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Now, if we could convince my PC-loving father-in-law to switch....

It's refreshing to know another coma patient has been revived. So many sheeple to go.

The same thing happened to me when I had to work with an 200MHz NT box and a 75MHz Performa on the same desk. I ended up using the Performa to get work done even though I hated Macs. Welcome home!

Simple

MDN: One by one? so if 1 Winblows user turns to Mac in 1 day, how long will it take OS X to have 25% of the market? Let alone dominating the market as Winblows does now?

Arnold, he sounds like a real boar. And you shouldn't cast pearls before swine anyway.

"so if 1 Winblows user turns to Mac in 1 day, how long will it take OS X to have 25% of the market? Let alone dominating the market as Winblows does now?"

Didn't I see that on the S.A.T.? I answered "Amy". I hate those tests.

At least she is honest. So many people in the GUI design world will claim until they're blue in the face that "Windows is more intuitive" for the simple reason that "people are used to it." Intuitive is not equal to familiarity. What these folks are really pushing is their own familiarity and the stodgy-old status quo, not what's actually best for the user. Honestly, every Microsoft app requires you to learn different keystrokes for stuff anyways!

in the last 12 month i opend the eyes of a 4 of my friends and switched them to Apple and this on an island with more/less 140.000 hab.
Everyone of them are living now much better and enjoying ther computer.
And one sister of my wife will switch in February.

"One by one" means "individually". It does not mean "one a day". My geez, what is your problem?

Unsquirted,

You're right about him being a boar, both literally and figuratively. The

only way we could get him to even take a glance at our new Mac Pro with

30" monitor was to show him XP via Parallels. Oink!

It's kind of another 1984 moment.

Well Arnold, even if he does bring home the bacon you may have to get the herd together for a Mac "pentervention". He's been feeding from the PC trough for too long.

do you mean boar
or bore?

mdn word 'latter'

2 friends of mine ordered their Macs today and the brother of one of them was also a hardcore Windoze user, who knew it all better... Until he saw my MacBook running XP using Prarallels. Now this guy convinced his brother more and I myself another friend ... The units ship today! In total I assume there's nearly 10 Swichers now in 2 years around me and the number is growing... So when is the first Store coming to Germany? We need urgently need one... Steve, did you hear that?

"Bore or boar?" Not really both. He's intelligent and talented in many ways,

but when it comes to Macs, he is pig-headed!

radiomoscow: This link might help you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Ziffel

Good for you; one convert. What about those millions of other Windows users? I don't see them switching.

Paul Thurrott? Took him long enough

This is big, big deal.

Leaving behind something that's soft, warm and familiar is no small thing even if it's plagued with problems. lots of problems. a shitload of problems. a never-ending parade of notices, suggestions and requests and problems....like that movie with George Clooney, 'The Perfect Problem'.

You need courage...and support. I don't even know this woman... Erika Jonietz ..but I already love her. Maybe I'm fucked up.

Calling Ampar, calling Ampar....

Oh, Unsquirted, it is you!

Does anyone think Jobs is holding off on software upgrade announcements until the day after Vista (consumer version)comes out?

I like brainy chicks. Especially the ones that can write. I would date this lady just to engorge my mind in her choice of words.

This may seem extraordinarily obvious; after all, Apple has built an entire advertising campaign around the concept. But I am obstinate, and I have loved Windows for a long time.

Let me help you forget.... You have iChat, non ? Let's integrate sometime.

My efforts to get Media Center working highlighted two big problems with Vista. First, it's a memory hog. The hundreds of new features jammed into it have made it a prime example of software bloat, perhaps the quintessence of programmer Niklaus Wirth's law that software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster (for more on the problems with software design that lead to bloat, see "Anything You Can Do, I Can Do Meta," p. 36). Although my computer meets the minimum requirements of a "Vista Premium Ready PC," with one gigabyte of RAM, I could run only a few simple programs, such as a Web browser and word processor, without running out of memory. I couldn't even watch a movie: Windows Media Player could read the contents of the DVD, but there wasn't enough memory to actually play it. In short, you need a hell of a computer just to run this OS.

Aye, Vista [and the MW: office] - bloat by a company that cannot fathom the concept of restraint.

"engorge my mind"

Yep. My mind stiffened up pretty quickly reading her stuff. Now my hat doesn't fit.

Alright! Enough with the pig jokes!
We have feelings too!

Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind...

Loyalty to a more powerful abuser — in spite of the danger that this loyalty puts the victim in — is common among victims of domestic abuse, battered partners and child abuse (dependent children). In many instances the victims choose to remain loyal to their abuser, and choose not to leave him or her, even when they are offered a safe placement in foster homes or safe houses. This syndrome was described by psychoanalysts of the object relations theory school (see Fairbairn) as the phenomenon of psychological identification with the more powerful abuser.

Now my hat doesn't fit. [Unsquirted] You have to [cough] roll-it-on before you squirt.

I just made the switch to Apple myself. I can't believe how excited I am for my Mac to arrive. I don't think that people realize that almost anything that can be done on a PC can be done on a mac these days. AND, the user gets to enjoy their experience with their OS, which is something that most windows users don't have the privilege of. Also, the mac community is excited about their product of choice, where as a lot of windows users complain to no end about how much windows sucks. Then why not make the switch? I did...

Nick Young
http://keynote2keynote.blogspot.com

Back in the "Day" I loved DOS. Windows 3.1 just slowed everything down. We worked in AutoCAD 90% + of the time. Managed directories with Xtree Gold. Only booted into Windows to run WORD. AutoCAD worked great on a 486 with 8 MB (not GB) of RAM. Took Autodesk YEARS to make a decent version of AutoCAD that ran on Windows.

Mac as that time didn't handle vector graphics well and cost a lot more.......

Different story now. Twelve years on the Mac- starting with System 7 -and after about 6 months of WTF, you couldn't pay me to switch back.

Decrypt3 says:
Good for you; one convert. What about those millions of other Windows users? I don't see them switching.
While this troll almost has a point, he's missing some obvious facts:
- mention of this is symbolic of a wide-spread phenomena
- this switcher is one of the hard-core, not a casual user
- this switcher was convinced by her use of Vista, not OSX
- hundreds of thousands of PC users switch yearly
- hundreds of Mac users 'reverse switch' yearly

Trolls like this are one reason some of us would like a real forum with Accounts.

DLMeyer - the Voice of G.L.Horton's Stage Page

G4Dualie:

"Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind..."

So does cognitive dissonance. It's very painful and scary for most people.

So, Unsquirted is Ampar? HHmmm, could be.

Now, all we need is Sputnik and Peterson's bad experience.

R:

I was thinking the same thing. Why do so many of MDN's editorials sound like they were inspired by Winston Smith from 1984? Kind of scary.

DLMeyer I was thinking along similar lines. But am wondering, does anyone know of any links for Mac to Windows switchers?

No merit whatsoever on her part. If she was that dumb to suffer Windows hell during 2 decades, I simply cannot take anything computer related seriously from her.
It's embarrassing really.

Verbatim: Don't compare me to trolls.

Schwing! He gets it! Duh.

Mac-Forums.com
Go to Switcher Hangout

Anyone else know of switcher forums
or message boards?

Nick,

Welcome to the Mac Community. You'll enjoy your new system. However, if you do run into problems that you can't solve on your own, be sure to ask around. Fellow Mac users tend to want to help one another.

Regards.

Sorry Unsquirted, that wasn't my intention.

Just hankering after the "old days".

this story hit close to home for me. Personally, 2005 really was like coming out of the dark ages. Tiger still blows my mind

boar, bore or boor?

No problem, Verbatim. I hope there are better associations!



Cornell: Is that a Boer war?

Another one unplugged from the MS Matrix.

A very good friend of mine is a diehard Windows user, not because he loves Windows so much, but because he's a gamer, and uses high-end 3D apps like Studio Max that aren't written for OS X. He also likes to build his own machines and tinker. Because of his expertise, he has very few problems with his machines. He is just exactly the kind of person who *should* use Windows.

He told me today me might buy a Macbook. He thinks it will run Windows better than a PC for the stuff he needs Windows for. I think he's right. But this is HUGE. This is like... like me buying a Zune. {I feel dirty}

So the tide just might be turning this time. I think it's all going to be about 2007. Whatever happens this year will set the stage for the next decade or more of computing. I can't wait to see what happens.

-c

sry, "he" might buy a Macbook.

Me buy Macbook. Heap big screen.

"Nick,
Welcome to the Mac Community. You'll enjoy your new system. However, if you do run into problems that you can't solve on your own, be sure to ask around. Fellow Mac users tend to want to help one another.
Regards."

Thanks, I'm really looking forward to my new machine! Everyone in the community has been a great help thus far and I foresee them being even more helpful when I start needing real help and not just buying advice

ChrissyOne: It's time to switch to decaf.

When I went to the web page where the original article was posted, to the right of that article was an Intel ad that had three leopards in front of three computers. I clicked on the ad, which took me to http://www.intel.com/business/xeon/?ppc_cid=EntMul1H07us_1B5 and again, there were three leopards in front of one of those computers.

I presume the leopards were in reference to the upcoming OS X 1.5

I am unfamiliar with the computer behind the leopards. Was it a generic computer, or was it a Mac Pro we haven't seen before?

Is it possible that Intel put out an ad prematurely?