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Nov 22, 08 - 12:53 pm Comment from: Macintosher

Excuse me, but I also told MDN about this! But I don't mind... I'm just happy that Woz is making a decent appearance! Ho ho...

Macintosher

Don't worry about it... its happened to me on more than one occasion as well.

Nov 22, 08 - 01:58 pm Comment from: nekogami13

Who cares about Woz(other than his friends and family)?
How is he relevant to Apple and its products now or the past 8 years?

He's not.
It's great he runs around helping kids in educational settings and is a venture capitalist.
You want to know more-get "iWoz".
Now stop posting crap about him.

Nov 22, 08 - 03:45 pm Comment from: PT

To me Woz and Jobs were not unlike Tanzing Norgay and Sir Edmund Hilary. Hilary got all the fame and the photo ops, while Tanzing basically carried him up the hill and allowed the experience to happen to Hilary so he could become 'the man'. Tanzing is always the background guy; the worker, not the face. No Woz definitely no Jobs. No Jobs, Woz would be at HP or wherever engineering things. They needed each other. Time marches on, for sure, but a debt of gratitude should not be forgotten.

As for people he denigrate Woz and dismiss him as a has been. Guess it is better to be a has been than a never-will-be. No many people get to say they made a major impact in changing the world for good. So think about what a sad, petty, pissant of a person you are for trying to tear down somebody like Woz (feeling inadequate are we?). Guess having the role model of somebody who changed the world from their garage and gives back to the community isn't something we should aspire to or venerate?

And consider: Just were did the Apple philosophy of engineering excellence and ease of use start? Gee, was it with Woz? That's quite a legacy in itself and one you'd do to remember every time you use an apple device. A culture of engineering excellence is an apple hallmark.

As a parent, who would I want as a role model for my son: Woz or some over sterioded wrestler or gun toting idiot? Gee...tough call...not...

/* "How is he relevant to Apple and its products now or the past 8 years?" */

So why do we teach kids about history- Abe Lincoln is not relevant all of a sudden?-

The founding fathers aren't relevant?

Today matters because of what we did yesterday.

Nov 22, 08 - 05:05 pm Comment from: Mac Daddy

I like Woz news - he epitomizes classic nerdliness. It's refreshing!

As for the no Woz, no Jobs thing - interesting point, but you misunderestimate Jobs's ability as a CEO. Jobs, unlike many CEOs, knows Apple's customers are the people who buy the products. Too many CEOs forget that and start acting like the customers are the stockholders.

Both made Apple - I'm glad they met

Nov 22, 08 - 05:06 pm Comment from: Jamie

@PT,

"As a parent, who would I want as a role model for my son: Woz or some over sterioded wrestler or gun toting idiot? Gee...tough call...not..."

As a parent, I choose Woz every time: he's a thinker, a person who can change the world for the better.

Great post PT, thanks for taking the time.

Peace.

As a parent, I choose Woz every time: he's a thinker, a person who can change the world for the better.

--

I'm not a parent, Woz is a great person, but weird.

Weird, and here I thought Woz was the main reason behind the advancement of this thing called the internet. Do not reference iWoz, and then say he is not relavent anymore.

Nov 22, 08 - 08:23 pm Comment from: Grifterus

Yes, please:

STOP BASHING WOZ!!!

Apple has of him as much as it has from Steve Jobs. Different doesn't mean bad. There ARE different. They were also complementary.

Whatever happened to "Thinking Different?" Well, Woz is a great example of that.

I like Woz. I admire Woz. I believe everybody should. Personal computers are the way they are thanks to Woz (great suggestion: read "iWoz"), and please realize it's just not fair to bash him they way some people do.

Who cares about Woz? Well, I CARE! And I'm sure a lot of people who knows how relevant Woz has been to this industry do as well. And I want to know what he thinks.

Who cares? Anybody and everbody who is paying attention.

The oblivious idiots? They NEVER care.

I have lost all respect for Woz. The guy is turning out to be a thud. Also, Steve Jobs has done an incredible job with the company but he needs to move it on to new blood. Long live the Steve's! Now Woz shut the hell up.

Nov 23, 08 - 11:13 am Comment from: BiZarRo BaLlmEr

Isn't Woz usually bashing Apple and the iPod

Nov 23, 08 - 11:34 am Comment from: Cubert

I think it's interesting that he still uses the pronoun "we" when talking about Apple in the present day.

Nov 23, 08 - 01:06 pm Comment from: British Mac Head

@ nekogami13
"Who cares about Woz(other than his friends and family)?
How is he relevant to Apple and its products now or the past 8 years?"

He invented the micro computer as we know it dude!
Everything else since then is derivative.

So I guess until the computer becomes something radically different then Woz has contributed and his legacy still defines what we all use not. Even Windows and Linux users have him to thank.

And on top of that he seems like a really nice guy

So I guess the only question is what have you invented that has changed the world neko?

Nada?

Thought so!

LOL.

Nov 23, 08 - 01:08 pm Comment from: British Mac Head

That should have been "what we all use now"

D'oh!

"So why do we teach kids about history- Abe Lincoln is not relevant all of a sudden?-"

other then getting shot, what was so great about Lincoln?

Oh yeah, stealing money from the U.S. treasury, whoops forgot that was all forgiven once he took the bullet, he was called "honest Abe" after the bullet.

You might want to find a better example

Nov 24, 08 - 07:31 am Comment from: El Guapo

@PT

Amen brother!