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Jan 06, 09 - 03:43 pm Comment from: ChrissyOne

I'm now convinced. The internet is making us all dumber.

I'm off.

Robert Lustig never mentioned and may not know that Steve is a BIG TIME vegetarian. Protein is hard to take in without a meat source.

Keep Steve Jobs on just get him a burger please!

Jan 06, 09 - 03:53 pm Comment from: alansky

Vultures will eat anything.

For an expert, that guy sounds like an idiot. I am a 3rd year vet student and can piece together what Steve has from his albeit, not that informative statement.

While saying hormone balance, is slightly incorrect, what it sounds like Steve has is Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency or EPI. Probably a result of his surgery that removed parts of his pancreas. Basically, the cells that produce enzymes which digest food particles allowing them to be absorbed are nil, or just inadequate in numbers to allow the proper absorption of all the nutrients he needs, thus the weight loss. He probably does have some diarrhea, but why would he include that personal tidbit in the note. Fortunately this is easily treatable with a simple supplemental powder of the enzymes that he is lacking.
Basically easy treatment, more of a difficult diagnosis to come to however. Now everyone can shut up about it being cancer or that it doesn't make sense. All the facts necessary are there, and none to support that other crap.

These assh-les just wont let it go.

Jan 06, 09 - 04:04 pm Comment from: Steveeee

@ a man with knowledge

Agreed, but I think his pancreas was removed totally, plus a bit of re-route of his intestine, that complicates the absorption of nutrients. His nutritional supplement is probably some form of partially digested protein that can be easily absorbed.

@ Steveeee

I don't think they removed the entire pancreas. It is a relatively important organ both hormone and enzymewise. They probably removed portions, or one lobe of it along with some bowel and redirected the pancreatic duct to a different part of intestine. Partially digested protein wouldn't be the entire solution as many enzymes work on things other than protein there. The powder to fix this has all the necessary enzymes and is just taken with a meal and is straightforward and very cheap.

The only way to buy Apple these days is to set some money aside and use the 'Steve Jobs is Dead' dips as buying opportunities.

@ChrissyOne,

I agree. Some discipline is needed.

Jan 06, 09 - 04:14 pm Comment from: ndelc

"...called speculation 'very silly.' "

Yes, it is, so why are they speculating? Here's hoping Steve puts on 100lbs so they'll all shut up. No, strike that. Then they'd all say a heart attack was imminent. Sorry Steve, there's no way to win.

Jan 06, 09 - 04:19 pm Comment from: Cascadians

Whaaaaaa! They forgot to analyze a possible booger!

Jan 06, 09 - 04:27 pm Comment from: Cubert

This is what I said yesterday. As a physician, I cannot for the life of me figure out what he could possibly have from his statement. I cannot imagine that it was as simple as needing pancreatic enzyme replacement therapy - that would be standard of care after his operation.

Maybe one of the M.E.N. syndromes?

did i read it right? he recommended that steve should have mentioned if he was pissing it out or shitting it out? to the public over the internet?

Jan 06, 09 - 04:30 pm Comment from: Cubert

A man with knowledge and Steveeee,
See my post above. I guarantee that he was started on enzyme replacement therapy right after the surgery. It is standard of care.

Jan 06, 09 - 04:30 pm Comment from: HMCIV

Steve's hormone imbalance is legitimate. The alleged thyroid disorders are a result of too much media attention focused on his health.

Jan 06, 09 - 04:30 pm Comment from: Greg L

Riiiiiiight According to Keim , Jobs should have written: My body has been unable to absorb proteins because I lose them via defecation.

Perhaps Keim should issue a press release explaining how the precise biochemical pathway through which he lost an abundant portion of his neurons. My guess is that his is most certainly out his ass.

Jan 06, 09 - 04:39 pm Comment from: DRM sucks

I hardly think that the note from Jobs was meant as a serious treatise for physicians regarding his medical conditions. When a layman is describing a medical condition, the odds of using terms inappropriately are likely and, since they are meant for other laymen, totally appropriate.

The thought that somehow Jobs can be diagnosed from his note is ridiculous.

Jan 06, 09 - 04:42 pm Comment from: Cascadians

Greg L -- LOL!

Once again, Wired has a bad case of explosive diarrhea of the keyboard.

i think the board should force steve jobs into documenting everytime he has diaherrea via youtube. as a shareholder its important to know if the CEO is dying via poo

Jan 06, 09 - 04:54 pm Comment from: NCIceman

Aside from Steve running a triathalon or lifting 300 lbs on stage, rumors will continue...

I think we all need to remind these pundits that Steve is not a force of nature, he's a human being.

What ever he's got, it doesn't sound very nice, can't they just leave him alone?

Makes me wonder what each additional pound on Job's body is worth to the stock price. What if he blimped up like Schiller?

We might really get to $250 a share!

@ssholes.

The man lost a big chunk of pancreas. a digestive and endocrine gland, and had a major re-route in his belly. Under the best of conditions, one would expect difficulty keeping weight on in any person who's been through it.

Multiple myeloma loosing significant protein- enough to loose weight via urine? Is this guy stoned?

Sometimes free speech is not a blessing.

Macbones, MD.

Jan 06, 09 - 05:42 pm Comment from: Asmodeus

Wired is a piece of shit magazine. They have been since '05 when they decided to take the tabloid route.

Rather than buy this magazine, take the $6 and wipe your ass with it, then flush it. Same result.

Jan 06, 09 - 05:43 pm Comment from: Shadowself

Steve Jobs must have a PET scan of his entire body (from the soles of his feet up through and including every hair follicle he has left! Then he must publish on the web the raw data from the entire series of scans.

Steve Jobs must have a full blood work up of every possible kind with tests that will eliminate every known pathogen and detail every chemical agent in his blood. Again, he will have to publish the raw data (including traceability of the handling of the blood delineating the name of every person who was even in the same room with any given vial).

Steve Jobs must have a full set of EKGs, EEGs as well as MRIs and X-rays of his entire body. Yet again he should publish on the 'net the full set of raw data from each one of these tests.

Steve Jobs must submit biopsy samples of all major organs: brain, heart, lungs, liver, pancreas, large & small intestines, kidneys, bladder, prostate, skin, major bones, etc., etc. Once again the raw data must be published on the 'net (again, including traceability of the handling of the samples including the name of every person who was even in the same room with any given sample).

Then he must document his entire medical history -- every headache, every hangnail, ever stubbed toe, every skinned knee, etc. This must then be followed by a thorough medical exam by not less than 3 each of doctors who are board certified internal medicine, board certified cancer specialists and board certified endocrinologists.

Then he must get the *entire* medical staff of the Mayo Clinic to review and certify every single piece of this data.

Finally, * * * ALL * * * of it must be reviewed and certified by the Surgeon General.

Then after all this is done...

He **MUST** do it again every three months!

Maybe THEN the press will start to believe he's not on his death bed. (But knowing the press... I doubt it.)

I wish MDN would just delete this Storyline and Thread entirely...it only serves to stir the pot and further infringe on Mr. Jobs' privacy, in my opinion.

@ChrissyOne

Happy New Year...Wish you Peace, Health, and Happiness!

Wired speculates about Apple CEO Steve Jobs’ urination, defecation, and possible ‘massive diarrhea’

That's it. These idiot "news" sites HAVE hit bottom (no pun intended).

Really, who really wants to know about Steve gastrointestinal functions?

Absolutely disgusting.

Obsessive redesign of the battery... THE BATTERY rather than just add a little weight or thickness.

Steve Jobs is alive and well.

As for the stock... it's a freaking bear market. Someday it won't be (or they'll be a wicked correction) and the shorts will find that no amount of rumoring will drive the stock down and the buying to cover will be just as exaggerated as the short selling was.

A guy in Germany just killed himself over his short position in Volkswagon. Shorts are much more vulnerable than longs. Longs can just hold.

Utterly pathetic. I guess Wired must be losing readers and is resorting to tabloid sensationalism.

Instead of showing compassion, the media is responding with cynical scorn for someone who has obviously suffered significant physical trauma and personal humiliation. I wish the same to the author of the Wired article. But I am not surprised to see articles like this - bitterness is the trademark of little men, not greatness.

I eagerly await the day when Steve shows up in public, stronger and in well-deserved improved health. His actions will be his eventual vindication.

Jan 06, 09 - 08:01 pm Comment from: amyhre

Unless he's stopped eating fish, last I knew Jobs was described as being a pescatarian, i.e. vegetarian who eats fish as well as eggs and cheese, not vegan. Would be much easier to get protein that way than being straight vegan where the sources of protein you choose to eat are limited to legumes such as beans and soy.

Jan 06, 09 - 08:36 pm Comment from: Cascadians

If the humanimal body is working normally, Haagen-Dazs ice cream puts on the pounds. Lots of pounds, fast.

It is healthier to be too thin rather than too fat. Of course being perfect is ideal

"I'm now convinced. The internet is making us all dumber."

well.. you anyways

Jan 07, 09 - 12:22 am Comment from: buliguo

Steve should simply take a break and spend some time in Collioure (France) where he should go on a anchovy diet at the Canpla restaurant or chez Jimmy in the foothills of the Canigou where he should ask for an omelette aux reponjous. Both have been known to cure many a disease, including conditions of spleen following sudden drops in stock values. 2 weeks there incognito and he will be a new man. I did, I am.

oh my god.. i just saw steve eating 2 crackers and man, he is now a huge fat ass.... woah