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i poop in my face

Hey Poop, you're stealing my act.
There's only room for one halfwit here.
Looks around.
Never mind...

My take. Too long to post:
http://tinyurl.com/d94g4

Without the mechanisms for malware to perpetuate by itself without interaction from the user, these industries will die out. No software that anyone could ever write will save a dummy from being helped into screwing up their machine-Mac or Windows. It's time for people to realize that if you spend a few more bux in the beginning on a Mac you will see better value over the life of the machine.

Guys! Guys! You don't understand!! This is serious!! It's just a matter of time before we are hit with viruses, spyware, malware, etc. Let's thank Symantec for saving the day!! I wish the programmers at Apple would have been more on the ball when writing the OS.

Apt name: Foo

Symantic ain't ever done a flippin' thing for me 'cept make my Mac all wonky after using it. after i went OS X i have been "Symantic-free" and ain't looked back.

Symantec suck a$$, they put fear in people.

'Nuff Said.

Let me get this straight...

First, a couple of years ago, Symantec decides not to develop Mac products anymore (hence the Vrex with .Mac accounts).
But wait.... marketshare is increasing. Even John Dvorak (via TWiT podcast) states that Mac marketshare will go up to 10%...then 20%.

Now all the sudden there are vulnerabilities?

curious....

zupchuck, you racist pig - Did you even read the linked article? You would have seen that the author, Fran Foo, had her picture at the top of the article, and she has a distinctly Asian appearance.

What kind of name is zupchuck? It suggest to me that your father mated with a groundhog, as no human female was attracted to him and you were the result!

To "zupchuck is a racist",

Stuff it where the sun don't shine. The last name "Foo" was apt because Symantec is pretty foobar on OS X virus positions.

To call me racist when you have no idea of my racial background shows complete ignorace akin to racism itself.

I really need to ditch my Mac OSx NOW before the worst happens...

Let's see here... I can take that old Dell laptop out of the closet and take it down to Future Shop. They have a $100 service where they will clean the old viruses out of it and check it for spyware. For only an extra $75, they will re-install Windows - but they won't do all the security updates unless I pay them another $75....

So... for only $250 Canadian, they will re-work the Dell's operating system for me. They will have to because the darn thing imploded just before I purchased my last Mac.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Then I'll have to purchase and install a new copy of Norton. Yup, about $375 Canadian should do the whole thing.

Whew! Glad I'm going to get rid of the Mac.... It's only a matter of time before it gets a virus!

So far - it's been 3 years and 2 months without a virus, data loss or even an unplanned re-boot, but I've just been lucky. Glad to be getting rid of that doggy Mac and back into a real Windows computer.

Remember - ANYONE can use an Apple Mac, but it takes a real man to use Windows!

Symantec can lick my Chocolate salty balls.

Chef

Guys, they are warning us because symantec is busy writing viruses for the Mac system. First they warn, then Symantec themselves releases some Mac virus into the wild and before you know it, you're buyin' their software to fight against the very viruses Symantec writes. It's a racket man!

Symantec et al. make their living from the dimwittedness of e-tards.

Ok, let's admit it's only a matter of time before we get a virus on Mac OS X and let's also ignore the possibility that it may be a VERY long time.

When the dreaded event occurs, who will we be looking to to fix it ?

I, for one, will expect Apple to fix the problem not Norton. After all, it's not a "feature" it's a bug and I expect Apple will recognize that re responsibility is entirely theirs.

Relying on third party products to fix one's own operating system's vulnerabilities and exploits is a concept introduced by Microsoft (not Apple).

My sense of security on the Mac is not false. Every day I surf the web with impunity. I do not worry about trojans. I do not worry about viruses. I do not worry about spyware. I don't worry about my own browser compromising my system. I don't worry about clicking on an e-mail and compromising my system. My e-mail address book has never been taken and used against me by malware. I do not worry about which pieces of crappy overly integrated Microsoft software are going to provide a buffer overflow that allows the average 6 year old to compromise my system.

Those concerns are the foundation upon which the Windows user exists. Not the Macintosh user.

I have sat down and tried to develop a contagion that could spread quickly on the Mac. It's hard, real hard. I haven't been able to do it. First of all, the BSD UNIX underpinnings make it far more difficult than apparently Symantec and Sophos are aware. Just attempting to load code onto the Macintosh without the knowledge of the user is next to impossible as the system starts alerting the user and asking for permission. Access to critical portions of the system seems next to impossible to get at because of the UNIX privilege system. More importantly, every program on the Mac isn't somehow connected to every other program providing an endless smorgasbord of compromise opportunities. THERE IS NO REGISTRY TO HACK FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

I am not saying it is impossible.

I am however saying that common sense on the part of the Mac user will suffice. There is no reason to support the likes of Sophos or Symantec.

IN FACT:

One of the most destabilizing things you can do to a Mac is install ANYTHING from Symantec onto the machine! I spend more time uninstalling Symantec software on Macs than I care to think about because people who don't know any better have succumbed to the FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) foisted upon them by the media and Symantec.

Symantec writes software on the Mac as if they are writing for Windows. The software loads crap all over the system, and it is wholly useless. There are zip, zero, nada known viruses for the Mac. What the heck then is the software looking for?

Bottom line, if and when the first Mac OS X virus appears, those products won't be ready, and by the time they are there will probably be a security update from Apple, which is far more nimble at such things than Microsoft.

And another little known secret, Most Mac users are actually more knowledgeable than their Windows counterparts from what I've observed as a consultant. They are very aware of where to go to get Mac information and news. They understand their systems. They know where the OS ends and applications begin. They are not like the typical Windows user that falls for simple minded porn tricks.

The only problem I have with viruses is MICROSOFT RELATED VIRUSES INVADING MICROSOFT DOCUMENTS ON THE MAC THROUGH YET AGAIN ANOTHER INSECURE SYSTEM CREATED BY MICROSOFT. Yup, Word Macro Viruses and Excel Macro Viruses are known to breakout in Mac shops and you have to remove them. They can't hurt the Mac, but it is annoying to know they are there.

Using Microsoft products on the Mac is like living in a disease free environment but having to deal with a SARS infected prostitute because she's the standard.

Again, I'm not saying compromise on the Mac is impossible. I'm just saying tell it like it is. Tell the truth, which really amounts to "Windows is the absolute most insecure system on the face of the planet, but just to be safe, you Mac users should use some common sense."