Microsoft Windows Vista developers used Apple Macs for inspiration

“I worked at Microsoft for about 7 years total, from 1994 to 1998, and from 2002 to 2006,” Moishe Lettvin, now a software engineer at Google, blogs. “The most frustrating year of those seven was the year I spent working on Windows Vista, which was called Longhorn at the time.”

“My team had a very talented UI designer and my particular feature had a good, headstrong program manager with strong ideas about user experience. We had a Mac that we looked to as a paragon of clean UI. Of course the Shell team also had some great UI designers and numerous good, headstrong PMs who valued (I can only assume) simplicity and so on. Perhaps they had a Mac too,” Lettvin writes.

Full article, “The Windows Shutdown crapfest,” here.

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27 Comments

  1. MDN & everyone else:

    It appears that the linked article has had the slashdot effect. The webmaster has replaced the article HTML with a 0 KB file. He must be worried about his bandwidth budget.

  2. I really want to suggest that you read the full article – it is very enlightening with regard to why it took over 5 years to (almost) release Vista. In addition some of the comments are really great – this one made me LOL :

    “Anonymous said…
    I know exactly where you are coming from on this. I work for a small UI design company that worked on Vista from 2002 until 2004. Microsoft wanted to avoid some of the problems that cropped up with XP and told us they were going to do Longhorn “right” this time. After years of slaving away to supposed exacting standards of UI elements, the project was pulled from us and (I assume) taken in-house. Perhaps it was outsourced to cheap labor…

    Now we see the result and I can tell you it is not pretty. UI elements look as though a child designed them. Inconsistencies are apparent everywhere. Elements from XP are STILL present in the OS and in some cases have been band-aided to fit Vista parameters instead of redesigned from scratch.

    Microsoft is in a heap of trouble and these two examples are good reasons why. They have no true focus on their products or how to design, develop and produce them to compete with the cutting edge. They have become bloated, slow and anything BUT agile. Its sad, but true.”

  3. After all that fragmented, dysfunctional, conflicting, and perplexing array of competing interests I’m actually impressed that Microsoft plans to release Vista after only 5 plus years of toil, strain, and institutionalized ineffectiveness. How curious that Vista in style, form, and function mimics the same hodgepodge organizational structure that exists at Microsoft. The rate of reaction cannot proceed faster than the slowest rate in the process. If the rates of reactions both oscillate and vary the complexity and randomness of the process increases exponentially. I challenge any kineticist to model this institutionalized catastrophe.

  4. I am surprised that Microsoft seems never to have heard of critical path analysis…

    Some things do not lend themselves well to parallel development. This shut down/sleep/hibernate menu should not even have been started until the Vista kernal was nailed down.

    Microsoft: never have so many been screwed by something so small and limp.

  5. Personally I think Vista suffers from info overload, too much info on the GUI, but then again I only ever see screenshots, have not used it yet.

    OSX’s interface IS pretty sweet, Vista SHOULD look at it for inspiration, and try to improve on or outdo it, well maybe next round.

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