“Copying the self-serving campaigns run by SVTC and Greenpeace, the group Climate Counts has made Apple, Inc. the core of its latest press releases. The group says Apple “is not yet taking meaningful action on climate change,” and is a ‘choice to avoid for the climate-conscious consumer,’ but then points out that its ‘action’metrics are all based on ineffectual political posturing. And the reason for the tough critique: Apple elected not to join the Climate Counts consortium last year and throw money at the group’s ineffectual efforts to ‘facilitate engagement,'” Daniel Eran Dilger writes for RoughlyDrafted.
Dilger writes, “So while Climate Count’s numbers are really based entirely upon how much talk each company does, it publicly called out Apple for “not yet taking meaningful action.” Is crafting reams of policy statements ‘meaningful action?’ Are Apple’s really meaningful, industry leading actions irrelevant because they aren’t always publicly advertised? Further, do the companies Climate Counts recommends to consumers over Apple actually follow their policy statements? And do their actual actions count for anything?”
Dilger writes, “Both Greenpeace and Climate Counts know that they can say anything bad about Apple and get away with it. The details won’t really matter, because the lazy tech media will simply post their ‘bad Apple’ press releases without any critical review, as every media outlet is now doing. However, that doesn’t make their respective campaigns any less deceptive and meaningless. Climate Counts isn’t saving the planet, it’s really only acting to secure its own funding.”
Full article here.
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Sounds like extortion
Remember kiddies, what you say is always more important than what you do!
It IS Tom V it IS! And there are enough stupid people that I am betting my future on it by setting up companies to fund “carbon credits” (actually to help make me a zillion dollars and keep my fat face in the public eye). I am so sure people are that dumb that I have started an advertising campaign and will invest over 300 million up front duping the suckers bwwaahahahaha.
climate Counts are amateurs, pikers, a bunch of Greenpeace and Owl Gore wannabes who don’t know how to *really* bilk the public.
climate c-unts. and green piss can go to h-ll with their fake-o anti-human tripe. Go and harass algore in his mansion.
Sue them
I am a card carrying Democrat, and have been since 1984.
“Global Warming” is nothing more than an industry.
Shitheads like this create backlash which really does allow harmful things to happen.
Have a nice Sunday!
I am a “card carrying Independent”, have been since the Seventies, and I think this is just more “politics as usual”. You pick your side and play your game and things change regardless. One of the few things I ever agreed with Dubya about was the price of gas … the only way to get people to cut back is to make them bleed green until they do.
Things were headed downhill in a hurry in the Fifties. Rivers and lakes were so bad you couldn’t swim in them, much less drink from them or eat the fish you caught in them. The air was getting worse by the season. Love Canal became the poster-boy for dumpers. We got a lot of that turned around, the worst of it at least. But, the harder the left pushed for “man caring for the land”, the more the right – even the religious right, in defiance of Christ’s teachings regarding stewardship – pushed back. Now we have clowns berating positive influences for not being positive enough and fools denying that things are still going downhill – if much more slowly. stooge, that means you. And Owl, and ron, too. While I agree that some of the noisier advocates of ‘green’ are out of line, those who push back merely for profit’s sake ought to be thrown into public stocks and stripped of those profits.
There must be a balance between raping and pillaging on the one hand and starving ourselves as Good Stewards on the other, a balance where we leave a better earth for our kids than the one our parents left for us. Climate Count and Green Peace are not, if they ever were, useful advocates for this balance. While Green Peace has done some good in the past, I don’t see their current endeavors as positive … except in the light of the childish “I wanna destroy because it’s my RIGHT” reaction they set off.
GE polluted the Hudson river with non-degradable carcinogenic toxins for the better part of a century. Last year they installed a power-generating windmill in the Berkshire Hills (just across the border) to reduce a ski resort’s carbon footprint. This is positive action. CC is more about making self-serving noise. Don’t confuse the two.
Bond Co stooge… you are correct. There is no climate crisis, never has been never will be. Weather patterns change, they always have and always will. Most of the climatic factors are land-use issues. Putting 5 million people in a 300 square mile area will always cause problems, adding trace amounts of a trace gas into the atmosphere, does not. Money and power, the driving force of the AGW movement.
This is all a scam. Junk science. A bunch of gullible people who want to feel good and believe in something.The worse part of it is how they’re brainwashing kids in schools with this garbage.
DLMeyer,
I agree with you entirely.
There are still far too many nutters on this site who don’t believe that we human beings have played a role in global warming.
The (climatic) scientists are now almost unanimous on this point.
environmentalist = anit-capitalist = anti-progress
But I thought your were “progressive”?
Three active volcanoes, all erupting at once, would produce so much carbon dioxide that they would make man’s total worldwide output look downright insignificant.
The world has recovered from several astroid strikes. A little excess plant food in the atmosphere is no problem at all.
Right ye’ are Gavron.
But some simple-minded people will always believe what they want to believe, and, of course, a lot of people don’t want to believe that we’re heading for a catastrophe.
It’s plain wishful thinking.
@Al
Right on. The next time a Mt. St. Helena erupts, the tree huggers will all congregate for a mother-of-all circle jerk, then kill themselves, thus saving the environment’s ozone layer from their gas bag bullshit.
“Fug ’em!”
If enviro-activists actually cared about the environment they would all be organizing in support of nuclear power plants. The latest versions don’t even create waste (not that it ever harmed anyone). The fact that they’re not supporting nuclear energy proves they’re full of cr*p.
Just my 2 cents…
MW: earth (really!)
Actually, I think of environmentalists as being pro-capitalism. The entire world is looking for solutions to global warming (real or not), so this is as time for America
to lead. Spend the billions upon billions in R&D;so that American companies own and control the patents on environmentally-friendly technology and can charge the
rest of the world. Just as we grew from the space race and military, we can grow from this. Besides, improving energy efficiency will save business in America billions a year in costs while saving consumers’ money so they have more to spend to grow the economy. Meanwhile, we dump less money into American and Canadian oil companies’ pockets (who only spend money to get more oil and keep most parts of their spending to society flat) and to the rabid anti-western regimes and terrorists overseas.
Actually it would be an honor to provide stewardship for this planet. It is a cosmic embarrassment to destroy ourselves by soiling this incredible gift we have been given. When we poison the planet, we poison ourselves. There is no difference.
Can we prosper and serve as stewards? Of course, it is simply a matter of priorities, and vision. Right action would follow.
Of course, since we human beings act as if we were completely disconnected from our very roots, we behave like raving maniacs.
Self Destruction appears to be part of the human condition… perhaps its time to rise above the selfishness.
Muffin Man and Gavron…. baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Whilst I have posted why ClimateCounts(and their ilk) are wrong and why in an earlier thread, some of the ‘head in the sand’ Limbaugh-inspired crap on this article illustrates why America needs to take the teaching of science more seriously and the teaching of religious fairy-tales less seriously.
BTW, ron, you’re an idiot who needs to go and learn about the concepts of global warming and climate change: you also need to go and learn about scientific peer-reviews.
If any of the troglodyte climate-change deniers actually believe that the world’s climatologists have more of a vested interest in talking up climate change than the world’s energy companies have in talking it down, they really need to seek professional medical care: every quarter, the world’s oil companies make more in profit than the combined annual climatology budgets of the G20 economies. As an example, the functions of NOAA concerned with climatology have a budget for 2008 of around $1.4 billion, the profits of ExxonMobil for the first quarter of 2008 were over $10 billion.
Who has more to lose?
Last I checked, ACTUAL climatologists are NOT in agreement with your bs.
Nuclear waste never harmed anyone? An interesting suggestion! Are you offering to build your home on top of a pile of spent reactor fuel? And live there, with your spouse and off-spring? The government will be so grateful for that offer!
Climate Scientist, you were right in saying “Weather patterns change, they always have and always will. Most of the climatic factors are land-use issues. Putting 5 million people in a 300 square mile area will always cause problems,”, and wrong about most of the rest of it. Adding “trace gas into the atmosphere” would also be correct, were that what we have been doing. We can all name a dozen huge cities that are dumping huge amounts of gas and heat into the atmosphere – hardly trace amounts – so I disagree with your light dismissal of the human impact.
London. Roman era. Beige moths. Industrial age. Dark grey moths. This decade. Beige moths. Same species of moth, by the way. Just that London is no longer coated in coal soot!
We have had an unusually long period of stable climate. From the Little Ice Age till today, hundreds of years. We have prospered in those years. If the climate is to change, we ought not be the cause of it. There are enough dangers in this world for us to face without adding more. Of course, owning beach-front property in Alaska or New Brunswick could make you wealthy!
“The world has recovered from several astroid (sic) strikes”. Yes you humans, don’t you worry about climate change or asteroid strikes. You’ll recover from them, no problem.
Matt, almost forgot you! So easy to do. Go back and read what I wrote about GE. Do you think for a moment that windmill was not profitable for them? That they will not be able to generate billions in profit from what they learned while designing it? They are a big company. An old company. A company responsible for considerable environmental damage. Yet they are making a profit by cleaning up their act. THIS is “progress”. And “good business”. This is proof that the only choices are not “do as we have always done” and “go out of business”.
So … why is it the power companies are still building coal-fired plants and complaining about the cost of cleaning them up? Why not build wind or wave farms? No imagination! No innovation. They LIKE their Windows PCs!
Geez people , yes volcanoes spew out a lot of green house gases and would overshadow man-kinds annual output of green house gases, but her is the deal. The last time volcanoes caused record climate change that caused extinctions was during the Permian period. Back then extreme volcanic output blocked the sun causing plant life to fail and so herbivores suffered followed by carnivores alike. In the sea H2S a stinky pink liquid that is poisonous to oxygen breathing life forms accelerated the process as algae blooms died in the ocean and decay persisted consuming all of the oxygen for the fish in the sea.
While we don’t have the massive volcanic output of the Permian period we have de-forrested much of the land removing CO2 sinks from the landscape. Over fishing has not combined with fertilizer and sewage run-off has created similar conditions in the water (aka development of Ocean front and draining swamps for farm land). Anyone who thinks the current climate change conditions are not being accelerated by human actions on this planet are seriously naive or just plain stupid.