understand SMS, and aren't about to start now.' Really though, it is my experience, being an American, that most of us understand SMS messaging, at least on a basic level if not on a level par to Europe. I'd like to know why he can get away with throwing insults at Americans in general. Most of us here have a healthy respect for Europeans, especially the British folk."

Cheers!

May 24, 08 - 01:27 pm Comment from: freefromdesign

Metryq

That was my understanding as well, I've noticed a lot of people use them interchangeably, confused by the (rumored) simultaneous release.

This guy is off his rocker! SMS? Come to any American college campus for a day and see how American youth interacts.

@SaleenDriver
Americans will probably start appreciate SMS just like anybody else around the globe once in a while... Even if their superiority complex and lack of auto-criticism may hold them back.

May 24, 08 - 01:36 pm Comment from: ChrisW357

@almux

While your experience may be that some of us have a "superiority complex", most of us really don't. Please don't assume all Americans are the same and keep the insults to yourself.

I'll respect you if you give the same respect back.

GPS is imprecise? 3 meters accuracy is imprecise? I live in San Jose and the current iPhone location system often has me miles from where I am. Sometimes it is spot on, but you have to check it against the map data. When at home it locates me two miles west on top of a hill where a cell tower lives whether WiFi on or off. And totally useless in most rural areas. As far as battery drain wouldn't it make sense to have it turn off like wifi? GPS is needed if indeed it will geolocate pics. In any case I am upgrading the day it comes out.

uhh if theres no gps, whats with all of the references in the iPhone 2.0 code about geotagging and the actual letters GPS?
apple adds things to their products that havent been big in other devices, so i think that GPS in a influential phone like the iPhone would be genius.
btw, there prolly wont a cheap iPhone until 3rd or 4th gen cause they didnt release iPod mini for a while after the iPod.

@ChrisW357
I'm sorry if i've hurted some americans who don't hang to a superiority complex.

May 24, 08 - 03:10 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

Someone should create Bingo cards using iPhone predictions, it would be fun!

May 24, 08 - 03:12 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

So, which predictions are for the new iPhone and which ones are for the original iPhone with the 2.0 software upgrade?

May 24, 08 - 03:19 pm Comment from: The Other Steve

Just a quick note on the current iPhone locater, when I'm in a moving car (even a slow moving car) the circle is much bigger and less accurate. When I'm standing still, I'm in Long Beach CA, it is dead on.
I was in a boat in a Florida swamp a few months ago and the locater nailed my position.

Saleen, you are right on point! Enough already with the America bashing. And as far as Almux goes and his so called "superiority complex" theory, I think it's quite the opposite: An inferiority complex on the offender's parts.

Spare us the anti USA crap, just review the damn phone.

May 24, 08 - 03:38 pm Comment from: Wade

Actually, I'm a usanian, and I have no idea what SMS forwarding is. SMS itself is kinda the text messaging thingee, yeah? I don't use that either.

May 24, 08 - 03:42 pm Comment from: Jamie

but aren't all Americans stupid??

my prediction: GPS included. Out of the box it will provide more accurate location in the Maps application and will offer geo-tagging of photos/videos. Then, Apple will make available on day 1 of the App store opening, a navigation app that will use the GPS, OpenGL, and google maps to basically utterly destroy Garmin and Tom Tom. They will offer a nice little dash mount that holds the iPhone sideways so you can easily use it in the car. Yet another market Apple will barge into and take over.

All it needs is Video Conferencing with ichat, and GPS

If it wasn't for us Brits the iPhone would look more like a Zune (we all know how awful American designers are).

Without America we'd be speaking German? Last I knew the USA joined the second world war when it was pretty much over.

Maybe we wouldn't be so anti American if you could stop invading counties for their oil and then pretending it's to stop terrorism. How on earth is Iraq linked to the Trade Centre tradegy?!

Go blow up Hiroshima.... weapons of mass destruction indeed.

And before you say "yeah but but but it stopped WW2!!!!" Germany had already surrendered when you were busy nuking those Japanese families.

Pricks

but aren't all Americans stupid??

No, some american folks that hold on to their european heritage are actually quite smart. Recent immigrants too.

And before you say "yeah but but but it stopped WW2!!!!" Germany had already surrendered when you were busy nuking those Japanese families.

America stopped WW2? Who the f**k believes this shit? (I mean, apart from americans).

May 24, 08 - 04:48 pm Comment from: TowerTone

foljs
sounds like you are picking a fight.
Don't worry, we know how it will come out....

Ummm isn't the new iphone rollout gonna be a massively international one? American's don't know how to use sms??? What is this guy smoking? And even if they didn't, the iphone is no longer America exclusive... they will sell like hotcakes everywhere, even in countries that have been using sms for a long time. I think Apple will improve the sms'ing on this new rumoured phone.

May 24, 08 - 04:50 pm Comment from: twilightmoon

outlaw: "And before you say "yeah but but but it stopped WW2!!!!" Germany had already surrendered when you were busy nuking those Japanese families."

yawn.

is that the best you got?

I'd bring up Pearl Harbor, but.. meh, why bother.

If you're a Brit, what are you doing talking about the American's invading anything?

May 24, 08 - 04:51 pm Comment from: twilightmoon

on the topic of iPhone2, I expect:

3g obviously
some form of GPS
higher resolution camera, including video
more ram and processor power
brighter screen