“The iPhone is running an optimized, but full version of OS X that weighs in at ‘considerably less’ than half a GB, according to Apple vice president of worldwide iPod marketing Greg Joswiak,” Karen Haslam reports for Macworld UK.
Haslam reports, “Joswiak confirmed that the operating system sits in the flash memory of the device and that Apple will ‘provide updates to the operating system like we do today.'”
Haslam reports, “Joswiak claimed that the reduced size of the operating system was a result of expertise of the team at Apple, rather than cutting out functionality or removing core technologies. ‘Remember that OS X on a Mac features a lot of applications that we don’t have to ship on the iPhone,’ he added.”
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Magic word: million. Apple will sell multiple million of the iPhone
‘Remember that OS X on a Mac features a lot of applications that we don’t have to ship on the iPhone,’ he added.” … For all the retarded people out there…
“Remember that OS X on a Mac features a lot of applications that we don’t have to ship on the iPhone” …..
but a user might be able to download some of those they want … they sky’s the limit with this.
Sucks though that we can’t write our own programs for it 🙁
I hope that it atleast runs java apps.
Is that half a gig using the 4 or 8 GBs of storage, or is there an extra allocation, perhaps 1GB of “ROM” that the user cannot touch except when running Apple-supplied updates?
Sucks though that we can’t write our own programs for it 🙁
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for example, viruses..
hmmm on a phone full of address book contacts.. i wonder how that would work
I would imagine it lives on the main flash drive as it would make the most sense for a lot of reasons. As capacities increase it will become less and less an issue, but if it were on its own drive then you would be stuck with whatever limitation you started with. If anything I can see it being an hidden, allocated partition of the main drive.
@ mike
“for example, viruses..
hmmm on a phone full of address book contacts.. i wonder how that would work”
Yeah, damn good point.
Can you imagine a beowulf cluster of these?
(sorry, somebody had to say it)
What? The iPhone only runs OS X!!
That my friends is illegal … why I should be able to run any operation system I want on the iPHone …
You guys are limiting My CHOICE! ….
Beware .. beware all possible buyers of this phone … you won’t be able to run Windoze on it and its got the iTunes thingy that restricts CHOICE too!!!
That’s it .. I’m suing because Apple is so restrictive and is handcuffing me to one platform …
It’s all about CHOICE … you hear me … CHOICE!
Apple will limit you to their lousy products if you choose this phone … don’t get sucked in ..
Please ! If we all get together … we can destroy Apple and all it stands for …
Are you with me … or the terrorist non choice Apple monopoly …. Huhhhhh?
I’d be willing to bet that we will be able to write apps for it, starting with widgets.
If it is a full blown version of OS X, it won’t take long to figure out how to get your own stuff running.
I’m surprised that Apple wouldn’t want this.
That’s a major selling point for the phone to me.
I want:
Terminal
VNC
WiFi scanner
etc.
I want to be able to connect over the internet with the phone to my desktop in my home office to get or store files or even synch up.
I just don’t want to pay $1500 to do it.
“Sucks though that we can’t write our own programs for it :”(
Yeah, you know everyone I know comes home from work at night and, right after dinner, spends the evening writing software for their mobile phones…
I hope Apple would allow access to a user’s multimedia and data files store on his computer(s), AppleTV and on the iDisk. What if you have EyeTV? Shouldn’t it be a natural to allow you to control your own virtual tv content and stream it to the phone? Maybe Apple could do something similar to location free or Orb.
“Sucks though that we can’t write our own programs for it”
This strikes me as being the same as DRM for iTunes. Apple doesn’t want it, but the carrier thinks it needs it just like the Record labels think they need DRM.
For the price, I hope Apple will plan on having MacOSX and iPod games ported over. Also does the fact that the iPhone has MacOSX mean that it will have the same printing capabilities and Bonjour as the computers have?
“Shouldn’t it be a natural to allow you to control your own virtual tv content and stream it to the phone?”
Umm…. It’s a widescreen VIDEO iPod that syncs with iTunes! That’s just one of the things it does out of the box.
Everyone I know works their ass off in their spare time installing Linux on everything they can.
None of them will buy a locked Apple phone that uses only OS X.
Stupid bastards.
“Everyone I know works their ass off in their spare time installing Linux on everything they can.”
Obviously we travel in different circles. Please tell us about “everyone” who spends their spare time installing Linux..
I would suggest getting a life.
I guarantee that a major sticking point that Apple had to face was the desire of Cingular and other vendors to lock down the phone. For instance, carriers charge $2.50 for a ring tone while Apple only charges $0.99 for an entire song. The carriers don’t want a flexible phone if they can’t charge fees for every extra function.
I’m guessing that with all of the developers that will be clamoring to get their apps on the phone, Apple will be in a position to sort through everything and the most compelling and innovative apps would be granted approval to warrant the Apple treatment. In the long run, this maybe the best move for MacOSX on the grander scheme of things. There maybe a trickle down effect from this ushering in a slew of applications that if not allowed for the phone would be converted for the computers. On consoles, each game must go through this type of arrangement to receive the stamp of approval from the console’s creator. I would guess that their will be some free apps just as there is always free content on iTunes. Just as there were some built-in games with the iPod. Just a thought.
Chris, I’m aware of that, but you may be somewhere where it would be nicer to stream the live tv content coming into your computer at home or maybe you just want to tap into the iSight built in your computer to see your wife while you are across the world but you aren’t able to pull out your laptop just to do that. She could be in front of the computer at home and she calls you through skype, why wouldn’t you want to be able to see her even though she can’t see you? At least the video could be streamed to you while you are talking to her since this can multitask.
Remember it only has 8GB so you are not going to want to try to put all of the content that you have on your iMac at home on the iPhone, so if it was able to stream some of that content, you aren’t limited to 8GB of content, you should be able to see anything that you have available on your home network and have it stream through.
@Big Al
Maybe you can help with this one. I’m trying to get Totem to work on my Fedora Core 6 install on my 5 year old Dell laptop. Problem is I need some depencies fulfilled before I can complete the totem install which doesn’t seem to take. I had to modify the kernel to get the wireless working and since then I can’t get the sound to work, but that’s another story—or is it related? Anyway, I’m getting errors after the ‘make install’ command for the wincodecs32 dependencies. What’s up?
Thanks in advance. Any assistance is appreciated.
You’re right. Linux RULES!
If the multitouch interfaced was pioneered by Jefferson Hann at NYU, how can it be held as an exclusive for one company and one device? For the sake of technological advancement shouldn’t it be allowed to be licensed to other companies the way that the mouse was? This seems like a natural for other input devices. How does that work? How do technical advances spread?
Correction: Jefferson Han